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Goosehead Insurance, Inc (GSHD)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Goosehead Insurance Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. It is now pleasure to introduce Senior Vice President ICR, Mr. Garrett Edson. Please go ahead, sir.

Garrett Edson

Analyst

Thank you and good afternoon. With us today are your hosts, Mark Jones, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Goosehead; Michael Colby, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Mark Colby, Chief Financial Officer. By now everyone should have access to our earnings announcement, which was released prior to this call and which may also be found on our website at ir.gooseheadinsurance.com. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that part of our discussion today may include forward-looking statements, which are based on the expectations, estimates, and projections of management as of today. The forward-looking statements in our discussion are subject to various assumptions, risks, uncertainties, and other factors that are difficult to predict, and which could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore undue reliance should not be placed upon them. We refer all of you to our recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could impact the future operating results and financial condition of Goosehead Insurance. We disclaim any intentions or obligations to update or revise any forward-looking statements except to the extent required by applicable law. In addition, this call is being webcast, and an archived version will be available shortly after the call ends on the Investor Relations portion of the Company's website at www.gooseheadinsurance.com. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to CEO, Mark Jones. Please go ahead.

Mark Jones

Analyst

Thanks, Garrett, and welcome to our full year and fourth quarter 2018 earnings call. Today, I'll provide an overview on the year and the quarter as well as our long-term strategy. I'll then hand the call over to our President and Chief Operating Officer, Mike Colby, who will update you on our technology investments and efforts that are facilitating our competitive advantage and ongoing rapid organic growth and profitability. Our CFO, Mark Colby, will then follow and provide more detail about the fourth quarter and full year results. Overall, 2018 was an exceptional year for Goosehead. In addition to executing one of 2018’s most successful IPOs, we continue to deliver on the rapid organic growth we stated we could achieve enabled by our robust, sustainable and cycled tested business model. We've built a truly disruptive model for the personal lines insurance industry, and our management team is executing effectively to ensure we continue to grow rapidly and responsibly to create long-term value for our shareholders. Our management team has a long history together and is fully aligned around our strategy. We're energized and committed to Goosehead achievement its full potential. I want to thank the entire Goosehead team for their hard work and effort and making 2018 a landmark year for our company. We continue to accelerate our organic growth in 2018 while maintaining strong profitability. We accomplished this by adding a large volume of new business and by maintaining industry leading renewal rates. This enabled us to fund significant investments in talent, technology, and public company expenses, and to record adjusted EBITDA margins equal to the prior year when we were privately held. For 2018, revenue grew 41% versus 2017 and we hit the $60 million mark and we did it all organically. By comparison we grew revenue 36%…

Mike Colby

Analyst

Thanks, Mark, and hello to everyone. As I noted on our last call, our technology platform is a major competitive advantage for Goosehead and is a key barrier to entry for our competition. We also discussed a number of technological advancements we are investing in that should enhance our agents' productivity and the overall client experience, ultimately contributing to growth on our top and bottom lines over the long-term. Our focus in the fourth quarter was in further building out and executing on that tech roadmap and I'll provide a brief update on where we stand. One of our most important project is the integration of our comparative rating application into our sales force platform and implementation into our sales operations. During the fourth quarter, we successfully rolled out this new functionality to three new states: Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina. So far in the first quarter, we've added four new states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York and New Jersey. And over the remainder of the first quarter, we will roll it out in Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C. and Connecticut, rounding out the states in which our agents in the mid-Atlantic and Northeast regions currently sell policies. By the end of the first quarter, we will have this technology implemented in the stage where over 80% of our new business revenue is generated. As a reminder, the comparative rater integration allows our agents to input client data and risk rating factors into one interface, eliminating approximately 75% of the required input fields, improving accuracy and saving our agents approximately 15 minutes per quote. The comparative rater significantly enhances our overall value proposition and we expect the integration to be completed in all states later this year. Closely related to our comparative rating integration is the integration with property and vehicle…

Mark Colby

Analyst

Thanks, Mike, and good afternoon to everyone on the call. Let's go right into our fourth quarter results. For the fourth quarter of 2018, we've produced a 32% increase in revenues to $14.7 million, compared to $11.1 million in the prior year period. This improvement was driven by strong growth in both our corporate and franchise channels from new and renewal business and a de minimis amount of contingent commission payments. As a reminder, we receive most of our contingent commissions in the first quarter of each year. Total written premiums during the quarter, which is a good proxy for the growth of our business, once again grew 50% year-over-year to $135.1 million. At the end of the quarter, we had over 334,000 policies in force, a 47% increase from one year ago. Our key performance indicators show consistent high year-over-year growth, which positions us well for long-term success. Total adjusted EBITDA grew 1% year-over-year to $2.3 million, while we recorded adjusted EBITDA margin of 16% compared to 20% in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA growth was driven by higher margin renewal revenue in both channels, offset by public company costs, investments in hiring and technology, and the timing of contingent commissions, specifically a large contingent commission payment that we received in the fourth quarter of 2017 was received this year during the third quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin in the fourth quarter of 2018 was impacted by the timing of contingent commission payments, public company costs, planned additional employee compensation and benefits related to the accelerated hiring of franchise sales agents, increased number of operating franchises and material investments in technology that we believe will provide us with competitive advantages and additional markets over time. Also, as noted previously, all investments we're making in talent and most of our…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Christopher Campbell with KBW. Your line is now open.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Hi, good evening gentlemen. How's it going?

Mark Jones

Analyst

Good. How are you, Chris?

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Good. I guess my first question is just on the guidance, so thank you, I think that's very helpful. And I know you gave the written premium and the revenue guidance. Any thoughts on the adjusted operating income or is that just kind of too variable with plans next year?

Michael Colby

Analyst

Chris, as you know, we’re in hyper growth mode and we're in a business where our investments tend to run through the P&L. There's very little investments that actually hits the balance sheet. And one of the things that's allowed us to be very, very successful is we've been nimble and been able to respond to opportunities as they come up. And we want to provide ourselves with flexibility so that if in our judgment, investment opportunities come up, we want to be able to – that are, we feel like are going to be in the best interest of shareholders, we want the flexibility to go after them and don't want to be sort of locked into a sort of a false sort of earnings commitment that, at the end of the day, I believe, if you look at the way our stock is valued, our investors value growth, we're going to do that responsibly. But we're not about to kind of put out an earnings number at this time.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Got it. That makes a lot of sense. And then just a question for Mark Colby. I guess, just how much of a drag were the tech costs and the public expenses on operating expenses this quarter?

Michael Colby

Analyst

Yes, so if you think back and revisit the third quarter earnings call, Chris, we talked about a few things. We talked about the timing of the contingent commission payments of about $660,000. We also talked about the housing market headwinds that we felt would have a few hundred thousand dollar impact during the fourth quarter. We talked about the initial franchise fee kind of elongation in the delay of when we can recognize those revenue and that was going to be a few hundred thousand dollars as well. We talked about the additional franchise sales team investments, which was about $0.25 million. We also talked about a few hundred thousand dollars of technology fee investments and some additional public company costs. Each one of those within the material amounts happened like we thought they would during the fourth quarter.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay, great. And then I'm just thinking about distribution growth, so franchises kind of right in line with where we thought. Corporate missed our expectations a little bit and then it was down. I guess, just any color on how you ended the year and then how that's impacting your thoughts on 2019 targets in each channel.

Mark Jones

Analyst

Yeah, we are sort of very focused and always trying to position the company to capture sort of maximum levels of profitable growth. And sometimes, that means reallocating some of our resources to roles that are going to facilitate that growth. So we did some of that in the fourth quarter where we had – we moved some people into franchise support, we moved – we made some additional investments and moved some people into sales management, and we also moved people into training. We have a really big number of people coming through training now and it's in all of our best interest to make sure that they are as well prepared as they possibly can be when they start operating their agencies or when they go live with their corporate agents. So the other thing that impacted us sort of from a revenue standpoint was these headwinds in the housing market. And during the last call, I raised that issue and I said but and – but no one heard what came after but. I said this will give us an opportunity to demonstrate that we have the capability to pivot and recover that lead volume. I think in our last call, I'm not sure too many people believed me on that, but that's in fact, exactly what we've done. We fully recovered that lead volume, so we're kind of heading into 2019 with a full head of steam and feeling very optimistic about the year.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay, great. And then just you know one quick question. I'm assuming the K comes out soon and I know last year, there were some material weaknesses around a few accounting items. Can you just give us an update on that, and then have these weaknesses been remediated this year?

Michael Colby

Analyst

Yeah, so again, the 10-K will come out, we're anticipating kind of next week, some time. But yes, we fully expect those material weaknesses to be remediated and removed from the 10-K going forward.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Great, well. Thanks for the all the answers. Best of luck for 2019.

Mark Jones

Analyst

Thanks, Chris.

Mark Colby

Analyst

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Jay Cohen with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Jay Cohen

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Great, thank you. Yeah, a couple of questions. First is, Mark, on the increase in referral partners that you had mentioned, the 500-plus in January this year versus 184 in the year earlier, is that for the whole company is that just the corporate channel?

Mark Jones

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

That’s for the whole company, Jay.

Jay Cohen

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Is it a little apples and oranges because the geographic footprint of the company is obviously bigger than it was a year ago?

Mark Jones

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

There is a – if it’s probably not completely apples to apples, but it's, at worst, it's apples to pears. I think it's quite similar. If you look at the – our business is up about 50% year-over-year or 41%, right, I am sorry…

Mark Colby

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Operating franchise…

Mark Jones

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Operating franchises are up 57% year-over-year. And some of the new referral partners were put on the boards by new agents, but others were by agents that were affected by the housing market. And when they saw their lead volume decline, we have that tool that we've kind of described in the past that has allowed them to be very focused and know exactly where the deal volume is to drive their client development efforts there. So it’s not really apples to oranges, it's pretty similar. Although when you're growing at the rate that we are, the dynamic does change a little bit year to year.

Jay Cohen

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Got it, that’s helpful. I guess, second question. With auto insurance, we're getting a sense that the price increases the carriers have been pushing over the past several years seem to be slowing, some guys cutting rates. How impactful could that be for you in 2019, a less robust auto insurance pricing environment?

Mark Jones

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

I think and I will let kind of Mark address this as well, but I think at the – if we were sort of flat and static, I think it could impact us. But the fact that we're growing at the rate that we are, we're just kind of a new business that's driven by new agents and new franchisees just so completely overwhelms small price changes in the market that I don't expect that to really have any material impact on us.

Jay Cohen

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Got it.

Mark Colby

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Yeah, and to echo Mark, we're guiding 33% to 41% revenue growth, so any kind of plus or minus a few percentage points of rate changes, we just – it's not something we focus on. It's a little bit out of our control and so we're really just focusing on continuing to hire new agents, onboard new franchises and get them ramping up to full levels of productivity.

Jay Cohen

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Got it. Got it. And then the last question, can you talk about the franchise pipeline as it sits now relative to a year ago? Has it increased, decreased, remained about the same?

Michael Colby

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Jay, this is Mike Colby. That is a very – it's a living organism, our pipeline. We're consistently adding to the pipeline and we're also killing deals that aren't viable. So it’s certainly grown. I'm not – I don't have data on the specifics of that today for this call, but we are actively growing that pipeline. I'm sorry. So if you remember, when we were going to the IPO, that number was in the kind of low 40s, 40,000 active targets in pipeline. I just got the data sent to me, 65,000 is where that pipeline sits today. So we're aggressively on the build there.

Jay Cohen

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Great, that’s helpful. Thanks guys for the answers.

Mark Jones

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Thanks, Jay.

Mark Colby

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Thanks, Jay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Adam Klauber with William Blair. Your line is now open.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Good afternoon guys. Could you give us a sense of how – in the franchise channel, how was productivity on new business for out of Texas under a year and then over a year and just if you look 2017 versus 2018?

Mark Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Yes. So we'll have some more data in the 10-K again on those metrics. The out of Texas less than a year, we saw relatively flat levels of productivity. We saw some nice improvements on the greater than one year agents out of Texas, which again, we're excited about. And again, yes, we’re continuing to be very pleased with our non-Texas production, especially considering that between 80% and 90% of the franchises we launched in 2018 were outside of Texas.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Okay. Contingent commissions, as you get more and more critical mass with a number of partners, are you a little leverage that into greater contingent commissions as we think about whether it's 2019, 2020?

Mark Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Well, our contingent commissions, Adam, are based on typically total written premium. So as we go into those conversations with carriers, we demonstrate our ability to grow profitably with them. We're looking to structure those agreements that have growth drivers, profitability drivers. Ultimately, it all comes back to the total written premium base. So we would expect those to grow as our total written premiums grows.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Okay, that’s helpful. And then as far as when you – the guidance you issued, and thank you, that's helpful. For the quarter, I think you mentioned maybe that the housing slowdown hit you by a couple of hundred thousand. Could you – for 2019, could you sort of assume a same level of depression from the housing market? Or is it more of a matter as you've grown the distribution force, you've grown the partners and the technology, that you just don't think you'll be hit next year.

Mark Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

We considered a multitude of factors when we kind of created our guidance numbers, of them growing the franchise, operating franchises, corporate sales agent headcount and then some productivity assumptions as well. We're not really guiding into any of those specific metrics specific metrics, but yes, that was all considered in our 33% to 41% revenue growth guidance.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Okay, okay. And then as far as the agent business, can you give us an idea of churn levels in 2017 versus 2018?

Michael Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Hey, Adam. This is Mike. I think our – we have normal attrition and our attrition rates have held steady over the years. So there's nothing concerning us at that point. I mean, just to reiterate Mark's comments on our corporate agents talent pool, our corporate channel and our franchise channel do not operate independently, they we operate in an integrated system. And our corporate system is – our Corporate channel really is an infrastructure to support our rapid franchise growth. And you should think about our corporate agents almost like a farm system where these agents know our products, they know our customers; they know our systems better than anybody else. So it’s a great talent pool to recruit from as we have to ramp up our back-office support, our sales leadership support, franchise support to support that rapid growth in the franchise channel.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Okay, thanks.

Michael Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

We've repurposed well over a dozen corporate agents in 2019.

Mark Jones

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

2018…

Michael Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

I am sorry, excuse me, 2018, into those roles and big part we’re getting preparing for another solid year of growth in 2019.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Okay, thanks. And then can you remind us, I think you mentioned that maybe the change in how you're reflecting the franchise fees maybe had a couple hundred thousand impact it. One, is that, right? And then two, was that mainly more of 2018 phenomenon? Will we see that somewhat in 2019? And could you just describe that a little bit more?

Mark Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Yes, definitely. So we talked in the last call that it would be a few hundred thousand dollar impact, and I think it kind of came right in line with our expectations there for Q4. We expect that to continue into the future. If we weren't growing at all, that number would kind of wash itself out over 12 months. But since we're growing at such a fast clip and consistently adding more and more franchises, we expect that delay to continue to have a slight delay in franchise fee revenue throughout 2019.

Mark Jones

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Way that we recognize franchise fee revenue right now, Adam, is when an agent comes – a franchisee comes to training, we have met our requirements for that franchise fee, and so that's when we recognize the revenue. If we're – if we have more pre-work that has – that is actually the case now before people come to training and there is – we're recruiting better agents and so they – sometimes, it takes them a little bit longer to get started because they have more to unwind in their prior career, that does kind of elongate the time between when someone starts – when someone signs and someone starts. So it effects, it doesn't affect the actual strength of the business or the growth, it's just when we can count the beans.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Right.

Mark Colby

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

That it’s important to note too, given the fixed nature of our training and on-boarding cost, that few hundred thousand dollar delay affects both top line and bottom line as well.

Adam Klauber

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Sure, sure, okay. That’s it. Thanks guys.

Mark Jones

Analyst · William Blair. Your line is now open.

Thanks, Adam.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And we have a follow-up question from the line of Jay Cohen with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

Jay Cohen

Analyst

Thank you. I guess, as a bigger picture question, what do you think the best way is for investors to – for investors to evaluate your success? Is it revenue, is it agents? Should we essentially for the next couple of years not focus that much in margins, given the investments? How do you want people to evaluate you?

Mark Jones

Analyst

Well, at the end of day, Jay, this is a gigantic business and we're really in land grab mode. We don't have any, like, truly similar competitors to us. There is literally not another company in the business that has figured out how to drive sustained, high-levels of profitable organic growth, and so it's very unique. I'm not smart enough to tell you exactly how we should be valued, but I do think that it's probably nothing like the way that the publicly-traded commercial brokers are valued where 6% organic growth is considered good. I mean, we would hang our heads if that's all we could do.

Jay Cohen

Analyst

Yeah, I am not thinking valuation. I'm not thinking valuation, I'm thinking more metrics. At the end of the year, in 2019, you guys mentioned that we had a really good year. What are the metrics that you will be focused on? It sounds less like earnings, it's more some sort of production, either premiums or agent count or revenues.

Mark Jones

Analyst

I think it’s a combination of things. I think premium is the probably single best macro metric to evaluate us on. Revenues are going to lag that a little bit because on franchise – revenue in the franchise channel, we can only – we only receive 20% of that in the first year. And so our revenue is always going to understate our kind of our true growth. But premium is probably the best single metric, revenue is probably the next. And I think year-over-year, franchise growth, agent growth are also relevant.

Jay Cohen

Analyst

Got it.

Mark Jones

Analyst

But they’re…

Jay Cohen

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I am showing no further questions in the queue at this time. So with that I will turn the call back over to Chairman and CEO, Mark Jones for closing remarks.

Mark Jones

Analyst

Again, I would like to thank everyone that on the call for their interest in our company. We appreciate your interest and for many of you your support. We’re going to continue to work really hard and you’re going have a management team that continues to leave everything on the field every day. And we're very proud of what we're doing and we hope to make you very proud and pleased with your investment in Goosehead. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.