L. Mallard
Analyst · KeyBanc
Okay. All right, David. That's a lot to unpack, so get ready. So first, let's start with the with the headwinds, the margin headwinds. As I look at Q1 conservatively, I would say we had at least 200 basis points of EBITDA margin headwinds. At least half of that was associated with the ERP transition in Europe. So that's a combination of lower sales, as we talked about, and then the impact of higher temporary SG&A cost as we move to the hypercare phase of that go-live. Those costs are temporary. They'll come out as we exit Q2. And then the other half is a combination of the footprint optimization kind of cost out that we talked about in the first half of the year as well as the impact of less days, right, just kind of the leverage part of the less days. And so you kind of take that into account we're kind of pushing up towards 23% EBITDA from a one-off perspective. And then I look at Q2, the midpoint, we're at 22.2%, I think -- 22.3% -- 22.2%. And I see we still have about 100 basis points of headwind. Again, about half of that coming from ERP, almost entirely coming from hypercare and increased SG&A. And then the rest really coming around the footprint and cost actions. That should be complete by the end of Q2. And so again, before we get -- start to get any of the savings or anything, we're approaching 23%. And so as I look at those 2 kind of data points and I looked at the 23.5%, that Ivo talked about, in the back half of the year, well, I mean, we feel pretty good. We feel pretty good, getting through the ERP transition, exiting the way we did, [indiscernible] a little core growth in EMEA and then kind of looking at the rest of the business and starting to get a little bit of growth there, we feel pretty good about things. From a tariff perspective, we don't really expect any impact from the 232 stuff. Most of ours was classified as automotive. And so that really doesn't impact us at all. We have a little bit of headwinds, maybe 20 bps of kind of dilution as we priced for tariffs. We're not even counting that though in any of our numbers. We're going to get to where we need to get irrespective of that. From a -- when you think about what's going on in the Middle East and the cost of oil and how that kind of impacts through the enterprise, obviously, that's going to impact things like resins and polymers and compounds. It's going to impact things that have high energy use, like aluminum and steel. You're seeing those go up. And then there's ripple effects to the rest of the P&L. When it comes to pricing for inflation, we're very confident on that, right? We've always been able to price for inflation. We're getting out ahead of that. And we learned some lessons as we think back post-COVID and the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and we're really focused on surety of supply for our customers. In addition, we've done a lot of work around our supply base. So supplier development, alternative materials, different things like that. And we feel like we're in a very solid position in terms of making sure we can take care of our customers, get surety of supply not have any kind of interruptions in the business. And then also, as I said, we know we can price for inflation, and we will make sure we take care of that. In addition, we're sticking by our guidance in the second half, and we feel pretty good about it, okay?