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The Home Depot, Inc. (HD)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 16, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to The Home Depot Q2 '16 Earnings Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Ms. Diane Dayhoff, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Diane Dayhoff

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

Thank you, Shirlone, and good morning to everyone. Joining us on our call today are Craig Menear, Chairman, CEO and President; Ted Decker, EVP of Merchandising; and Carol Tomé, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President Corporate Services. Following our prepared remarks, the call will be open for analyst questions. Questions will be limited to analysts and investors, and as a reminder we'd appreciate it if the participants would limit themselves to one question with one follow-up please. If we are unable to get to your question during the call, please call our Investor Relations department at 770-384-2387. Now before I turn the call over to Craig, let me remind you that today’s press release and the presentations made by our executives include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations and projections. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to the factors identified in the release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Today’s presentations may also include certain non-GAAP measures. Reconciliation of these measures is provided on our Web site. Now, let me turn the call over to Craig.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Diane, and good morning everyone. We had a solid quarter achieving a milestone of the highest quarterly sales and earnings results in Company history. Sales for the second quarter were $26.5 billion, up 6.6% from last year. Comp sales were up 4.7% from last year and our U.S stores had a positive comp of 5.4%. Diluted earnings per share were $1.97 in the second quarter, up 13.9% versus last year. In the U.S., all three of our divisions posted positive comps in the second quarter led by our Western division. In all 19 U.S regions and top 40 markets saw single to double-digit comps in the quarter. Internationally, our Mexican and Canadian businesses had another quarter of solid performance. Mexico reported positive double-digit comps in local currency making it 51 consecutive quarters of positive comp growth. Our Canadian business also posted positive comps in local currency for a total of 19 consecutive quarters of positive comp growth. We continue to see broad-based growth across our stores both ticket and transactions grew. All of our merchandising departments posted positive comps and we saw a healthy balance of growth among both our Pro and DIY categories with Pro sales outpacing our DIY business in the U.S. The Interline integration is progressing as we continue to deliver on the acquisitions of value drivers. We’ve been piloting our first business use case offering Interline's catalog of products to Pros shopping Home Depot stores. We are pleased with the traction that we've seen in this pilot although it is still early days. We continue to work towards leveraging Interline's capabilities to expand our share of wallet with our current customers, as well as gain new customers. Our online business had sales growth of approximately 19% versus last year and represented 5.6% of total…

Ted Decker

Analyst

Thanks, Craig, and good morning everyone. We were pleased with our results in the second quarter. Core maintenance and repair categories, as well as many Pro heavy categories continue to have solid performance in the quarter. Our growth in the quarter was balanced. Total comp transactions grew by 2.2% for the quarter, while comp average ticket increased 2.5%. Ticket growth was driven by an increase in items per basket as project business continued to show strength. Our average ticket was also positively impacted from slight commodity price inflation, mainly from building materials and lumber. The total impact to ticket growth from commodity price inflation was approximately 18 basis points. In addition, the stronger U.S dollar had a negative impact to our average ticket growth with approximately 69 basis points. Focusing on big ticket sales in the second quarter, transactions for tickets over $900 representing approximately 20% of our U.S sales were up 8.1%. The drivers behind the increasing big ticket purchases for HVAC, appliances, and roofing. All merchandising departments posted positive comps led by appliances, which had double-digit comps in the quarter. Tools, lumber, plumbing, décor, indoor garden, building materials, and lighting were above the Company's average comp. Hardware, outdoor garden, kitchen, bath, millwork, electrical, paint and flooring were positive, but below the Company average. As Craig mentioned, we continue to see notable strength with our Pro customers. Pro sales grew faster than the Company comp, led by our high spend Pro customers. This continued strength led to comps above the Company average in commercial, industrial lighting, fencing, power tools, power tool accessories, wiring devices and interior doors. We saw continued strength in the core of the store, as our customers undertook various projects. For example, landscape lighting, laminate, and vinyl flooring, garage organizations and cleaning had strong comps for…

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you, Ted, and hello, everyone. Before I review our results, I’d like to remind you that our net earnings for the second quarter of 2015 included a pre-tax net expense of $92 million related to our 2014 data breach and a $144 million pre-tax gain on sale of HD supply common stock. When added together these two items contributed $0.02 of diluted earnings per share last year that did not repeat this year. So with that, let’s get started. In the second quarter, sales were $26.5 billion, a 6.6% increase from last year driven primarily by positive comp sales, as well as the impact of Interline brand versus last year a stronger U.S dollar negatively impacted total sales growth by approximately $181 million or 0.7%. Our total Company comp store same-store sales were positive 4.7% for the quarter with positive comps of 2.3% in May, 7.5% in June and 4.5% in July. Comps for U.S stores were positive 5.4% for the quarter with positive comps of 3% in May, 8.4% in June and 5% in July. Our monthly comp sales were a bit distorted by the timing of Memorial Day. Last year Memorial Day sales were included in our May results and this year they were included in our June results. Adjusting for this timing shift, our U.S comps would have been 4.3% in May, 7% in June, and 5% in July. Our total Company gross margin was 33.7% for the quarter, an increase of 3 basis points from last year. The change in our gross margin is explained largely by the following factors. First, as expected, we had 22 basis points of gross margin contraction due to the impact of Interline. Second, we had 13 basis points of gross margin expansion in our supply chain driven primarily by…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will have our first question from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley.

Simeon Gutman

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thanks. Good morning. There was a lot of noise it sounds like in the early part of the quarter with weather and some Memorial Day shift. Do you -- was there any, I don’t know if it's possible to measure this, but do you think there was some degree of demand destruction that you didn’t pick up, granted June, July improved. But I’m trying to get a sense if you think underlying demand could actually be stronger than it looks?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I think, there is no doubt to your point that May result was a tough start. When you look at variability in the quarter month-to-month compared to a year-ago, we had higher variability and part of that was clearly driven by weather. An example would be in Washington DC alone there were 20 days of rain in the month of May. So it's hard to tell, but clearly we know there was an impact.

Simeon Gutman

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay. And then, my follow-up, I mean there is a lot of noise in retail across many segments. You mentioned that the housing or housing outlook is fine. I know this seems obvious, but can you maybe just talk about what gives you confidence in it? Is it the Pro growth, is it the type of projects, I’m sure it's all the above, but I would love to hear just some color on that topic?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

So clearly when we look at housing, things that we focus on our own value appreciation which continues to grow, we look at housing turnover which is kind of running that norms, a little north of 4% of the housing stock is projected to turn in fiscal 2016. And then we look at new household formations and all of those are drivers in our business and all those continue to recover.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

But I'd say what gives us confidence is strengthen the big ticket as Ted called out another outstanding quarter in our big ticket categories. As Ted also called out, the growth in the quarter was balanced between ticket and transactions and part of the ticket growth was item in the basket growth. And that tells us that the project business is alive and well. And then finally we look at the strength in Pro and our Pro business outpaced our DIY business. So when you couple just the trends that we see in our existing business coupled with what we see in housing, it gives us confidence for the back half of the year.

Simeon Gutman

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We will go next to Kate McShane, Citi Research.

Kate McShane

Analyst

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. This might sound a little nitpicky, so I apologize, but I just had noticed in your prepared comments that you had mentioned that kitchen specifically was below the Company average comp. And I was just trying to reconcile the strength that you saw in Pro during the quarter versus some of this merchandise commentary and what you are seeing more specifically in terms of what is driving that Pro business in Q2?

Ted Decker

Analyst

Well, our overall kitchen business did comp positively. The special order kitchens are not as much of a Pro category. The take with kitchens, our in stock kitchen business is more the Pro business and that in fact was a stronger comp than the special order.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

You’d expect to see some seasonality in our kitchen business. People are on vacation during the summer time, putting a new kitchen into your home isn't really top of your mind. We expect the kitchen business to come back in the fall time, because it typically does.

Kate McShane

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will go next to John Baugh, Stifel.

John Baugh

Analyst

Thank you. Congratulations on a strong quarter. I was just curious on payables which were quite strong. You mentioned timing. If you could just talk about the sustainability of that number in the second half and whether your free cash flow assumptions have changed at all for the year? Thank you.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Hey, John. The payables performance at the end of the third quarter was a reflection of increased purchases. Craig commented in his remarks that we had some learnings during the quarter and one of those learnings was actually we had an error in our order logic that we use for inventory purchases. And so we corrected that error and have corrected it and actually sent purchases to our suppliers, so that is just the timing matter. It will normalize itself by the end of the year. So this isn't a consistent trend.

John Baugh

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes.

Operator

Operator

We will go next to Christopher Horvers with JPMorgan.

Christopher Horvers

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning.

Ted Decker

Analyst

Good morning.

Christopher Horvers

Analyst

I wanted to talk about inventories a little bit. We’ve heard a number of vendors talk about inventory destocking at retail, orders down in the second quarter. Is that process largely behind The Home Depot? Does it in any way reflect a less robust outlook for the market? And I know, Craig, you mentioned learnings and process improvement around inventory management and freight handling. Did that have any impact in terms of what we heard from the vendor community?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Hey Chris, as Carol just mentioned, one of the learnings this quarter was in fact that we did have an error in an update logic that we put into our replenishment. We identified that, corrected it, and that clearly did have an impact on the order flow that happened during the quarter that has been corrected moving forward.

Christopher Horvers

Analyst

Okay. And just thinking about the weather and thinking about the first half in the upcoming fourth quarter, in retrospect now that you are further along, could you reassess the amount of pull forward and the bathtub effect between the first quarter and the second quarter? And as you think about lapping this upcoming fourth quarter, I think a lot of investors are talking about, hey, you know, The Home Depot really benefited from a warm winter. What’s your thoughts on that and do you think the fourth quarter in effect pulled forward demand from the first half of this year?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. It's really, really hard to gauge that. Clearly as we called out in the first quarter, we felt that there was some pull forward. It's really hard to know exactly how much that happens. Who knows what they -- whether in the upcoming fourth quarter will be, but we’ll try to stay focused on driving the business.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

And we know we had a large comp in the fourth quarter of last year that we have to comp on top of and we plan for that. We’ll have a great holiday that, that we’ll talk to you about next quarter.

Christopher Horvers

Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Next Scott Mushkin, Wolfe Research.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I’ve got three kind of quick ones.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

I think the first one is, the 60 day terms, I think that you guys brought forward I think was in the last year beginning of this year for the Pro sales. Any quantification on what you think that's doing to your Pro sales, as you look at, I know you’ve talked about strength there.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Right. So as we look at sales on our private label card particularly our commercial private label card, we’re really pleased with the results. Sales are up year-on-year, ahead of our expectations. Our new accounts are up double digit ahead of our expectations. So it's still early days, we’re only six months into the program. But we’re very pleased with what we’re seeing. Now if I could zoom out a little bit and talk about our private label program in total, we actually saw a decline in penetration year-on-year of about 30 basis points, taking our penetration down to just under 23%. The decline was attributed to a decline in the consumer card. And when we peal back the layers of the onion to say, well what’s happening with the consumer card? We see a few things. Last year we had key promotional events that we did not repeat this year. So that impacted the penetration. And then we see increasing competition coming from bank cards. In fact I received one just at my home this week from Visa that's offering deferred financing. So there’s increased competition out there. And then finally and interestingly, we’re seeing a robust penetration increase in PIN-debit. PIN-debit up over a 100 basis points year-on-year is now the third largest form of tender inside of our Company. So the first largest is the bank card, the second largest is the private label card and the third largest is PIN-debit.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

Interesting. Thank you. That's good information. Did you -- have you guys looked at when we through election cycles, kind of what -- we’re obviously going to heat up the election cycle, and we’ve heard that at the high-end, some high-end consumers are postponing certain purchases because of the election cycle. Have you guys looked at your numbers, and how does that flow through the Home Depot as we go through the fall?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

To be totally honest with you, we’re focused on our customer. We don’t really pay a lot of attention to it. It's all about how do we take care of our customers every single day and make sure we’re driving volume for them every day.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

All right. Then my last, and this one is definitely a random question, but it's our second year of Prime Day. Do you guys feel Prime Day as Amazon does it? And then I'll yield. Thanks.

Ted Decker

Analyst

Interestingly on Prime Day there is so much activity in the market place. It draws a lot of shoppers online and our customers respond, and we have a good day dropping off Prime Day.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

All right. Perfect. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Budd Bugatch, Raymond James.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Good morning and congratulations on a solid quarter. I guess, my first question has to do with the Interline integration. Maybe talk a little bit more or give us a drilldown and give us some color, of A; what’s your doing, and B; maybe the impact on the economics of the company during the quarter?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

So, Budd, we’re again still working through the integration. We’re kind of ahead of the value drivers. We’ll likely see, but I’ll let, Bill comment on that. He’s here.

Bill Lennie

Analyst

Budd, we talked a little bit last call, but our customer intercepts and research that we’re doing in the prioritization of our used cases where it's based on really the customer feedback plus if you look at the market opportunity, and we have in pilot our first used case which is the ability to enable customers to shop Interlined assortments inside the Home Depot stores. We have a pilot of 20 stores. It's really early days, but our results are exceeding expectations or really three times expectation. So it's encouraging. It says that all of the assumptions there have the ability to increase Share of Wallet with the Pro, remain intact, and so look at -- and continue to focus on that. But again it is very, very early days.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

And in terms of the impact on the quarter, as we talked about our top-line growth exceeded our comp sales growth because of the impact on Interline. We called out the impact on our gross margin. It did have a dilutive impact on our gross margin, which we more than made up for with productivity and supply chain, and vendor co-op and rebate. And then it does add more variability and expenses. So, if you look at our expense growth factor for the quarter, backing out Interline it was a little higher than 60%, as we expected. As we now anniversary the Interline acquisition moving into the third quarter, our expense growth factor is going to come more in-line with what we expected. And in fact, our expenses are under such good control, we were under our expense plan for the second quarter. We’re taking our expense growth factor down from the year. At the beginning of the year we said it would be about 40% of our sales growth. We now think it's about 32% of our sales growth.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Okay. And my follow-up really has to do with appliances, a double-digit comp if I heard you correctly. Ted, how is that -- how sustainable is that? What’s causing that? Do you see that advance in the market itself?

Ted Decker

Analyst

Well, there’s clearly some share opportunity in the marketplace that we purposely positioned our self for, so we continue to invest in expanding our appliance showrooms with the larger showrooms, we can put more display pieces on the floor. It allowed us to get a much broader showing of Whirlpool’s offering as well as high-end brands like, KitchenAid. So we’re just a lot more relevant in this space with a better offering.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

And a double-digit comp in appliances meant 50 basis points of total comp growth for our Company.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Okay. And just quickly, just one follow-up, is Pro penetration, can you give us any comment on that as a percentage of sales?

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

It's hovering where it's always hovered around 40% of sales.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Right.

Budd Bugatch

Analyst

Thank you very much. Congratulations.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Michael Lasser, UBS.

Michael Lasser

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Craig, how long do you think that home improvement demand can remain decoupled from other elements of the economy, other elements of retail? I think, Carol, in her prepared remarks noted that some economic prognostications have been ratcheted down, but you’re keeping your forecast for same store sales in place. So, how long do you think that this can be kind of an oasis within the broader economy?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, I think when you look at a few factors. First of all there’s about 4.6 months of supply, average historical is about six months. So that certainly means there’s opportunity as you go forward, that's also helping to keep home value appreciation going. And there is projections in the market out there from various sources that would say home value appreciation continues for the next couple of years for sure. And so, I think this is a tailwind that we see for the foreseeable future in the guidance window that we’ve given.

Michael Lasser

Analyst

And if you look at some of the housing market that has gotten really hot, San Francisco, Miami. Are you seeing similar trends there or any sign that demand is starting to ebb out?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

We don’t really see any change.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

We haven’t seen any change. The fundamentals which, Craig, pointed out for housing and then the impact to home improvement are really, really good, and you go back to household formation. If the number of people in households were they drop to the 2000 plus, it would create 4.3 million new households. Now will they all go into single family owned households? No. But we serve both. We served owned households and we served rental households. So there’s just a tremendous amount of talent that continues to support our business, and our business outlook through 2016 into 2017 for sure. If not ’18, ’19.

Michael Lasser

Analyst

And my follow-up question is on the implementation of comp along with change in your ordering algorithm that you implemented in the quarter. Did that have any impact on sales? Did it drag down sales at all? Did it have any impact on in-stock?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I mean, it's really hard to know. We really don’t know. And the reason that we don’t is, there is so many items candidly in the store that can be substituted. So, if we cause ourselves hurt in one item, it's very possible that a customer picked up another item. So it's pretty difficult to tell.

Michael Lasser

Analyst

Understood. Good luck with the second half of the year.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Seth Sigman, Credit Suisse.

Seth Sigman

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. Great quarter, guys. I just want to follow-up one the last questions. So you exited the quarter with a pretty healthy trend. It sounds like the tone is positive on the demand outlook. Is there anything we should be thinking about in terms of the cadence of comp growth in the back half of the year, Q3 versus Q4?

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. The way that we built our plan and our forecast, is that the comps for Q3, and Q4 will be more or less the same, shouldn’t see a lot of variability there. Now where you will see variability is on the expense growth factor. The expense growth factor will be higher in the third quarter than it is in the fourth quarter principally because of year-over-year comparison. For the full-year, the expense growth factor should be about 32% of our sales growth.

Seth Sigman

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then, maybe just to dig in a little bit further. I mean, have you seen any major change in trends or the demand -- demand outlook exiting the quarter, like early in the third quarter here?

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

No, we’re very pleased with our August results. Parts of the country obviously are flooded. We have a store closed in Louisiana, and we -- our heart goes out to the people who are impacted by that. But if you ignore that kind of activities, we’re very pleased.

Seth Sigman

Analyst

Okay, got it. And then, one of the things that you guys talked about is the growth in units per transaction. I’m just wondering, is there a change in trend there, and if so, like you think that's the result of some of the initiatives or is the comp position of the projects that are getting done right now maybe a little bit different like, how do you think about that trend?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I think that the units per transaction, this is about the third quarter now that, when you think of all the positive comps we’ve had over the past several years, the units per transaction really didn’t move that much. But for the last few quarters, we’ve seen a healthy growth in units per transaction and it's really units in the larger ticket items. When you start to get into larger ticket items, you’re looking at 40, 50, 60 even 70 items in a basket. So this is clearly a project, while appliance sale for example would help the average ticket, you’re only looking at one or two items, the appliance and maybe some connecting hoses. But our project business remains very healthy, and the growth of that unit per transaction and units in things like lumber and building materials are very healthy for the business. So it speaks to Pro, and it speaks to project.

Seth Sigman

Analyst

Okay. That's great color. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Peter Benedict, Robert Baird.

Peter Benedict

Analyst

Hi, guys. Just following up on that, is there any historical perspective you guys can provide us with around this, units per transaction trend that you’re seeing? How does the current metrics compare to any period in the past? And when you started to see an uptick historically, how long does that go on for? Is there any perspective around that you could help us with? Thank you.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

The granularity in items per basket, our history is not so good. Our record keeping is not so extensive, but we can’t really go back to prior periods. But what we can currently and this is, I think a really good new story in terms of the health of the Pro, is that while, the high spend Pros drove the outperformance, the gap between high spend Pros and low spend Pros is narrowing. And as that gap narrows, as we would expect that's a sign of health in this -- in the Pro space. So we would expect this trend in items per basket to continue.

Peter Benedict

Analyst

Okay, Carol thanks. That's helpful. And then just my one follow-up would be, just curious if you guys are seeing anything around mix shifts within categories, building products in particular? Any evidence of any trade-up going on or anything like that? Thank you.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, we’ve continued to see trade-up, we talked about this the last several calls where we’re looking at all our price points and again we had another quarter where our comp progression improves as we go up the line structure from good, better, best. And specific to Pro pricing, I’d say the only callout would be lumber prices are on the move when you’re starting to get some trade-off between plywood and OSV. Just as those prices get back elevated the more premium product in plywood there isn’t as much of a gap in that product class.

Ted Decker

Analyst

Clearly innovation is a driver to the customer stepping up in the line structure. When you provide new innovative products, people step in.

Peter Benedict

Analyst

Okay. Makes, sense. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Dan Binder, Jefferies.

Dan Binder

Analyst

Thank you. I just want to go back to the comment you made earlier about the replenishment era. I was just curious if it was significant enough that it created any in-stock or in-stock issues or loss sales impact?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I mean, we definitely saw an impact in our in-stock position for about six weeks during the quarter, but clearly have recovered from that at this point.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

And let’s put that in perspective for you. We strived to have in-stocks of 99% or greater. As Craig pointed, we were six weeks under that goal, but the largest gap was 13 basis points. So it wasn’t a major disruption, but because of our standards to be 99% or better, we felt it.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. We missed our own expectations.

Dan Binder

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then, you mentioned earlier that there was certain promotions you didn’t repeat, causing the private label penetration on credit to come down a bit. I was just curious on that, if you could talk a little bit about your promotional posture, how you’re thinking about promotions relative to the market both from big box online, anything you can share with us on that front that will be great.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I would say that we have really redoubled our efforts to focus on every day value for the customer. So we are increasingly focused on providing the best product with the best brands at the best prices everyday for all of our customers regardless how they pay.

Dan Binder

Analyst

Okay. Last one for you if you could. Last year there was a willingness to take on some more debt for share buyback thus far you stuck to the $5 billion share buyback, is there a scenario where you could see the leverage increase a bit? I think you’re still under that two times adjusted that EBITDA at this point.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

We are around 1.8 times which gives us about $3 billion of borrowing capacity relative to our target. It's not our intent to let that borrowing capacity continue to grow. And as we have in the past, we’ve opportunistically taken advantage of interest rates and availability to raise incremental shares and increase our share repurchases. So you should think about our past practice. It's something that we should continue in the future. But we like to guide based on what we know today. And what we know today is excess cash to buy back shares. And if we like to issue some incremental debt and buy back some additional shares, we’ll let you know.

Dan Binder

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Brian Nagel, Oppenheimer.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Congrats on a nice quarter.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

My first question, I apologize it may be somewhat repetitive to some of the prior questions. But just to be clear and I think someone else mentioned, there’s been a lot of noise out there with -- in retail sales lately from what other companies are talking about, and clearly we talk about weather. But as you look at the data, even more granular than what we discussed today. Is there anything -- are you seeing anything to suggest or anything to hint at a more cautious consumer environment, particularly in a bigger ticket type projects?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

As we’ve said, we are fortunate that we are in a space where the customer is willing to spend. That's clearly driven by the dynamics that exist in the housing market overall. And as Ted, called out, we had a strong performance in tickets above $900 growing 8.1% in the quarter, and driven not only by big ticket categories like HVAC and appliances but by the units per basket around the project business. So, it's very encouraging what we’re seeing in that.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

Thanks. And then a follow-up Carol, on the expense leverage side. For a while now it seems that Home Depot continues to beat the expectations with regard to expense leverage. You mentioned that again today with, now the higher EPS guidance for the year. So maybe more color on exactly where this latest bit of beat is coming from? And as you look out, is there anything to suggest that at some point Home Depot could really have a more difficult time leveraging expenses or are there continued opportunities?

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Well, we view productivity as a virtuous cycle in our business. And we are constantly looking out ways to drive productivity while ensuring that the customer experience is the best it possibly could be. Most recently, our HR team did a great job of renegotiating some contracts in support of our medical benefit programs for our associates. And that reduction has caused actually a cost out and with that cost out, our people cost are going to be as high this as we anticipated. That benefit will flow through into 2017, which is a good news story. And there are other examples of that, I won't bore you with all those examples, but there are other examples of where our team continues to go after large purchasing contracts to drive productivity and make sure that the experience is one that we want to deliver.

Brian Nagel

Analyst

Thank you and congrats again.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Scot Ciccarelli, RBC Capital Markets.

Scot Ciccarelli

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Scot Ciccarelli. I know you are guys are focused on everyday value, I know you already commented on that. But there was some noise in the quarter regarding maybe heightened promotional cadence around some of the competitors in your space. Is there anything to note from your vantage point regarding changes in the promotional environment?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I mean from time-to-time we see increases in promotional activity. We saw it certainly during the quarter, but we're focused on driving everyday value for our customers.

Scot Ciccarelli

Analyst

Okay. So nothing of note. And then Carol, I know one of the things you’ve talked about increasingly over the last couple of quarters is the aging housing stock in the U.S. I’m curious if you’ve started to come to any conclusions regarding how big of a driver or impact that could be on your business over time? Thanks.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

We are doing more research in this regard, because we've never been in this place in our country, so we don’t have any history to rely on. So we’ve got more research to do. It actually makes us comfortable about our growth forecast as we go into '17, because when things start to break, you got to fix it. And we think it’s a tailwind, but Scot, I don’t -- I can't quantify it yet. Maybe we look at that research done and by the end of next quarter we can give you some more thoughts.

Scot Ciccarelli

Analyst

That would be great. Thanks, guys.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Jessica Mace, Nomura Securities.

Jessica Mace

Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Good morning.

Jessica Mace

Analyst

My question is a follow-up on the supply chain. You talked about it being a work in progress. And you mentioned that COM system and some other factors, but I was wondering if you could just give us a little bit more detail on the next milestones that we should be expecting and what that impact could be on the P&L? Thank you.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Sure. So we do view the supply chain as a an ongoing continue opportunity to optimize, the next big initiative in that is supply chain Sync and Mark Holifield is here. I will let Mark comment.

Mark Holifield

Analyst

Yes, we're pleased -- as we’ve mentioned, it is a work in progress. We continue to see opportunity to improve our in-stock, our inventory productivity, our logistics costs. Sync is the biggest initiative we’ve going in that. Sync is currently in two thirds of our RDCs, 12 of our 18 RDCs, and we're handling about 60% of the cost of goods sold, the dollar volume that goes through there on the Sync initiative. From that we're seeing mainly improved transportation costs and smoother demand flow and we are working with our suppliers to continue to improve those benefits for all in the supply chain. So we will continue along that path until -- but we're not in a hurry. It's still early days and it's a multiyear initiative that we're pursuing there.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

To put it in perspective between 2011 and 2015, on a cumulative basis, our supply chain has driven 68 basis points of gross margin expansion. So it's been very productive for us. We call that the productivity that we experienced in the second quarter and year-to-date we've had about 12 or 13 basis points of productivity. So, we continue to anticipate benefits coming on the gross margin line through the productivity in our supply chain and also there will be longer-term inventory turn benefits. We never want to go out of stock, but there will be longer term inventory turn opportunities.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

And that really comes from shortening lead times.

Jessica Mace

Analyst

Great. Thank you for taking the question.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Sure.

Operator

Operator

We will go next to Greg Melich, Evercore ISI.

Greg Melich

Analyst

Hi. Thanks. I would love to dig a little deeper into the digital online business. I think up 19%, still quite strong, but it is decelerating. Is that just the law of large numbers? Was there something given all the initiatives you’ve whether it be Sync or supply chain changes or getting ready for BOFDS that’s impacted that?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

We don’t look at it as a deceleration on a nominal dollar basis. We've now grown over $200 million for …

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

14 quarters.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

… 14 quarters. One change was the patio line structure I spoke about, we put more value product into the store that really sold incredibly well. And that took about 2, 3 points of comp of our online number. So we’ve been running at that 20-ish, 20 plus for several quarters now growing the business $200 million a quarter.

Greg Melich

Analyst

Got you. And if you -- and just to make sure I got the numbers right, I think you mentioned 42% of online now is done through the stores and I want to make sure I got that right. And two, as you go to this Deliver From Store, how do you think about that in terms of how it could change the online business?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, that’s right. So, 42% of online orders are picked up in the store and 90% of returns are processed in the store and then one of the big benefits following the rollout of comp is we are now following with what we call BOFDS, which is Buy Online Deliver from Store. We’ve always delivered from our stores. The difference now is you can execute the transaction online and pick much shorter delivery window for your delivery. We are in about 700 plus stores now with buy online deliver from store very early days. We will be finished with that rollout by the end of this year and we're seeing really nice pickup from our customers and reuse, particularly our Pros, who have used buy online deliver from store coming back and using it a second and third time. So we think that fulfillment number which is the 42% will grow when we include BOFDS deliveries in that number. It's just -- it's very early right now.

Greg Melich

Analyst

That’s great. Thanks a lot. Good luck.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Shirlone, we have time for one more question.

Operator

Operator

That will come from Laura Champine with Roe Equity Research.

Laura Champine

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

Good morning. I wanted to dig a little deeper into what’s going on with the Pro. Do you think that you’re benefiting from the growth in the market, or are you actually taking market share with Pros? And then assuming you’re taking share with Pros, do you see more strength with smaller Pros, larger Pros, what categories are you dominating that’s driving that share gain?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

I definitely think that the market in total at least when you talk to Pros, they’re busier than they were a year-ago. So the market growth is certainly there. And when we look at the strength in our Pro categories, we believe based on all the data that we have or what we’re taking share in those categories as well.

Carol Tome

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

And if you think about it Laura, based on the census data, which is an [indiscernible] we grew share year-on-year. And since Pro outpaced DIY growth it had to be share coming from -- in the Pro space. So clearly the market is growing, but we’re taking share at the same time.

Laura Champine

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

Got it. And any comments on the strength of the smaller Pro versus the larger Pro?

Craig Menear

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

Yes. What --- as I mentioned earlier, what we’ve seen is a narrowing between the large spend Pro and the high spend Pro in terms of the rate of growth and that is a very healthy sign.

Laura Champine

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

Got it. Thank you.

Craig Menear

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

You bet.

Diane Dayhoff

Analyst · Roe Equity Research

Well, thank you for joining us today. We look forward to having you join us on our next quarterly earnings call in November.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect at this time. We do appreciate your participation.