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The Hackett Group, Inc. (HCKT)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 11, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Hackett Group Second Quarter Earnings Call. Your lines have been placed on a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session. Please be advised that the conference is being recorded. Hosting tonight's call are Mr. Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO; and Mr. Rob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Ramirez, you may begin.

Rob Ramirez

Management

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for joining us to discuss The Hackett Group's second quarter results. Speaking on the call today and here to answer your questions are Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO of The Hackett Group and myself, Rob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer. A press announcement was released over the wires at 4:33 p.m. Eastern Time. For a copy of the release, please visit our website at www.thehackettgroup.com. We will also place any additional financial or statistical data discussed on this call that is not contained in the release on the Investor Relations page of our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that in the following comments and in the question-and-answer session, we will be making statements about expected future results, which maybe forward-looking statements for the purposes of the federal securities laws. These statements relate to our current expectations, estimates and projections, and are not a guarantee of future performance. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and which may not be accurate. Actual results may vary. These forward-looking statements should be considered only in conjunction with the detailed information, particularly the risk factors contained in our SEC filings. At this point, I would like to turn it over to Ted.

Ted Fernandez

Management

Thank you, Rob. As we customarily do, I will start the call by providing some overview or highlight comments on the quarter. I will then turn it back over to Rob and ask him to comment on operating results, cash flow and also on guidance. Rob will then it back over to me, so that we can cover some market or strategic overview comments. And then we will open it up for Q&A. So let me start with the quarterly highlights first. And first let me welcome everyone to our second quarter earnings call. This was another very strong quarter. This afternoon, we’ve reported revenues of $66.4 million, up 9%, 11% on a constant currency basis and pro forma earnings per share of $0.19, up 19% both above the high end of the guidance. Stronger than expected U.S. momentum drove our results across virtually all of our U.S. practices. Our results were in spite of the unfavorable impact from FX which reduced our revenues by more than 2% and pro forma earnings per share by $0.01. Revenue in North America was up 9%, with all Hackett Group practices up nicely and specifically strong performance from our EPM group. Excluding our ERP group, which was down 13% as a result of a tough comp due to large software sales in 2014. Our North American business grew over 15%. European performance was also improved growing at 9% in spite of the strong FX wins I have previously mentioned. Our ability to engage clients strategically beyond our benchmarking in best practice advisory offerings continues to expand. Our transformation clients are acknowledging our broader capabilities and are requesting that we assist with performance improvements beyond the selling and general administrative areas and into operations which increased in deal side. On the EPM or enterprise…

Rob Ramirez

Management

Thank you, Ted and welcome everyone. As I typically do, I’ll cover the following topics during this portion of our call. An overview of our 2015 second quarter results, along with an overview of related key operating statistics. I’ll provide an overview of our cash flow activities during the quarter and I’ll then conclude with the discussion on our financial outlook for the third quarter of 2015. For purposes of this call, any references to The Hackett Group will specifically exclude ERP Solutions. Correspondingly, I’ll comment separately regarding the financial results of The Hackett Group, ERP Solutions, and the total company. Please note that all references to gross revenues in my discussion represent revenues including reimbursable expenses. Additionally, references to pro forma results specifically exclude non-cash stock compensation expense, intangible asset, amortization expense, acquisition-related charges and gains, restructuring charges, and assumes a normalized 30% tax rate. In terms of our second quarter results, for the second quarter of 2015, total company gross revenues were approximately $66.4 million and above our second quarter’s guidance. This represents year-over-year growth of 9% or 11% when adjusting for constant currency. Gross revenues for The Hackett Group which excludes ERP Solutions were $56 million in the second quarter of 2015, an increase of 14% on a year-over-year basis. Hackett Group annualized gross revenue per professional was $397,000 in the second quarter of 2015 as compared to $359,000 in the second quarter of 2014 and $374,000 in the previous quarter. Gross revenue from our ERP Solutions Group, which consists of our SAP Reseller, consulting and application managed services groups’ totaled $10.4 million, were down 13% on a year-over-year basis due to the significant software sale in the second quarter of the prior year. On a normalized basis, the ERP group grew over 13% on a year-over-year…

Ted Fernandez

Management

Thank you, Rob. As we look forward, consistent with the last several quarters, we expect continued growth from our U.S. business across nearly all of our groups. In Europe we do not expect our momentum to continuing to Q3, however we believe that the demand environment is stable even if it comes with more volatile decision making environment when we compare that to the U.S. We expect one of the key drivers of our growth in the U.S. to continue to come from the growing leverage of our wedge or benchmarking an executive advisory offerings, which we have accomplished by expanding our dedicated sales channel and our offerings over the last couple of years. Both of these offerings are highly differentiated in the marketplace, as I previously mentioned we’re now seeing the leverage of the increased entry point integrator number and size of opportunities which is contributing to the growth that we are seeing in the U.S. Another key driver of our growth strategy has been to continue to expand our market leading EPM or enterprise performance management business. EPM now represents approximately 49% of our North American Hackett revenues. We believe that the combination of assembling a terrific team and our unique ability to leverage our best practice configuration and organizational excellence IP that M&A from our benchmarking and advisory business is responsible for the success. Our empirically based insight helps software partner be successful in positioning the business value of their software when their product is optimally configured. Targeting the appropriate information and also taking advantage of our best practice insights to organize their business most effectively. Additionally, our increased focused on AMS or application managed services which was highlighted with the addition of our EPM application acquisition in early 2014 has also provided us both with the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We’ll now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question coming from Mr. George Sutton from Craig-Hallum. Sir, your line is open.

George Sutton

Analyst

Thank you, guys, congratulations on the results.

Ted Fernandez

Management

Thank you, George.

Rob Ramirez

Management

Thank you, George.

George Sutton

Analyst

As we look at the breadth of your offerings, can you quantify the number of touch points you will now have versus what you might have had a year ago largely with your direct sales force. I’m not sure that the easy to answer question or not, but I wanted to get that sense.

Ted Fernandez

Management

Well. Let me take a shot at that, I mean obviously the thing – the most important thing we do is to put out insight that will allows us to market, our thoughts and research which gains and access to clients. But at the end of the day, as we know you’re limited to the number of people that actually call in clients and can selling offerings. And one other things that we really like about some of these new ventures that we’re pursuing with some of these channels is that we think that by doing by having these new offerings and alliances with these significantly larger channels. We’re going to have more people promoting the Hackett capability and our intellectual property to a larger group, significantly larger group than we would ever envision doing that our own. So not only have we broaden our capability George, and by growth adding people and therefore, touching more clients. These new channels for us as they go to market and position Hackett and the Hackett insights to sell their offerings and to tell our story, we believe only enhance not only our ability to grow the services that we plan to offer with them or through them, but expand our call at the Hackett word on a much broader basis as these things kick off.

George Sutton

Analyst

So Ted, you mentioned, you’re seeing both an increased volume and the number of assignments but also larger assignments. I wondered if you could put some general numbers around that?

Ted Fernandez

Management

Without getting into numbers, because you know we always thought you whether or not we will have put new facts on board, because then we feel compel to do that every quarter. I’ll simply say that the number of significant opportunities in the first half of the year are doubled where they were a year-ago. And so we can see the clients are asking us to help them more broadly or even in existing offerings like an EPM implementation, larger clients are asking us to help them. And I think that both the credibility with the channel, but that’s also the Hackett capability and credibility expanding in the marketplace broadly.

George Sutton

Analyst

Lastly from me. You mentioned you were trying to more closely mere your U.S operator, your European operations with your U.S operations. Could you explain what you mean by that?

Ted Fernandez

Management

Well. Our U.S operations have – as we just said our U.S. operations have a very significant EPM grew that represents 49% of our Hackett revenues, that’s one to mention that we have invested in Europe, but obviously do not have anywhere – we’re just we’re in the starting – we are at the starting guided developing that capability, but put your leaders on the ground started hiring people, have been doing, have been signing our new engagements. That’s a one example of the scale and capability very differently. We also have a transformation business in the U.S that broadened into procurement and operations much more broadly than it does in Europe. So we’ve been looking for ways to broaden that procurement and operations capability in Europe, we have significant clients there, but we don’t have the people in the scale that we have in the U.S. And then I would say if I go to the AMS side, even though we have one of our largest clients in the AMS area reside in Europe, we have a much broader presence in both the number of people they go to market representing our AMS capabilities that’s surround our SAP and Oracle business and that has an impact as well. So those are two like, easy examples of how Europe differs from our capabilities in the U.S.

George Sutton

Analyst

Okay, perfect. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Mr. Morris Ajzenman from Griffin Securities. Your line is open.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

Hey guys.

Ted Fernandez

Management

Hi, Morris.

Rob Ramirez

Management

Hi, Morris.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

I’m looking at the strategic relationships that we previously discussed CIMA, Oracle, ADP your company gearing up this year with these three new ventures training the sales force et cetera, et cetera. And 2016 we see some sort of particulars, I know its tough you talking some perspective norms because everything is under come but is there anyway you can discuss the opportunities for 2016 new contracts anything to give sense of baseline what could happen at a minimum anyway you kind of frame that process for 2016?

Rob Ramirez

Management

We’re looking at those three opportunities and they are very different. And we continue to pursue others. But we look at those three opportunities. And the ADP comes with a multi-year, multi-million dollar guarantee that have to happen over an 18-month period. So we know for a fact that the ADP relationship will drive increased revenues for us once we kicked this off hopefully before the end of this quarter. So that one is certain, when we look at CIMA we know that the addressable market for CIMA is large we think that our ability to have a complete suite of offerings across all level of shared and certain and global business service professionals is going to be important. But we do have an entry level program and plan to have a second program that would be our completed and ready for the market very early in 2016 and then we plan to have a management level program that we plan to have sometime in mid-2016. So there it’s a new offering, we know its an addressable market. We obviously know the level of success and market credibility that our partner has, they know the kind of IP and access that we have the large clients who have these large shared services and global business services. So again, we would expect to have some impact from that offering growth throughout 2016. And then lastly HPE, the HPE, Oracle relationship, well that relies heavily on the joint success of both the Oracle business intelligence cloud service and ours and look we know how aggressively they are pursuing and marketing the offerings we started to train their sales force, this quarter we expect to completed sometime before the end of the quarter. So again, we’ll have a chance to have some go to market real go to market activity during the fourth quarter as we enter 2016. But we don’t want to put a number on it, because we think it would be misleading but we would expect the impact to be visible because of both the opportunity in the channel and more importantly or whatever we build throughout 2016 we would expect this to continue to grow rapidly into 2017.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

Are you allowed to discuss contractually, your share of profits of revenues?

Rob Ramirez

Management

I’m sorry, which for – for which one Morris?

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

For any of them it allowed to discuss?

Rob Ramirez

Management

Well, no. I mean our HPE offerings is sold, those – the margin and price for that offering is sold with the margin implied for this offering – I mean, obviously will do whatever we needed to help them close business and provide incentives accordingly. But those – the margin opportunity that we’re originally envision with HPE in this new alliance – we retained it all, as Oracle has done the same with their offering. So we believe both offering help to sell one another. So it’s a very good relationship. On the CIMA side the alliance agreement that we hope to finalize and execute that is being proposed as they complete partnership. So the share of profitability, revenues and profit and M&A from that activity – it will be shared equally. And then on the ADP side, a look – I mean they, we have a pricing per program that relies on the size of the clients, that’s what – that’s what determines the ultimate pricing on that product. But ADP truly controls that, but the opportunities, the way we structured it, a guarantees, provides us with at least the same margin opportunity we have in executive advisory today. So again what we love about it is that – it goes to market with a much broader channel, the delivery of our IP and all of those of those offerings, the investment of HPE has been made the delivery of our IP there is – repurposing and repackaging. So it can be done very efficiently, so – we would expect these to be recurring very high margin businesses compared to our traditional secret service business.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

Recurring revenues. What percent of revenues is that – exit this quarter?

Rob Ramirez

Management

We exited the quarter at – when you look at AMS and executive advisory, it’s approximately 15%. But I always like to remind people just how consistent this universal client that turns the Hackett every time that seem to – to want to look at just how well they’re executing these activities that we have so much information around, how regardless of time, how consistently they turn to us – I would like to remind people this is what’s recurring. But we proven overtime that when somebody of suffers from productivity improvement. We seem to get our fair share of very large clients they not return to us and that’s been great for our business.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

One last question, I’ll get back in queue. Europe is up 9% this quarter was it profitable?

Ted Fernandez

Management

Yes. Europe is profitable and well, always be very profitable and by the opportunity and Europe profitability is significant because so much of our IP and other expenses and all these things are invested and reside and continue throughout the globe. So it’s not Europe depended. So it’s not an issue of profitability is that we are at a Europe is at a third of our 08 profitability. I mean our opportunities in Europe, its Europe was to really have see sustainable growth are just very, very substantial. So we’re disappointed that we’re not going to see that momentum carry at the Q3, if you remember last year we saw nice upticks from Q2 to Q3. There are simply not going to be able to keep up with that. So on a local currency basis as Rob said they are going to be down around 10%, 12% and when you add FX there is another 10%, 12%. So we expected it to be down about 20% or 25%. The beauty of the overall strength of our model is that our U.S. business which was up around if you take out that software sell was up nearly 15%, we expected it to continue at that pace for the foreseeable future. So it’s just going to offset any short-term weakness in Europe or any FX and we’re experiencing in that what’s driving such strong results.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

And that’s kind of Europe at 25% in third quarter well that mean loss or it would be profitable?

Ted Fernandez

Management

No, no. It will be profitable. We don’t do anything at loss Morris. We – I don’t say that implicitly we just don’t I mean we have – it has meaningful margin protection is just the opportunity we are leaving that we previously achieved that just very significant we’d love to get it back. But as we told our investor base throughout the year until we see it actually materialize and Europe, we’re not going to count on it. We didn’t depend on the Europe improvement in our 2015 plan as you can see we are at or above any plan number we’ve share with the marketplace so far including our Q3 guidance.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I’m showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Fernandez.

Ted Fernandez

Management

Okay. We’ll then let me thank everyone for participating in our second quarter earnings call. We look forward to updating everyone again when we report the third quarter. Thank you again for participating.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for participating in today’s conference. You may now disconnect.