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Canada Goose Holdings Inc. (GOOS)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 2, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Canada Goose Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Amy Schwalm, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Amy Schwalm

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With me are Dani Reiss, Chairman and CEO; Jonathan Sinclair, EVP and CFO; and Carrie Baker, President. Our call today, including the Q&A portion, contains forward-looking statements. Each forward-looking statement, including our financial outlook is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. Certain material factors and assumptions were considered and applied in making these forward-looking statements. Additional information regarding these statements, factors and assumptions is available in our press release issued this morning, as well as the Risk Factors section of our most recent annual report filed with the securities regulators. These documents are also available on the Investor Relations section of our website. The forward-looking statements made on this call speak only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise them. Lastly, our commentary includes certain non-IFRS financial measures, which are reconciled at the end of our press release. With that, I will turn over the call to Dani.

Dani Reiss

Analyst

Thanks, Amy, and good morning, everyone. I'll start by saying that we are heading into our most important season, and we are well positioned across our business to drive and capture demand globally. There is no doubt that the macroeconomic backdrop continues to present challenges, but I'm very confident that the strong underlying fundamentals of our business will help us navigate them well. This morning, we released our results for the second quarter of fiscal 2023, which beat our expectations. However, despite our strong performance in the quarter, we are not seeing the level of improvement we had assumed in Mainland China, COVID-related disruption, including mall closures, lockdowns and travel restrictions continue to impact traffic. And as we head into our most meaningful quarter, we are seeing these disruptions affect an increasing number of cities in which we operate. As a result, we have updated our outlook for the year, which Jonathan will cover in further detail shortly. Let me be clear. Our brand remains strong in Mainland China, regardless of the temporary headwinds. We saw this brand strength during the holiday period, week in October and more recently, leading up to single day in November where both traffic and sales trended positive across our network. These holidays have historically been meaningful shopping events, and that has continued for our brand. This gives me confidence in our long-term vision demand and brand strength as we move forward. Regardless of temporary challenges we may face, our focus for the remainder of the year is clear. We will continue to execute against our long-term strategy, growing our DTC mix, deepening our presence in new and existing markets and growing our performance luxury offerings. Now turning back to the quarter. Top line revenue grew 19% to just over $277 million. On a constant…

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

Thank you, Dani, and good morning, everyone. Today, I shall be comparing with second quarter ended October 3, 2022 with the prior-year quarter, which ended September 26, 2021, unless I say otherwise. I will be quoting reported growth rates as well as growth on a constant currency basis where it is meaningfully different and available. As Dani mentioned, total revenue grew 19% and 22.3% on a constant currency basis to $277.2 million in the quarter. This growth came from continued outperformance in North America as well as growth in Wholesale. DTC revenue increased 15.6% or 18.5% in constant currency to $94.8 million. We enjoyed the benefits of continued retail expansion and an increase in existing store sales in North America and in EMEA. Asia-Pacific continued to be impacted by COVID restrictions, which reduced store traffic through store closures, restricted store hours, mass testing and mandatory quarantines to name but a few of the factors and their consequences. DTC comparable sales declined by 4%. Excluding Mainland China, DTC comparable sales growth was 3.2%. This quarter last year, Mainland China DTC revenue was up 86% with materially less COVID restrictions in place. Wholesale revenue increased 21.2% or 24.7% on a constant currency basis to $180.7 million related to earlier shipments requested by customers and an increase in order book value, particularly in Europe. Fulfilling orders to our wholesale partners helps us drive a better operating experience for the end customer and in turn, creates the potential for higher sell-through and reorders. Importantly, the earlier timing of shipments represents a full return to normalized shipping patterns pre-pandemic. Turning to performance by geography. Revenue increased in North America and in EMEA, while Asia-Pacific declined slightly. The gap between reported and constant currency growth arose with 30.3% of our revenue denominated in Canadian Dollars this…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. One moment for our first question. It comes from the line of Ike Boruchow with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Irwin Boruchow

Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone. A question for Dani, and then I have one follow-up. I guess, Dani, just at a high level, the prior guidance you had indicated, I think the low end included some limited disruption in China. We're clearly getting more than that right now. I think that's pretty much a macro dynamic we're seeing with all of our brands. But I guess how do you keep a finger on the pulse of the brand heat you have over in Mainland China today? Is there anything you could talk to, to help us understand just exactly your vision for the brand overseas once these transitory pressures kind of subside?

Dani Reiss

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Ike, for the question. And yes, I think that there are absolutely a number of macro factors, including the ones in China that are affecting our brand and I think all brands at this time. I think -- our brand is very strong. I'm very confident in the strength of our brand in China and around the world in all of our markets. I can point to specific things for example, I mean I think Jonathan spoke to in the script, but very importantly, when the market is able to function normally -- in a normal way, such as -- or was during Golden Week our brand performed normally, as we would normally expect it to perform. Similarly, leading up to the Singles Day event of 11/11. We're seeing extremely strong sign of performance. And I think those are the sorts of things that encourage all of us that I think that our brand continues to be strong in China. Further to that, if we -- to talk about China specifically, we continue to sign leases with landlords in the most important mall and the most important places, which just reaffirms their confidence in our brand and the extent to which our brand drives traffic to their malls. If that went off the case, they would not be sign those leases with us. So it is unfortunate that these COVID headwinds and economic headwinds that are impacting the world and China today are, in fact, doing so. But -- we all know that these macro conditions will pass, and I'm extremely confident that once they do, our brand is very well positioned and very well beloved by the global consumer to continue on its growth trajectory.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And it comes from the line of Michael Binetti with Credit Suisse. Please proceed.

Michael Binetti

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking our question here. Can you speak to the cost control measures you spoke to for second half? Maybe just to highlight what a couple of those buckets are? It looks like the new guidance thinks about -- I think the new guidance is about $590 million to $650 million of SG&A for the year previously $620 million, $680 million. So a meaningful cut. And I'm mostly curious what are the buckets that might have to come back next year if the environment is better? And then on -- I guess just anything we can hear on China on the stores that you've opened over there, what does productivity look like in those stores when COVID lockdowns are not in place? Just to get a sense of how the business is tracking? Thank you.

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Mike. So I think when it comes to the cost control measures, all businesses have discretionary spend. We're very, very focused on making sure that we are targeting our spend on the strategic initiatives in the business to secure the future growth, and that has not changed. But at the same time, we are making sure that we're super careful on the decisions that we're making and that we're only investing where it's going to make the difference, either for this year or the next. And therefore, we've tightened up across the piece in that and whether you're talking about the head count that you're talking about the discretionary spend, that's really a very strong focus, and it's a very strong discipline in this business. Add to that the fact that there are variable costs in the business as well, whether we're talking about rents or credit card commissions or various store labor components that typically do vary in line with revenue, and therefore, you've got a further component there. The one other thing I would say, we are maintaining our marketing investment in this business. It's very important for the brand. It's very important that we drive demand. Otherwise, we're trying to do other way to glory in a way that's not feasible. So that's the other component. When the stores are open in China taking -- moving to your second point, Actually, we're seeing really good productivity. We're seeing performance in line with expectations, both in our existing stores and in the new ones. But unfortunately, it's just the windows when that can happen at the moment or rather than [Technical Difficulty].

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. And it comes from the line of Oliver Chen with Cowen. Please go ahead.

Oliver Chen

Analyst

Hi, thank you. Good morning Dani and Jonathan. As we think about China and Asia going forward, what are things within your control? And is the guidance reset enough in terms of what you're seeing? I know it's a very dynamic situation there, a lot of uncontrollable factors. And is there any interplay with your digital footprint? And Jonathan, I would love a few thoughts on Europe as inflation is a factor. However, you expressed some optimism or a solid luxury consumer there as well? Thank you.

Dani Reiss

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for your question. And yes, I think the things that within our control are the extent to which we deploy our marketing resources against e-commerce versus our bricks-and-mortar stores, and then we're going to continue to do that. I think that one of the reasons why the range you talked about being a wide range. I think one of the reasons why is that is really difficult to predict the span of outcomes over the next few months in the region and even in the world with regards to the macroeconomic situation and political and geopolitical situations that exist. One thing I do not to be true over the last 25 years of being in this business is that October is bigger -- September and November is bigger than October and December is bigger than November. I believe that, that is something that is I'm going to remain to each of it this year. And the variables that will control the degree to which that is true is going to depend on some of the things that are outside of our control. And we'll continue to focus on those things that are within our control.

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

I think when it comes to Europe, our results were -- I'm going to start by talking about our results well just the prospects. Our results were mostly in line with our expectations. We've launched a new website right at the end of the quarter, which to service the European region. We're very excited about the initial performance there. We see that as having significant scope for growth. We're also looking forward to the launch of omnichannel services starting in the U.K., and we see that also as being important. When we consider the performance of the stores in the quarter, actually, each of the stores by one and then only slightly were up. So one was very slightly down and the rest of them were all up. So actually, we're seeing really good health in the region, and we see that as grounds for optimism even if we're saying when about the macroeconomic environment.

Carrie Baker

Analyst

Just one point to add on that is I think one other point that looks to our confidence in the brand is just our strong wholesale order book just both in price and volume. So that is a huge sign of us -- for us in terms of their continued strength in addition to what we already saw in stores.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question please. And it comes from the line of Omar Saad with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.

Omar Saad

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to dive in deeper around some of your comments in North America. It's another pickup [Technical Difficulty] being there. Are you getting indications in markets where weather is getting cold in some of that reacceleration? You also mentioned that kind of Quest West, maybe you could talk a little bit more about the balance of your business across North America from East to West? And when I kind of put some numbers around what that opportunity could mean? And then also in North America, are you seeing more new customers coming into the brand? Or is it the growth you're seeing more existing customers buying more from the brand, new categories, transitional wear et cetera? Thanks.

Carrie Baker

Analyst

Thanks for the question. I think when you look at North America, I mean, the growth is happening everywhere. So I'll answer your last question first. The new customers that Dani talked to you, our new campaign that focus on women with a new collection. We're so happy to see, it's attracting a new female customer. That doesn't mean it's not resonating with the existing customers. We're just -- it's the faster growth is happening with new customers. Our Quest West, again, our health in North America is we're seeing it across channels. I think we're seeing it across regions. It's just there's more white space opportunity as we go West and introduce our brand in a different way, though. Seasonality plays a factor there. They're also -- I think I talked about this last quarter. People in West are not just coming to us for the first product being a winter product. They're coming into lightweight down. They're coming into west. So they're really seeing a variety. And so we're able to present more fulsome view of what Canada Goose as a luxury lifestyle brand is and they're picking up on that. So I think bottom line, I think we have lots of growth in North America and hope to see that continue throughout the rest of the year.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question please. And it comes from the line of Brooke Roach with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

Brooke Roach

Analyst

Good morning. And thank you so much for taking our question. You mentioned a wide range of outcomes that are possible over the next few months, which certainly makes sense based on the current environment. Can you help us flush out the assumptions embedded for both China and the rest of the world on like-for-like comps and contribution from new stores that drive the high end versus the low end of the updated sales guidance range? And then perhaps talk to the level of conservatism that's now embedded for China closures as a function of COVID versus some of these other unknowable macro pressures in other regions? Thank you.

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

Yes. I think -- thanks for the question, Brooke. I think it's really important to try and understand it. So in the end, what we're seeing is one particular set of circumstances -- trend from what we were expecting. And that's what's going on in Mainland China. So as a result, the impact is on our Mainland China business, and it's not on the other components. Obviously, the other components under sort of North America and Europe have a more challenging economic backdrop. But fundamentally, they're performing in the way that we've expected them to do. Now within Mainland China, our business is down, and we expect it to stay down with [Technical Difficulty]. And so if you listen to the sort of range of slightly negative to slightly positive in terms of the overall DTC expectation, we would be in range. So for what we talked about originally, which is those high teens were it not for the Chinese business being under so much pressure. So you can see there what the size of the headwind, which in this quarter in like-for-like terms is around 7% is actually expected to be bigger going forward. And that's what's baked into these assumptions.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question please. And it comes from the line of Jay Sole with UBS. Please proceed.

Jay Sole

Analyst

Great. Thank you so much. Would it be possible to elaborate on sort of what your store opening plans are for next year just at a high level in terms of the stores you've already commented to in some leases for? And then maybe just going back to China. Can you just talk about e-commerce trends, specifically in China? I know you touched on this, but just to elaborate, what kind of growth rate you're seeing online and if you've seen any kind of transfer from stores to online as stores have been closed? Thank you.

Dani Reiss

Analyst

Thanks, Jay for your question. In terms of store opening plans, I mean, we have nothing new to announce specifically in terms of what stores we're going to be opening. I think it's fair, though, that you expect us to continue to open stores at more or less the same pace that we've been opening to them this year, last year and so forth, we will always wait for the best real estate to come available and be patient in for that to happen. And when that happens, we will -- we have the bandwidth and the capacity to open a larger number of stores that we need to in a year, and we're prepared to open a smaller number of that's the faster right thing to do. We're always going to keep in mind the right thing for the brand for the long-term health of the brand, so that we will be a meaningful player in this space for decades to come. I think with regards to China -- I would think regards to China, I think that -- I think that it's reasonable to expect that as the busy season ramps up, an inability to store -- an ability to -- or and willingness to go out to stores could certainly result in the transfer to more online sales, but that speculation, and it's hard to 100% predict to the degree to which that will happen. Certainly, we'll do our best to encourage people to shop wherever they're comfortable shopping and making sure that they are aware of that the inventory is available and that -- and they can do that.

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

Yes. And I'd add to that, that perhaps unsurprisingly, China was by far our best performing website business within the second quarter. It's held its own at a time when business was heavily down. And that trend is something that we see continuing at the moment, because clearly, it's the most as Dani says, it's the most comfortable way for people to shop. And certainly our initial steps towards 11/11 and Singles Day are very encouraging.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question please. And the next question is from Mark Petrie with CIBC. Your question please.

Mark Petrie

Analyst

Yes, thanks. Good morning. I think, Carrie, you mentioned just talking about the wholesale business a little bit. And I just wanted to follow-up on that, obviously, a point of strength in Q2, but I know a channel that you continue to manage very closely. So I guess two questions. Does the greater macro uncertainty make you think any differently about the role of Wholesale and within your business and sort of the penetration level and sort of business mix? And then specific to this fiscal year, is there any appreciable difference in both the number of doors and then also the depth that you're getting at your Wholesale accounts in terms of the assortment? Thanks.

Carrie Baker

Analyst

Thanks, Mark. Wholesale, no. So sure, we manage it closely with our partners and in line with their expectations. But it hasn't changed fundamentally in terms of the role it plays in the ability to serve our customers where they're shopping. I think for us, I mean, it's always been to use a Jonathan-term of a managed economy. So we work with them, they don't give them everything they want nor will read. So that won't change, but I think it's a matter of working with them, making sure they're set up for a really good holiday season, which they are. We were able to pull forward and move shipments earlier. And so they were very excited to have that product available. And I think that there hasn't been any significant change. Again, we're always editing around the edges but there hasn't been any sort of significant changes in terms of the number of doors or where we're playing.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question please. And it comes from the line of Adrienne Yih with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Adrienne Yih

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Two questions, one on the Wholesale DTC mix and the geo mix. On the Wholesale piece of it, $180 million, how much of that was earlier shipments? And Jonathan, you said that this is the normalization -- the after normalizing the pattern of shipments, so from this point forward, we should expect sort of irregularity kind of on a year-to-year basis? So that's my first question.

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

Yes. I mean the answer is if you think about wholesale, and it's growing at 6% for the year, the reality is, therefore, that the timing difference is coming up is the component that is above 6%. That's timing is on that we anticipated, and some of it got up by customers to be beyond that, and that's how we end up here. I think that when it comes to normalization, the whole -- you're exactly right to interpret it the way I've said, which is that meaning that this is normalized absent anything else changing, that's sort of the shape we'd expect going forward.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our last question one moment please. And it comes from the line of Robert Ohmes with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Robert Ohmes

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. My question is for probably Jonathan. Can you talk a little bit about the inventory levels you expect going forward? I think you guys mentioned production coming back online. You're acquiring some offshore production earlier. And obviously, the sales forecast has been lowered about $100 million. Just how should we think of inventory levels for the next couple of quarters? And then maybe connected to that, is there a scenario where you would maybe need to become a little bit more of a promotional brand or do more in the off-price channel?

Jonathan Sinclair

Analyst

So I think that let's start with the fact that this is not a promotional brand, and that's a core part of the strategy of the brand. Robby, honestly, I just don't see that changing. Our inventory is healthy. The model that we operate to here, as you'll recall, is very much one which is a continuative evergreen model. So a very high proportion of what we sell continue -- its continuative and goes from season to season. And that's something that isn't new. And it means that it becomes a hedge against inflation. It reflects the fact that we're our own manufacturer as well. Our normal expectation and -- to some extent, this is how we would expect it to pan out is that revenue growth and inventory growth should move more or less in mind. That said, of course, this year, we've got a bit of distortion from Japan. But I think that's the right way to expect this to go. Clearly, revenue volatility will have some impact. You've got to remember that the gross margins in this business are quite wide. And therefore, and what we're talking about here is DTC volatility. So the most volatility that you're going to see [Technical Difficulty] is $25 million of cost of goods.

Operator

Operator

And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we close our Q&A and conference for today. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect. Good day.