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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Obalon Therapeutics Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Bill Plovanic, President and Chief Executive Officer for Obalon. Mr. Plovanic, you may begin, sir.

William Plovanic

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to Obalon Therapeutics Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. With me on today's call are Bob Macdonald, Chief Retail Officer, who is responsible for driving future site expansion for the Obalon Center for Weight Loss retail treatment center model, a function that's similar to a role he played with Sono Bello, the largest aesthetic surgery chain in the United States. Also on today's call is Nooshin Hussainy, our Chief Financial Officer. This morning, the company issued a press release detailing our financial results for the 3 months and year ended December 31, 2019. This release can be accessed through the Investor Relations section of the Obalon website at www.obalon.com, and you can also access the webcast of this call from there. Before we get started, I'd like to remind everyone that any statements made on today's conference call that express a belief, expectation, projection, forecast, anticipation or intent regarding future events and the company's future performance may be considered forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements in this release include Obalon's expectations regarding the near and long-term growth potential of its business, including our company-managed retail treatment centers. These forward-looking statements are based on information available to Obalon management as of today and involve risks and uncertainties, which include, but are not limited to, the risk factors disclosed in the periodic and current reports filed by the company with the SEC from time to time, including the Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2019. Such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as…

Nooshin Hussainy

Analyst

Thanks, Bill. Today, I would like to share details on our financial results for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2019. I will compare fourth quarter 2019 to third quarter 2019. As I believe sequential growth is what the majority of investors are most interested and given the pivot in our business model in the second quarter of 2019. I will then provide a comparison of full year 2019 versus 2018 financial results. Lastly, I will discuss our recently announced equity line with Lincoln Park Capital. Fourth quarter revenue was reported at $786,000 compared with $333,000 in the third quarter of 2019. Revenues in the fourth quarter of 2019 included the first full quarter of operations from the retail treatment center model, U.S. physician customer revenues and sales to our international distributors as compared to sales on ETU as physician customers in the third quarter of 2019. In the fourth quarter, we recognized approximately $140,000 in revenue from the new retail treatment center model, but collected cash of almost $350,000, which is reflected in cash from operations. As a reminder, net revenue from the treatment center model is recognized in line with the delivery of services, while for cash payment, for -- the treatment package is collected upfront, prior to the delivery of services. The majority of net revenue is recognized over the course of balloon placements during the first 3 months of treatment, with the balance expected to be recognized in future quarters. As a result, there's a lag between cash collection and recognized revenue. U.S. physician revenue was approximately $340,000 and sales to our international distributors contributed $300,000 to fourth quarter revenue, bringing total revenue in Q4 to $786,000. This compared to approximately $330,000 of sales only to U.S. physician customers in third quarter 2019. Cost…

William Plovanic

Analyst

I would now like to share our goals with you to provide a better understanding of how we measure the business internally. As for expansion plans for the number of Obalon-branded retail treatment centers, our current goal is to have between 5 and 8 sites operational by the end of this year. We currently have 2 sites operational and have a signed lease for an additional site, which we are targeting to have operational within the next 4 months. In terms of patient flow per core per center, our goal is an average of 15 to 30 new patients per month, after initial ramp-up period of a few months. The 15 to 30 average new patients sold per month at steady state is equivalent to the performance that was experienced at our top accounts, top sites, best month. For patient pricing, our current goal is to achieve average net revenue recognized per patient in a range of $5,000 to $6,000 over the term of the patient treatment, which is currently 12 months. As Nooshin noted in her comments, revenue from the treatment center model are recognized in line with delivery of services, while full payment for the treatment package is collected prior to delivery of services, creating a lag between new patient sales and recognized revenue. The fourth quarter 2019 was an important quarter for Obalon. It was the first full quarter of operation for our first company-managed retail treatment center, and initial results from that San Diego site continue to support our belief that we may be able to leverage our 2-plus years of commercial experience in the U.S. and create a service business model in a dedicated facility focused solely on a weight loss treatment program with the Obalon Balloon System. With the opening of the second location in Orange County, California this month, we believe the foundation has been laid for a standardized, repeatable retail treatment center model. We look forward to opening additional sites and improve access to care for an estimated 69 million adults with obesity in the United States that are candidates for treatment with the Obalon Balloon System. With that, our prepared comments are complete. Operator, will you please now open the line for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Kyle Rose with Canaccord.

Kyle Rose

Analyst

So I wanted to see if we can just get a little more information regarding the treatment centers. Particularly just the overall experience thus far. How are you seeing the patient conversion rates now that you control the whole, I guess, patient experience from the marketing to the actual delivery? Have you seen the improvements in the conversion rates that you were expecting? And then any insights just as far as what you've learned at the first center that are maybe going to change or improve potential productivity at centers 2, 3 and then eventually 5 to 8?

William Plovanic

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the question. In terms of the marketing, as we mentioned, we're taking the capabilities we had and leveraging those, including our marketing abilities in advertising and our call center to create that lead generation. And then we generate those leads that are the booked -- our call center transfers or converts into booked appointments at the call -- at the treatment center. So we're -- and then once they show up to the treatment centers, we -- then our salesperson has the opportunity to convert that person into a sole patient and somebody to go through treatment. So we are measuring and analyzing all the layers of that lead generation funnel, and have the ability and the granularity to go back all the way to the initial advertising that's utilized to drive that lead. So as we look at that from lead generation to reaching out to them, to booking the consults, to people that show up and then convert into a sale, we've been very pleased with that. We measure all that, analyze it and are looking to pull levers at which to improve different areas of that funnel. We have been very pleased in our meeting or exceeding our goals in several of those metrics and looking to optimize that at all-time -- throughout the process. In terms of the patient experience, and the learnings, we -- obviously, we got the first center up and going at the end of September, and then we took those learnings to apply it to the second center, and very encouraged by the initial results of the second test center in terms of not just from the marketing standpoint of turning that on and driving the leads and the conversion at that second center, but also from an operational standpoint. And I think from our standpoint, started out with a model, and we continue to execute on that model and are very, very encouraged and pleased with what those results are, I would say, very minor changes to what we're doing. Nothing significant that we have come across at this point.

Kyle Rose

Analyst

Okay. That's very helpful. And then this is the first quarter that you reengaged revenues from the international markets. Can you just maybe talk -- your goals are pretty clear in the United States. Help us understand how we should think about that OUS line on a go-forward basis? Was there -- was that an initial stocking order? And then we should expect it to pull back? Or is that kind of a consistent a steady-as-she-goes number that we should contemplate moving forward?

William Plovanic

Analyst

I think as you think of our international distributor, as I said, our primary focus is the Obalon Center for Weight Loss in the U.S. We do continue to provide the balloon systems to a few key physicians, high-volume in the U.S. and also our international distributor now in Qatar. This was a distributor that was very familiar with the Obalon Balloon System, and had been distributing it in that country and had a demand for us to continue to supply the new generation of product. I think as we think of that business, we've signed a 1-year agreement, it's a pretty straightforward agreement. I mean the revenue should be very similar on a quarter, but it may be a little less as each -- we go each quarter from the current one, but it won't be significantly different.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.

Ryan Zimmerman

Analyst · BTIG.

Great. So I want to just ask. I think I heard this correctly, but I apologize, Nooshin, you said of the total revenue, I think there was about $340,000 in physician revenue in kind of those high-volume accounts and $300,000 from your international distributor. So if we back that out and plus the revenue of that, that is still yet to be recognized, kind of where -- can you just help us understand where that puts the center at? And more so, the bigger question is, from a productivity standpoint, that I think would imply similar to some of the metrics you gave out, Bill, but how do you feel about the capacity of the centers today? And what you saw this quarter? And what it can ultimately translate to over time as you scale?

Nooshin Hussainy

Analyst · BTIG.

Okay. So do you mind to repeat the last part of the question for me because I didn't hear you clearly? I'm sorry about that.

Ryan Zimmerman

Analyst · BTIG.

Sure. So my question was just specifically the components of revenue. What does the in-center revenue look like when you net out the high-volume physician accounts? And as we think about that from a capacity standpoint, where can that go? Are you feeling -- just based on the metrics you provided, that -- it seems like that would be in line with kind of where you expect it to go, but do you have capacity for, say, much more patients over time in a given center?

William Plovanic

Analyst · BTIG.

Yes, Ryan, I'll answer the second part of the question to see if -- and then hand it over to Nooshin for the first part. But in the second part of the question, it's really -- you're asking a capacity question. And just the way to think about capacity is at this current time, we believe there's -- peak capacity is beyond our current monthly new patient goals that we provided. Remember, it's approximately 15 minutes for delivery of a balloon and our staffing model is variable with our -- with medical delivery, so we're able to titrate or optimize the staffing and the medical to meet demand. But we're currently not maximizing that -- the office hours, and we do have office hours -- are currently only 5 days a week, 8 hours a day basically. So we could be able to adjust that to support additional demand if needed. I think in terms of the revenue, you're asking, Nooshin had mentioned or stated the 100 -- about $140,000 was recognized, and we -- there is a lag between the revenue collected upfront and the net recognized revenue over time, because it's delivery services, and the cash flow from operations from that, recognized revenue, was approximately $350,000. So the net revenue would be collected over time as the delivery of services.

Ryan Zimmerman

Analyst · BTIG.

Okay. That's very helpful. And then the pricing -- when I think back to when you're selling, just say the balloons, direct to a physician, and what the end consumer pricing is, it was a little higher, and now you're doing patient pricing in that $5,000 to $6,000 range. What impact have you seen, if any, from that, as you think about kind of the right way to price it?

William Plovanic

Analyst · BTIG.

Yes. In terms of patient pricing, I mean, we've seen our physician customers hit on average price between $6,000 and $8,000 or $6,000 to $9,000 with an average of about $8,000 across the U.S. Our more high-volume physician customers tended to price towards -- below the midpoint and towards the bottom end of that range. So when they were -- we said, our goals are to meet or exceed the volumes of what our high-volume customers were doing on a monthly basis at their best months, best sites. And so we're looking to drive that volume level. So that's what our goal is.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from Ben Haynor with Alliance Global Partners.

Benjamin Haynor

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

It looks -- sorry, I saw in a couple of calls here. But it looks to me like you've shared a couple of different marketing strategies in terms of offering rebates for a certain amount of weight loss and such to patients to attract people so far. Is there anything that you've learned or anything that you can share on that? And do you feel like you have something that's kind of locked in now that it would be hard to do better than that then? Or anything you can share on that front?

William Plovanic

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

Yes. Thanks, Ben. We -- remember, when we -- our physician customers, we had -- there were different promotional programs, and our physician customers would utilize that we were providing outlines for as they were driving patient flow into their physician practices. We've leveraged several -- those learnings into the programs we're doing now. There have been different incentive programs available since September. The overall intent of these programs is to drive that patient interest in conversion, and we're looking at different points in the lead to treatment conversion funnel and looking to optimize. So we continue to take those learnings from the different programs that are run and leverage those learnings into the next program.

Benjamin Haynor

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

Okay. And then just looking at where the 2 centers that you've opened now are located, is that kind of what we should just expect in the future in terms of as you branch out kind of in terms of population centers? Or is that -- is there anything you can share on that front?

Robert Macdonald

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

Yes. Thank you for the question. So our growth strategy is predicated on the fact that approximately 1/3 of the U.S. population is between a 30 and 40 BMI. So there's a huge market out there. Obviously, being located in San Diego, we thought it made sense to open our first center here locally and then, as Bill had mentioned, we have a second center now open in Orange County. So as we spread out, we want to balance the need not to travel too far, along with addressing those large markets where most of the people are. So we're very optimistic that there is a big -- a huge opportunity out there, and we'll proceed accordingly.

Benjamin Haynor

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

So it's kind of like the In-N-Out Burger model, not yet too far from [indiscernible]

Robert Macdonald

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

You could phrase it that way, yes.

William Plovanic

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

And I think, Ben, as you look at it, there's a lot of examples out there. You can look -- take a top down approach, a bottoms-up approach. But we look at the different geographies, the population income and then several other different layers that we filter through it. We analyze that data. We've looked at similar players in this space as well. You can look at where our clear choice is of bodily hair restoration at Sono Bello, and just gives you an idea. But looking at it at this point, we're still -- believe that the NFL City strategy is really the way to go. Given the prevalence of obesity in our -- at the target market that we're indicated for, it's really looking at those larger city populations that you can move into.

Robert Macdonald

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

And I think the other thing, Ben, is leveraging the physician corporation we have in place in all the assets we have put together for the first site makes a lot of sense as well.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have no questions in queue. Do you have any closing remarks?

William Plovanic

Analyst

I'd just like to thank everybody for joining the call today, and we look forward to our next call. Thank you very much. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.