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Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. (HE)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 10, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Audra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 2024 Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mateo Garcia, Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Mateo Garcia

Analyst

Thank you. Welcome, everyone, to HEI's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. Joining me today are Scott Seu, HEI President and CEO; Scott DeGhetto, HEI Executive Vice President, CFO and Treasurer; Shelee Kimura, Hawaiian Electric President and CEO; and Ann Teranishi, American Savings Bank President and CEO; and other members of senior management. Our earnings release and our presentation for this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. As a reminder, forward-looking statements will be made on today's call. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations can be found in our presentation, our SEC filings and in the Investor Relations section of our website. Today's presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the information contained in the slides accompanying today's presentation for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP financial measure. Now Scott Seu will begin with his remarks.

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Aloha kakou. Welcome, everyone. For today's call, I'll start with key updates regarding the Maui wildfires and the proposed settlement announced last week. I'll then touch on operational progress we've made at the utility in our ongoing efforts to mitigate risk and enhance reliability. And finally, I'll discuss American Savings Bank's results and comment briefly on HEI's review of strategic options for ASB. I'll then turn it over to Scott DeGhetto, who will walk through our second quarter financial results in more detail and discuss the financial implications of recent announcements before we open it up for questions. Yesterday marked 1 year since the wildfires on Maui forever altered the lives of so many of Mauis and Hawaii's residents. We know that for many, the pain of loss is as fresh today as it was over a year ago. Our hearts remain with our friends, families, neighbors and employees, we suffered so much in the wake of last year's wildfires. It's been heartening for all of us here in Hawaii to see the many ways our community has come together to support the people of Lahaina and Upcountry Maui and to help chart a pathway forward. Last week, we saw an important milestone in those efforts. Following 4 months of mediation efforts, HEI, Hawaiian Electric and other parties reached a settlement agreement in principle to offer those who suffered loss an accelerated path to recovery. I'm thankful for the governor's leadership in helping to expedite the agreement and keeping all of us focused on working together to do what is best for Maui and Hawaii. For HEI, the settlement provides a clearer line of sight toward resolution of the wildfire-related tort litigation and increased certainty for our company's path ahead. Under the terms of the proposed settlement, the defendants have…

Scott Deghetto

Analyst

Thank you, Scott. I'll start with our results for the quarter on Slide 6. For the second quarter, we recorded a consolidated net loss of $1.3 billion or $11.74 per share. As Scott mentioned, the quarter's results included 2 significant onetime losses. First, at the utility, we recorded a $1.71 billion loss or $1.27 billion after taxes due to the accrual of estimated wildfire liabilities from tort-related claims as a result of the proposed settlement announced last week. Including the loss accrual, utility net loss for the quarter was $1.23 billion. The $1.71 billion loss accrued at the utility is lower than the $1.99 billion we have agreed to under the proposed settlement for two reasons. First, the $1.99 billion includes the $75 million One 'Ohana contribution that was accrued in 2023. Second, the settlement amount is spread over 4 equal annual installments and the loss recorded is our best estimate of an equivalent lump sum amount. Second, we also recorded an $82.2 million goodwill impairment for $66.1 million after taxes at ASB in connection with HEI's ongoing review of strategic options. The goodwill was related to acquisitions that took place in the 1980s and 1990s. The impairment is noncash and has no impact on ASB's liquidity. In addition to the $1.71 billion tort-related accrual, there were $2.8 million of pretax wildfire-related expenses net of insurance recoveries and deferrals recorded at the utility in the second quarter. Bank wildfire-related pretax expenses were $500,000 and holding company wildfire-related pretax expenses were $6.5 million. Excluding these expenses, consolidated core net income and EPS were $49.1 million and $0.44 per share compared to $54.6 million and $0.50 per share in the second quarter of 2023. Utility core net income was $43.9 million compared to $45.3 million in the same quarter last year. Bank…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Michael Lonegan at Evercore ISI.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst

So the plaintiffs and defendants agreed to settle the wildfire cases without the insurance companies who are looking for a significant amount. Just wondering what gives you confidence the settlement will ultimately be finalized under the terms of the deal where the plaintiffs still need to reach an agreement with the insurers or obtain the court order borrowing them from recovering outside the settlement?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Mike, this is Scott Seu. The settlement really does represent a very important move forward in that it does lay out the most significant terms to settle the claims, the tort claims. It's recognized that at this stage, yes, the subrogation plaintiffs still have not agreed to the allocation of the total amount of money that would be provided by the defendants. But very importantly, it allows 90 days for those discussions between the individual plaintiffs, lawyers and the subrogation plaintiffs to work that out or in the alternative for the court to actually issue an order, which helps to resolve the issue. So I think it's very important that, again, it brings clarity for everybody, and then it provides a pretty, pretty well-defined process ahead of us to resolve that issue.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst

Great. And then secondly for me, you laid out a mix of financing options that you could use to pay for the settlement. Do you have a level of capital spending in mind over this 4-year period and an FFO to debt target over that time frame?

Paul Ito

Analyst

So Mike, this is Paul. So we're currently working on our long-term capital plans. And obviously, a lot depends on what happens or the timing of the settlement agreement. Clearly, we feel good about getting to a settlement. And based on that having access to the capital markets more broadly for a lot of the growth investments that we foresee in the future, things like our Waiau generation project and of course, our increased wildfire mitigation type spend. We are targeting investment-grade credit metrics over the long term. That's critical and important for us because it also translates into lower customer bills. So we're very focused on that.

Scott Deghetto

Analyst

Yes. Mike, this is Scott DeGhetto. On the broader kind of financing of the settlement, what I would say is we're working closely with our financial advisers to develop a financing plan for our settlement contribution. Keep in mind that the settlement was just agreed to a week ago. And we don't expect payments to begin until mid-2025, at the earliest. So we believe that gives us sufficient time to develop and finalize that plan. And then as far as the FFO to debt goes, what I would say is we're in constant communication with the rating agencies just in terms of discussing where we are and where we'd like to be over time.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst

Great. And then lastly for me. So on your financing plan, you talked about a mix of debt, common equity, equity-linked securities and then broadly speaking, you mentioned other potential options. So you've already disclosed strategic alternatives potentially for American Savings Bank. I'm just wondering, is it fair to say all options are on the table, including maybe selling a stake in the utility or a smaller scale sale like Pacific Current? Or just in general, is there any more color you can provide about the other potential options you mentioned?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Yes. We're not going to get into specifics about the other potential options. From my perspective, we wanted to keep it as broad as possible. I mean there's the regular way debt equity-linked that you mentioned. But there's a lot of other different financing mechanisms available in the marketplace that we want to make sure we take a look at.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Jonathan Reeder at Wells Fargo.

Jonathan Reeder

Analyst

First off, as a nonlegal expert, can you just please explain how Judge Cahill's court, I guess, could force the insurers into accepting the settlement and waiving their ability to pursue the subrogation claims against the defendants?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Sure, Jonathan. And again, Keep in mind, I am also a non-lawyer. So what's in play right now is you have individual plaintiffs who -- let's see what was the actual date. I think it was -- anyway, just a few weeks ago, they actually filed an Judge Cahill's court a motion, which challenges the subrogation plaintiff's ability to independently see claims. So that is one of the ongoing efforts by the individual plaintiffs. Judge Cahill has agreed to hold a hearing on August 13, in which he will really look at the issue of whether or not individual plaintiffs -- I'm sorry, subrogation plaintiffs are required to work through individual plaintiffs' settlement amounts as opposed to themselves in parallel coming against the defendants. So the August 13 hearing is just that. It's a hearing. We don't have any particular sense of how long it will take for the judge to rule on this issue. We're hopeful that it will be resolved fairly quickly, which would allow more clarity to be brought to the overall settlement agreement.

Jonathan Reeder

Analyst

Okay. So I mean, again, this is my nonlegal understanding, but if he requires the insurance companies to work through the individual plaintiffs and settlement agreements, isn't that kind of putting a substantial financial and legal burden back on the victims after reaching this settlement and really not allowing them to move forward if the insurance companies can essentially go after these individual plaintiffs to try to recoup the $2.3 billion or whatever that they paid out so far?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Yes. I mean, in effect, what the individual plaintiffs' lawyers are arguing is that in effect, it does result between having to resolve the issues between the individual plaintiffs and the insurance companies. So you're correct.

Jonathan Reeder

Analyst

Okay. Yes. No, it just doesn't seem like an ideal outcome either. So like what happens exactly after 90 days, assuming the court doesn't come to this agreement and if the victims have not -- or sorry, if the insurers and the victims haven't resolved their dispute, what happens after 90 days? Is it just the settlement kind of dissolves and then those court cases would kind of resume that are currently suspended?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Well, so the term sheet does require as a condition precedent that, again, within this 90 days, either there is an agreement that's reached between the individual plaintiffs and the subrogation plaintiffs or you receive a court decision that resolves the issue. If the 90 days comes and goes without either of these occurring, then it's fair to say all the parties would assess/reassess what the right steps forward are at that point. But I can't speculate on what that would be.

Jonathan Reeder

Analyst

Okay. And then, I guess, just another one for me, if you don't mind. With the global settlement, I mean, it seems like it's really within reach and defendants seemingly are highly motivated to reach the settlement getting finalized. It would seem like the one way to get there might be to increase the total size of the settlement above the $4.04 billion to hopefully get the insurers on board, but not at the expense of the victims. How would you describe the prospects and willingness of the defendants to this?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Well, I can't speak for the other defendants, Jonathan, but I can say that I think we believe that the -- what's reflected in the current term sheet is a fair outcome and really, the issue is between the subrogation plaintiffs and the individual plaintiffs. We feel that, again, we are hopeful, I am cautiously optimistic that it will be able to be worked out.

Jonathan Reeder

Analyst

Okay. Like I know in the term sheet kind of said that the amount kind of represents the maximum amount that I guess the parties could kind of handle. Is that true for all of them? Or is it based on, I guess, the mediators' also like assigned responsibility or liability?

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

Yes. Again, I can't comment on what the capacity is of all the different defendants. This was an overall amount and the allocated amounts were developed through the mediation process. The mediators considered any number of factors, which, again, I can't really speculate on.

Jonathan Reeder

Analyst

Good luck with the difficult situation.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Scott Seu for closing remarks.

Scott W. Seu

Analyst

So thank you all for calling in today. So in closing, I want to first acknowledge again the significance of the 1-year anniversary of the Maui wildfires. The perseverance and resilience and togetherness of the Lahaina and Kula communities really shown through all of yesterday's remembrance events. I also want to acknowledge our shareholders, a great -- many of whom are our neighbors here, for your continued investment in HEI, we've made significant progress towards rebuilding the strength of our company and the service of the people of Hawaii. We truly do recognize that service to our people, our communities and our customers. We feel that this settlement agreement represents significant progress. It's a very large accomplishment as it brings certainty and creates a path forward for us. We do not intend to raise rates to pay for the settlement amounts. And we believe that we will be ultimately successful in meeting the needs. So again, we greatly appreciate your support and we'll continue to help our communities move forward to a sustainable future. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.