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The Hackett Group, Inc. (HCKT)

Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 5, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Hackett Group Third Quarter Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that the conference is being recorded. Hosting tonight's call are Mr. Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO; and Mr. Rob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Ramirez, you may begin.

Robert A. Ramirez

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss The Hackett Group's third quarter results. Speaking on the call today and here to answer your questions are Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO of the Hackett group; and myself, Robert Ramirez, CFO. Our press announcement was released over the wires at 4:09 p.m. Eastern Time. For a copy of the release, please visit our website at www.thehackettgroup.com. We will also place any additional financial or statistical data discussed on this call, that is not contained in the release, on the Investor Relations page of our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that in the following comments and in the question-and-answer session, we will be making statements about expected future results, which may be forward-looking statements for the purposes of the federal securities laws. These statements relate to our current expectations, estimates and projections and are not a guarantee of future performance. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and which may not be accurate. Actual results may vary. These forward-looking statements should be considered only in conjunction with the detailed information, particularly the risk factors contained in our SEC filings. At this point, I would like to turn it over to Ted.

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

Thank you, Rob, and welcome, everyone, to The Hackett Group's third quarter earnings call. As we customarily do, I will start by providing some overview comments relative to our third quarter performance. I will then turn it back over to Rob and ask him comment on detailed operating results, cash flow and any updates relative to our credit facility and also ask him provide some detailed comments regarding our guidance. He will then turn it back over to me. I will try to provide some market and strategic overview comments and then we will open it up for Q&A. But let me first start with our quarterly highlight comments. We were pleased to report revenues of $58 million and pro forma earnings per share of $0.12 in our third quarter of the fiscal year 2013. For the quarter, strong U.S. performance was partially offset by weaker than expected international performance, which prevented us from being at the high-end of the guidance. More importantly, we now expect continuing deterioration in both Europe and Australia to more than offset continued year-on-year U.S. improvement in the fourth quarter. Our U.S. business experienced solid sequential and year-on-year improvements, particularly in our transformation and enterprise performance management groups. Internationally, both Europe and Australia were down more than expected, with the weakness in Europe coming primary from the U.K. On the balance sheet side, we continue to generate strong cash flow and -- but we did not pay down any additional debt as we prepared for the Dutch tender offer, which was planned during the quarter. We acquired nearly 1 million shares in our Dutch tender, which was short of our targeted 5.5 million shares, even after increasing our range. Given these results, the board approved an increase to our buyback authorization of an additional $5 million, taking the total available authorization to $10 million. I'm also pleased to announce that the board approved the declaration of annual dividend. Correspondingly, we will pay $0.10 per share for any shareholder of record as of December 10, on or before December 20 of this year. On the investment front, and consistent with prior quarters, we continue to develop and attract talent and expand our brand and intellectual property through the constant best practice research that we publish, that emanates from our proprietary benchmarking and performance study insight, as well as the development of our new Hackett Performance Exchange offering. I will comment about these opportunities in more detail in my strategic overview section of our call. I'll also comment further on market conditions and specific go-to-market initiatives, but let me first ask Rob to provide details on our operating results, cash flow and also comment on outlook. Rob?

Robert A. Ramirez

Analyst

Thank you, Ted. As I typically do, I'll cover the following topics during our call: an overview of the 2013 third quarter results, along with an overview of related key operating statistics; an overview of the cash flow activities during the quarter; and I'll then conclude with a discussion on our financial outlook for the fourth quarter of 2013. For purposes of this call, any references to Hackett Group, will specifically exclude ERP Solutions. Correspondingly, I will comment separately regarding the financial results of The Hackett Group, ERP Solutions and the Total Company. Please note that all references to gross revenues in my discussions represent net revenues plus reimbursable expenses. As mentioned in previous quarters, we exited our Oracle ERP implementation practice during the first quarter of 2013. As such, historical information discussed on this call has been recast for comparability purposes. Additionally, references to pro forma results specifically exclude non-cash stock compensation expense, intangible asset amortization expense, results of discontinued operations and assume a normalized tax rate of 40%. Now moving onto our discussion on third quarter. As I mentioned on our second quarter call, the third quarter, on a sequential basis, is seasonally impacted by the timing of the U.S. holiday as well as the normal increase in vacation taken in both the U.S. and Europe, which unfavorably impacted available billing days on a sequential basis by approximately 5%. For the third quarter of 2013, total company gross revenues were $58 million and at the midpoint of our third quarter's guidance. This represents a year-over-year increase of 4% and a sequential decrease of 2%. Pro forma EPS was $0.12, which was also at the midpoint of our guidance and up 9% from the prior year. International revenues were down approximately 10% sequentially and 9% on a year-over-year basis.…

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. As we look forward, we expect year-over-year growth from our U.S. business, led by our EPM transformation benchmarking and advisory groups. We also expect demand in international to remain adequate, but characterized by uneven decision-making as compared to the U.S. We believe that some of our international volatility may be a result of our scale and more limited solution offering, when compared to the U.S. A key part of our solid U.S. activity is due to our very strong Enterprise Performance Management and Business Intelligence Capability, which now represents over 40% of our total U.S. Hackett revenues. If you recall in our last quarter's call, I mentioned that we have recently been named Oracle's #1 influence partner in EPM and BI in North America. To leverage this strength, internationally, we have hired a new European leader that has experience in successfully building and managing EPM practices. Additionally, we also plan to move selected U.S. EPM technology professionals to Europe to help us aggressively grow this critical capability in that region. We believe, by more closely mirroring our U.S. capabilities in Europe and building our EPM and BI strength globally, we can improve our ability to grow in Europe and also further our global delivery capabilities, which are important for large multinational engagements. Beyond our immediate focus on Europe, our strategy is to continue to build our brand, by building dedicated skills around our unmatched intellectual capital in order to serve clients strategically. We believe that clients that leverage our IP are more likely to allow us to serve them more broadly. IP-based services enhance our opportunity to serve clients remotely, continuously and more profitably. Our goal is to use this unique intellectual capital to establish a strategic relationship with our clients and to further use that entry…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Bill Sutherland.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

So just, obviously, a little more color on Europe would be great, Ted, and as much as maybe the mix of business over there at this point, and what's faring better than some of the other offerings? And I guess, and if you can also give a little more color on how many resources you're putting over there?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

I guess, I would mention 2 things. One is that, the most important thing I mentioned is that we know how important our EPM capability has been to the overall U.S. success. So I would start by saying that, we think making sure that we add and grow that capability in Europe is important. Secondly, relative to client decision-making, look, we had one significant client in Europe and one significant client in Australia, push Q4 opportunities into Q1, for entirely different reasons, that would be one way to add color. I would say, the other piece of it, as you know, probably Europe, relative to the U.S., the mix of working capital, or REL-related business, to the overall number is more significant. And I would say that there continues to be higher demand for the strategic cost reduction efforts of Hackett than there are right now for working capital-related additions. And I think, that's simply a direct function of just the access to capital and lower overall weighted average cost in capital that has taken place since the financial crisis. That would be the best way to add color. Overall, Bill, I think, further color is just that, with the smaller scale, those differences in client decisions are pushed can significantly alter our quarterly performance as we are experiencing right now. And I think, that's just a direct -- directly related to scale. I don't think, we can change scale. But I think, we can more closely mirror the capabilities in the U.S. And I think, that would help, so we're aggressively doing that. We're starting with the leaders. We're going to quickly build capabilities around that. We have actually made some staff adjustments in Europe to actually allow us to make those investments more freely. We think, there is demand for those services. But as you know, it'll take time to ramp that up. But we hope to, by the middle of the year. We've got a pretty nice capability in Europe as we head into the second half. So our hope is that the pushes start, that the decision-making does not change much, let's say, activity there. When I say adequate, look, it's no different than it was the last few quarters. And that we would see results from Europe actually contribute instead of hurt us to this level, like they are, relative to our fourth quarter guidance.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

You said, the U.K. was the weakest, a little surprised by that, just based on the kinds of economic numbers they've been reporting, you feel it's unrelated to that?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

Well, I think, when you look at the 2 major markets that we serve, Germany and the U.K., economic activity and -- the really strong consumer industrial manufacturing orientation of Germany has always been a pretty good market place for Hackett Group. So Germany is stronger than the U.K. Germany is more predictable than the U.K. and Germany's client base is -- probably has more affinity to our offerings than they do in the U.K.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

The headcount reductions in the quarter, were they related mostly to Europe? Or more to the ERP Solution reduction?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

No. I would say that it was probably more to the quarter itself. It's really more of -- since it was -- those numbers are really not that large, if you look at it sequentially. It's probably just traditional turnover with us, just kind of holding the line. I think you'll see some of the headcount related things that I'm talking about, they really happened throughout the fourth quarter so they'll probably be more visible in Q1.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

I mean, based on your forecast for the fourth quarter, I mean, even on a billable day basis, it seems like you'll be trimming headcount further, available headcount?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

No, no. We -- we're -- with the changes that we've made, related to Europe have been made, those are happening, or have already happened, and -- but you won't see those reflected in -- until you see our Q1 headcount numbers. But we're not making -- these are small adjustments relative to our total European headcount. Europe is important. Europe -- in our view, long-term should be equal the size of the U.S. and our goal is to get it there. But there is no doubt that economic strength, client decision-making in Europe does not match the intensity of velocity of the U.S. It's different.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And on Hackett Performance Exchange, as you build up a sales force, I guess, this quarter, should we expect to see, I mean, Rob laid the outlook for expense lines. I'm just curious as you -- I guess, you are switching, I suppose, from development to sales expense, and is that how we should think about it?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

Somewhat. But we're going to continue the development of the product, but we believe the product will be ready to commercially sell and go-to-market, and so we'd like to build that dedicated sales force as quickly as we can. And we've kicked that off already, so it'll happen throughout this quarter and into next quarter. And yet, those numbers are already in the SG&A guidance we've provided.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

Okay.

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

Yes, the reason you're not seeing it, Bill, is that -- we manage SG&A pretty well. We've had cost containment efforts that were actually put in place and would benefit it from throughout the year. So you're seeing netting of number, that's why you're not seeing any significant movement. You are seeing SG&A, as a percentage of revenue, still continue to pretty -- to come down. But it's really -- we're just offsetting decisions we have previously made by making investments and they're showing up there now.

William Sutherland - Northland Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

Is there still a penny of building and development in the expense structure this quarter?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

That is correct. And that will continue throughout 2014, as we fully support the product. And try to drive adoption and see if we can build a revenue based on the offering.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from George Sutton.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is Ryan, in for George. Where do you stand in your goal of expanding your brand permission? As we do checks, most companies still think of Hackett as a benchmarking firm, but your results the past couple of years suggest you're having in some success.

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

Well, we try to do it everyday. For example, I just looked at our marketing report for the current quarter. We had a 100 -- over 100 industry placements, quoting and citing Hackett across global periodicals and mediums throughout the globe. Our goal is to be able to use the fact that people want that research insight and to make sure that anyone ever refers to Hackett, we try to drive an implementation message to basically quickly follow the fact that our research and our data is what gets us into the press. We are trying to do it in the grassroots way. We do not believe that a broad-based advertising campaign that would be used by someone of much greater scale is something that we should do or could do at our scale. We think the process we're using to make sure clients understand that we're every bit as good at designing and implementing a solution as we are at helping them identify -- they tell us the size of the prize. Is there -- and we do it every opportunity we can. But you will not see us change our advertising or marketing budget in some substantial way in order to do that in a quicker fashion than we believe we can.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And regarding M&A, are there any other Archstone or Relic opportunities out there, in your view?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

We spent quite a bit of time kind of scouring the universe looking for great opportunities. So yes, the answer is those efforts continue. But it's a combination of getting the right -- you've got to hit the right blend of strategic fit, culture fit in valuation. So that's really what predicates timing. But we've got the capital and our effort in that area continues very strongly.

Operator

Operator

Next, we have Morris Ajzenman.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities, Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Going back to international, Europe and Australia, if I would quote correctly in the second quarter, still declining but the trend's looking ahead, showing some improvement, in a way the decline looks like it was just getting better. Now the third quarter, we hit -- clearly, we have a dip here and looks like into the fourth quarter continuing, maybe even accelerating. You talked about one client in Europe and one in Australia, particularly. But is this overall trend where even, x individual clients. that Europe and, to some extent Australia, are just retrenching, or moving back into a more defensive mode as far as spending. I mean, what's kind of changed, not that it was accurate before, but what's kind of reverted back to where things are more difficult now?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

I think the macroeconomic conditions are the same. I don't really think it's changed. Yes, some people would say that European -- Europe is improving. You asked me this pretty frequently. We haven't seen that. We think that economic growth is still hard to come by. Client decision-making, as we can tell, can be, clearly, more uneven and have different velocity than it does in the U.S. Some people would make the argument that Australia may be at a high, high level. Somebody would say it is changing. No, Australia for us is -- it's a small entry point. So a client decision to start or stop can impact an Australia reference. In the U.K. it is really more broader. And as I said, a couple of client decisions, can -- I'll call it, exacerbate the issue in this quarter. And yes, back to your reference throughout up to Q3, if you remember, we thought that there was choppiness going into Q3, I mean, Q2. We thought we were going to have pretty significant decline, which we did have, instead of 20%, it was a 17% decline in Europe. We thought our decline in Europe in the third quarter would be 3% to 5%, it ended up being in the higher end. Australia ended being beyond the higher end of the range that we were thinking for Australia. Remember, our penny is $0.5 million. There is your penny, that was the difference between midpoint and high-end, which is, as you know, we target. Relative to the fourth quarter, a couple of those pushes, and in my view, as you get to the end of the year, would perhaps, maybe some clients being a little bit more cautious, if they don't think the fourth quarter is fully baked, protecting year-end performance,…

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities, Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Switching gears, one further question on Hackett Performance Exchange. I'm not sure how this plays out, but you say you're certain of the investments through 2014. The paid subscription model, will that commence in the first quarter of '14 or is that going to be pushed out later into the year?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

No, we will start marketing the product to be used either for an event, or as we would like, for an event that then leads to it being for a continuous use. So our goal is to be able to offer the dashboard to be used either way, as an event or as a continuous monitoring product. But even on the event top, even in the event efforts, our hope and belief is that if a client sees the value of the dashboard, how easy it is and how compelling the information is, they will want to use it on a continuous basis. That's what we hope to prove in 2014, but as I've always said, until I prove it, I'll talk about its promise, but promise nothing.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities, Inc., Research Division

Analyst

But Ted, as far as the timetable looks, from your eyes, over the last few quarters, everything is on schedule, things have pushed out, there have not been any bugs or things for you that pushes this out a quarter throughout?

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

That is correct. That is correct. The product, the testing, the feedback, the way we think, how we go to market with it, all those things that are required for commercial launch, we believe are in track for January 1.

Operator

Operator

At this time I show no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Fernandez.

Ted A. Fernandez

Analyst

I would like to thank everyone for participating in our third quarter earnings call and look forward to updating you again, when we report the results for the fiscal year and our fourth quarter. Thank you again for participating.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation on today's call.