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Hamilton Beach Brands Holding Company (HBB)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Sun, Nov 10, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by and welcome to the Hamilton Beach Brands Holding Company Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today; Lou Anne Nabhan, Head of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Lou Anne Nabhan

Analyst

Thank you Jodi and good morning everyone. Welcome to our third quarter 2019 earnings conference call and webcast for Hamilton Beach Brand Holding Company. Greg Trepp, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Michelle Mosier, Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer will discuss the company's third quarter results and our outlook. Also present for the Q&A will be Al Rankin, Chairman of Hamilton Beach Brands Holding Company and Scott Tidey, Senior Vice President North America Sales and Marketing for Hamilton Beach Brands.Yesterday after the market closed, we issued an earnings release announcing our third quarter results and filed a 10-Q with the SEC both documents can be found on our website at www.hamiltonbeachbrands.com. A replay of today's call will be posted on the website this afternoon and when available a transcript will be posted.Today's presentation contains forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in either the prepared remarks or during the Q&A. Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties was included in our earnings release in 10-Q. The company disclaims any obligation to update these forward-looking statements which may not be updated until our next quarterly conference call if at all.I'll now turn the call over to Greg.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Thank you Lou Anne and good morning everyone and thanks for joining our call. My comments will focus on our Hamilton Beach Brands segment, while Michelle will discuss our consolidated results and Kitchen Collection. I'll take a few minutes now to provide some high level comments about Kitchen Collection.As I'm sure you read on October 15, we announced the Kitchen Collection would wind down its retail operations and close all of its 160 stores by the end of the year. Sales began at all stores soon after the announcement and will continue through the holiday selling season. While, it's early in the process the wind down is in line with expectations.As we've discussed previously Kitchen Collection had been taking steps for some time to enhance its position and prospects by reducing in store portfolio to a core that was expected to support longer-term profitability, while operating losses have moderated in the first half of 2019 compared to last year. Kitchen Collection continued to experience decreased comparable store sales resulting from a decline in foot traffic.Despite our best efforts to return Kitchen Collection to profitability through store count consolidation further deterioration in foot traffic lowered Kitchen Collection's outlook for the prospects for future return to profitability and positive cash flow generation.We evaluated strategic alternatives to maximize the value of the business and reached the difficult, but necessary conclusion that it was in the best interest of the company and all of its stakeholders to wind down the business by the end of 2019. We're deeply grateful to all of our Kitchen Collection employees for their hard work and dedication during a difficult time and we commend their efforts and professionalism in conducting an orderly wind down process.The difficult as this action is for the kitchen collections 800 employees the move should…

Michelle Mosier

Analyst

Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. I'll discuss the quarterly results for Kitchen Collection, our consolidated results for the quarter, and then I'll review our outlook for the full year 2019. Kitchen collections third quarter revenues declined $20.3 million from $25.9 million last year, due to the closure of 37 stores and to lower comparable store sales.An operating loss of $3.1 million included a $1 million impairment charge and compared to a loss of $2.4 million last year. As previously reported, Kitchen Collection expects to incur expenses in the range of $4 million to $6 million, during the fourth quarter primarily for severance obligations and professional fees related to its wind down.Total cash expenditures related to the wind-down, excluding cash expenditures in the ordinary course as Kitchen Collection, continues to operate are expected to be in the range of $6 million to $8 million. These charges and expenses do not include lease termination obligation as the amount is subject to negotiation and it's not known at this time.Our estimate of the charges and expenses is preliminary and subject to change until finalized. We expect that the historical and future financial results of Kitchen Collection will be classified as discontinued operations in the period during which the assets are abandoned, which we in currently anticipate to occur during the 2019 fourth quarter.In connection with the wind down of Kitchen Collection and Wells Fargo got into a forbearance agreement, with respect to the Kitchen – and secured revolving line of credit. Under the terms of the agreement Wells Fargo has agreed to forbear from exercising its rights and remedies as a result of the events of default resulting from the decision to wind down the business, pending payment in full on or before December 15th, 2019. Hamilton Beach Brands Holding Company…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Justin Kleber of Baird. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks. Good morning guys.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Good morning.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

I wanted to first follow-up on the direct import sales comment. Can you give us a sense as to the mix of revenue historically that comes from retailers directly importing the product versus more traditional fulfillment from your U.S. distribution centers?

Greg Trepp

Analyst

It varies by year. So it really depends on the retailer's desire to focus on that one year to the next. But we -- right now as we've looked at what we think the comparison is based on our promotions of this year and our order pattern this year it's roughly half of the U.S. consumer mix. So it's a number really that can affect a percentage of our business, but it's not something that's the majority of our business.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

Okay. Thanks Greg. And then I guess as it relates when you say the retailers realize cost savings by taking possession of product in China, is that just because they can move it from China at a lower cost than you? Or it's an inboard -- inbound transportation savings or is there something else? What's creating that cost favorability to the retailer?

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Sure. So it depends on the event or the type of order that it is they have our internal models that they put it through. We feel like we're very efficient and bringing it in with our container rates and handling it through our distribution system. But by moving it through to our DC in and then having to either come get it or we ship it to them, there is extra transportation and steps involved. If we pass those along on certain events, when it gets into their systems, they can distribute in a way that helps them save a small amount.We don't think it's a dramatic amount, when they put it through their models for big large orders in the fourth quarter. It looks like you can save them a percent or 2% or 0.5% then we'll make a decision whether they want to take that in and take the inventory risk earlier.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

Okay. So it's just cutting out one step in the distribution process. Exactly, right. Okay. That's helpful.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Yes.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

And then maybe another question around tariffs and as it relates to just the cost increases that you're trying to push through. Are you already trying to pass through increases in anticipation of List 4B going into effect in December? Or are the actions to date really been more so in response to tariffs that are currently in place?

Scott Tidey

Analyst

Hey, Justin. This is Scott. So, on the tariff side of things, we are looking and preparing if 4B were to go into effect on December 15, but those increases aren't in place. We do have some retailers that require a certain amount of lead-time to price increases. So we take that into consideration, but we're going to be able to get closer to that date and better understand what may be happening.But we are going to be prepared in case it does happen and work with our retailers to let them know what those prices would be if those tariffs were to go in place December 15.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

Okay. Maybe shifting gears just a bit any way to quantify the impact? You mentioned the decision to walk away from some of the dollar store channel business. And was that a material impact here in the quarter or as we look out the fourth quarter?

Scott Tidey

Analyst

We still have a little bit of it. We're about 50% of that loss is going to be in the back half of this year. And so we've got a little bit more to go. We got a little bit that will continue into the first quarter, but I think as we indicated while the other revenue dollars were there the margin dollars are very minimal in total on it and we think we'll be passed it in the first quarter of next year.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

Okay. And as you just think about the holiday season and how things are shaping up in terms of placements and the mass channel, you feel pretty good about how things are looking for the holiday season from that standpoint and placements perspective?

Scott Tidey

Analyst

Sure. Again, this is Scott. I'm looking at U.S. consumer in Canada. I think we feel like our holiday promotions are well in place some of the retailers are already leaking out their Black Friday promotions and trying to start things a little bit earlier since Thanksgiving falls a little bit later this year. But we look at overall distributions and promotions and we feel like we're in a good place to claw back some of the declines that we had in the third quarter.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Justin, this is Greg. Just as we you think about the wording that Michelle provided on, how we think the full year will end up based on what we think will happen in the fourth quarter.What we did is account-by-account, division-by-division, built our view of the fourth quarter. And try to make that as middle-of-the-road, as we could. We then said, okay, well, if it doesn't work out the way we think, what is the downside to that?And took some revenue off of that and used those two numbers the middle-of-the-road view and the downside to clarify our view of how the year would be. And so when Michelle said, we expect revenue to be approximately even with 2018 and operating profit will be in a range of even to modest decrease, compared to 2018.That takes into account that range of potential numbers. If there is a negative reaction in some way to price increases or foot traffic or anything in that might reduce it from our downside, then we would not hit that estimate and that guidance.And if things were, sell through a little stronger we could be a little bit. But we feel that's kind of sitting here today, that's our best view of how we could end up.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

Yeah. That makes sense. Thanks for that color, Greg. Just the last question as a follow-up to that, as I think about those updated guidance parameters and what it implies for the fourth quarter.It seems like the outlook would embed a pretty material increase in gross margin during the fourth quarter, which is obviously a reversal from what the experience has been year-to-date.So what's changing in the fourth quarter? Is it simply, a cost leverage on higher sales or is there something else going on within gross margin that we should be aware of, in 4Q? Thank you.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Yeah. That's could be definitely leverage is a big part of it. We make the vast majority of our profit in the back half of the year when we have such a high volume with that volume now shifting in the larger way to the fourth quarter, that's going to provide even more leverage.We do feel like we do happened to sell some higher-end product in the fourth quarter that helps, but the majority of that increase is due to just a higher volume at that time of the year.

Justin Kleber

Analyst

All right guys. Well I appreciate the time. And best of luck over the holidays.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Thank you, Justin.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Todd Lechtenberger of Amalfi Investments. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Todd Lechtenberger

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, guys. How should we follow-up on a, lower direct import sales? Help me understand. So, instead of them being the retailers taking the product in China and that's when you recognize revenue. They're saying - we understand is they're saying, ship it over here. And then, we'll take delivery once it gets some here.And so there's a four or five six weeks delay to get it over on the boat. But you guys don't -- if I remember correctly, don't you take possession of the inventory, when it crosses the rail in China?So that would lead me to believe that there would be an uptick in the inventory that you have. But there's only about a $5 million increase in inventory. Just help me understand on how that works a little bit better.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Sure. As far as the methodology, we do take -- we do recognize ownership of the inventory when it crosses the rail in China, when we're the importer. If the customer is the importer, then that moves to their books not our books.The other progress we're making in inventory is really coming from the fact that last year we were too high in inventory. And we were sort of working that down all year long. We came into this year, in a better position.But not what we needed to be and we've just been working very hard to get that back into our normal range. So really the inventory comp period that you're looking at is really one that was too high last year and is better this year.Now, if we hit our sales number it would be even lower, because we bought inventory to support a little stronger business in the third quarter, as we went into the quarter and during the ordering period.But with all the change that we just talked about that shifting into the fourth quarter, so we'll move that through we believe, in good order here in the fourth quarter.

Todd Lechtenberger

Analyst

Okay, thanks, guys. Thanks Greg.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions in the queue. At this time, I will turn the call back over to Greg Trepp.

Greg Trepp

Analyst

Thank you. I'd like to leave you with a few key takeaways. As we close in on the end of the year, we have many positive things happening in the business. And our teams continue to execute the creativity and professionalism that we believe will win over time.We're looking forward to entering 2020 focused entirely on, Hamilton Beach Brands. As our Kitchen Collection business will be closed. Many of the short-term issues we're experiencing will be addressed or behind us, although we potentially have the 4B tariffs to address in early 2020.We remain very optimistic about our longer-term opportunities and the potential for our six strategic initiatives to drive significant growth. As a reminder, these initiatives are outlined in detail, in our earnings release in the section called Investor Perspective.With that, I'll conclude our call today. The holidays are just around the corner. And I wish you and your families, a wonderful season. Thank you for joining us.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.