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Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. (HE)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 7, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to HEI Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Mateo Garcia, Director of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.

Mateo Garcia

Analyst

Welcome, everyone, to HEI's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Joining me today are Scott Seu, HEI President and CEO; Scott DeGhetto, HEI Executive Vice President and CFO; Shelee Kimura, Hawaiian Electric President and CEO; and other members of senior management. Our earnings release and our presentation for this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. As a reminder, forward-looking statements will be made on today's call. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations can be found in our presentation, our SEC filings and in the Investor Relations section of our website. Today's presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures, including those referred to as core items. You should refer to the information contained in the slides accompanying today's presentation for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP financial measure. We will take questions from institutional investors at the end of this call. Individual investors and others can reach out to Investor Relations. Now Scott Seu will begin with his remarks.

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Aloha kakou! Welcome, everyone. For today's call, I'll start with an update on our continued progress on initiatives to improve our company's financial strength and resilience. I'll also touch on the ongoing implementation of our wildfire safety strategy and update you on the tort litigation settlement. Scott DeGhetto will walk through our financial results, and then we'll open it up for questions. In the third quarter, we continued to take actions to ensure that we're best positioned to serve the communities in which we operate for the long term. We had a successful quarter progressing the initiatives we've talked about for much of the last 2 years, implementing wildfire safety improvements, advancing the Maui wildfire tort litigation toward final court approval and laying the groundwork for a successful second multiyear rate period under our performance-based regulation, or PBR framework. We also improved our liquidity and financial flexibility through a successful debt issuance and the upsize and extension of our revolving credit facilities, which Scott DeGhetto will discuss. In February, and as we had requested, the PUC issued an order establishing that Hawaiian Electric's target revenues should be rebased ahead of the second PBR multiyear rate period set to begin on January 1, 2027, and that a general rate case type proceeding is the most efficient means for doing so. In August, we requested PUC approval to pursue an alternative non-rate case process to rebase rates. The innovative process would involve collaboration with the existing PBR working group parties to develop a rebasing proposal for the PUC's review and approval, and it would avoid the time, cost and resource burden typically required for a formal rate case proceeding. If successful, the process could result in rebased rates before the next multiyear rate period begins. We also made this proposal in recognition…

Scott Deghetto

Analyst

Thank you, Scott. I'll start with our financial results for the quarter on Slide 6. In the third quarter, we generated net income of $30.7 million or $0.18 per share. Quarter's results include $4.5 million of pretax Maui wildfire-related expenses net of insurance recoveries and deferrals. Approximately $3.6 million of these expenses was recorded at the utility. Excluding these items, which we refer to as non-core, consolidated core net income was $32.8 million for the quarter or $0.19 per share. This compares to core income from continuing operations of $32.7 million or $0.29 per share in the third quarter of 2024. Utility core net income for the quarter was $39.6 million compared to $43.7 million in the third quarter of 2024. The decrease was driven by lower tax benefits from R&D tax credits, higher legal and consulting costs, which were deferred in 2024 and higher wildfire mitigation program expenses. Holding company core net loss was $6.8 million compared to $10.9 million in the third quarter of 2024. The lower core net loss was driven by lower interest expense due to the lower debt balance following the April debt retirement and higher interest income from holding company cash being held on the balance sheet primarily to make the first settlement payment. Turning to the next slide, I'll provide a few key updates on our liquidity and settlement financing plans. As of the end of the third quarter, the holding company and the utility had approximately $40 million and $504 million of unrestricted cash on hand, respectively. In addition, the holding company has approximately $519 million in combined liquidity available under its ATM program and credit facility capacity. The utility also has approximately $544 million of liquidity available under its accounts receivable facility and credit facility capacity. In September, we completed a…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies.

Jamieson Ward

Analyst

It's James Ward on actually for Julien. How should we think about the revenue requirement and timing under the alternative rebasing filing, the Gen 7 filing? What are the key elements that you're looking to align with the PBR Phase 6 modifications and so on? So just that revenue requirement and timing.

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Well, let me address the timing first, and then I'll perhaps ask either Scott or one of our utility team to comment on some of our goals for the rebasing process. So as I mentioned, we are now -- we requested the PUC approval to enter into this alternate rebasing process. So the discussions with the PBR parties are underway. The proposal for rebasing is due to the PUC on January 7, 2026. And should that be successful, then we would go from there. If the proposal is not successful, then at that point, later on in the year, we would consider filing for a 2027 test year rate case. So that's just a high level in terms of what the timing is. And maybe I can defer to perhaps Joe Viola, who is our Senior Vice President at Hawaiian Electric Company, Head of Overseeing Regulatory Affairs.

Joe Viola

Analyst

James, again, yes, Joe Viola here. In terms of what we're shooting for, for the rebasing process, really the way I think to think about that is we're setting a new starting point for the second multiyear rate plan. So we want to put ourselves in a position that we have new target revenues that would allow us with efficient performance to begin to earn our authorized ROE. At the same time, we'll be developing potential changes to the next multiyear rate plan, we call that MRP2, scheduled currently to begin in 2027. So working on setting a new starting point and then at the same time, have changes to the PBR framework that can make it successful during MRP2.

Jamieson Ward

Analyst

Very much appreciated. Given that utility dividends have resumed, albeit in a small amount, but what's the sustainable cadence of utility to holdco dividends through the settlement years? And what are the gating criteria?

Scott Deghetto

Analyst

So it's Scott DeGhetto. So what we have been doing, and I think you're aware of this, is the utility dividend to the holding company, at least over the past year or 2 has been set based on what the needs are up at the holding company. I don't see that changing for the foreseeable future.

Jamieson Ward

Analyst

Got you. Okay. Just checking. That's very helpful. And the last one for me. really appreciate the CapEx guidance, which you obviously mentioned was a goal for you guys on the Q2 call. So well done, and thank you for that. As we look forward, how do you think about earnings guidance and ultimately, of course, EPS, which will have to include the financing element there. Could we see EPS guidance in the Q4 call? Or is that not something we should put expectations on?

Scott Deghetto

Analyst

So too soon to say. Again, we really have been looking at reinstituting earnings guidance, but we really don't want to do that until we get through the final settlement approval process and put that behind us. And so there's a possibility that it could be at that particular point, but I wouldn't count on it. It just all depends on when the final settlement will be approved, and then we'll take a look at how the business is performing on a steady-state basis and get back to you. Now keep in mind, going into the rate rebasing process, right, it's going to be hard for us to give guidance. We might be able to do it for a few quarters. But again, going into that process, we won't know the outcome of that process. And so what we don't want to do is give you guys guidance and then have to go back on that guidance or change it dramatically.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nicholas Campanella with Barclays.

Michael Brown

Analyst · Barclays.

This is Michael Brown on for Nicholas Campanella. Can you provide an update on the sale of the remaining portion of the bank?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst · Barclays.

You're talking about the remaining or 9.9% ownership on American Savings?

Michael Brown

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes.

Scott Deghetto

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes. So we're always looking at what's going on in the market. And as we've said on previous calls, we do intend to monetize that stake. We haven't really given a time frame on it. I would say certainly -- I wouldn't say certainly, but probably in the next 6 months or so, we probably look again pretty hard at that and see what it looks like. But we're not committing to a specific time line at this point.

Michael Brown

Analyst · Barclays.

Next question for me. What are the expectations of the commission's report on the wildfire fund going into the new legislative window?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes. So the Public Utilities Commission, they have been working on the study that is due to be submitted to the Hawaii State Legislature 20 days before the next legislative session starts. So that is on track. They have been working on information gathering, collecting stakeholder input. And they are -- as far as we know, they are on track to submit that report.

Michael Brown

Analyst · Barclays.

With the report, do you anticipate movement in 2026 on any key legislation?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst · Barclays.

It's -- I don't want to get ahead of the PUC. I'm not quite sure what will be in that report and whether they will recommend that legislation is needed next year. So too soon to say.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Scott Seu for closing remarks.

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

I just want to thank all of our shareholders, and a lot of our shareholders are our neighbors here in Hawaii. So again, thank you, Mahalo, for your continued investment in HEI. We're also very thankful to those of you who supported our successful debt issuance in September. Again, we just really greatly appreciate your support as we continue to help our communities move forward to a sustainable future. So thank you. Mahalo, everybody.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.