Darren Lampert
Analyst · Oppenheimer
I think there is a couple different functions, Brian, to start with, a lot of the facilities do need to be refurbished. Like GrowGen, a lot of our of our customers have been extremely concerned about their balance sheets as we have. And they have pushed you know, they have pushed refurbishment and building, you know, out another year or a year longer than they could have. So I think everyone's been managing balance sheets. But the other side of it, you know, we do believe that with rescheduling, the amount of money coming back into this industry, anywhere between 1 billion and 2 back onto balance sheets, I mean, people are looking for more efficient ways to grow and there are more efficient products out there today. Most of our customers are growing much more efficiently than they used to. Getting many more, getting more pounds per light than they used to, ounces per light. So it is this trade off that you are starting to see. But on the other side of it also, you know, GrowGen is well positioned from a balance sheet side to lend money to our customers and to help them refurbish facilities. So I think it is coming from everywhere. Which we are also starting to see as you probably heard from the MSOs, that supply demand is starting to come into balance. With rescheduling on the medical side, there is talk about you know, some certain of our companies, the MSOs, exporting cannabis over into the European markets. Which will bring, again, less supply offline here So, hopefully, prices stabilize to start going back up. You know, we have not seen the industry in this shape since 2021. And I am a firm believer right now. You know, most of the companies that are in business that are doing well that have retained balance sheets, they are going to be around for a long time to come. You are going to see a tremendous sea change in this industry. And I do believe from our side of it, from the equipment side of it, GrowGen's going to lead it. We have changed this business tremendously. We have hired facility advisers, technical advisers. We have groups of GrowGen employees going into facilities on a daily basis, helping with grows, recommending different products to our customers. So the business is just tremendously different. You know, we are down to 19 facilities right now from 65. And what you saw in the first quarter was year over year growth with 12 less facilities. And I think we have been pretty transparent that usually when we close when we close facilities, we have been losing up to 50% of walk in business. So you are still seeing revenue growth on that side, with many less stores. So revenue growth that you are seeing in the first quarter, albeit small, was really greater than it was And we believe you will you will see this growth throughout the year. 1 of the exciting parts even, you know, you are seeing you know, on the expense side, the expenses coming down but you are you are seeing revenue starting to go up. And we think we are just-- we think this is a reset. Like anything else, Brian. We spent from 2021 to 2026 resetting GrowGen. And we believe right now, we are in that position right now where you will see, you know, you will see quarters over growth, and you will see GrowGen returning to where it was back in, you know, back in February.