Thomas McInerney
Management
Those are great questions, Josh. And so the first one, in terms of CareScout, we look at the coverage by ZIP Code. And so depending -- obviously, you would expect in those ZIP codes in bigger cities, there will be several providers in the network in that area. As you get to the more rural areas, I mentioned we were in 49 states. The one state we're not fully in yet is Wyoming. Obviously, it's a more rural state. . So, there obviously are ZIP codes that are -- where they're less populated and therefore, there are less 65-plus year-olds less Genworth policyholders. So on those ZIP codes, it would probably more typical that you might only have one, maybe two providers. So, that's basically how it works. And the second part of the question was touch points with insurers and policyholder. Yes. So touch points with insurance and policyholders. For our policyholders, we obviously communicate with them regularly, and we have been since we started the journey with CareScout services have been telling them about the network. When someone files a claim, obviously, we work to assess the claim determine if coverage applies. And then through that process, which takes on average 20 to 30 days. We'll talk about who are the providers in the network the discounts they provide, and that's out done. The last several months were with the click policyholders. We've been doing more than 100 per month of masses between the policyholder going on claim in the network. For the direct-to-consumer, from a broader perspective, we'll be marketing that this network is available in these states. Most of the providers are below the median cost of care in the state or the ZIP code and we credential for quality on 20 different dimensions. So, I think our whole value proposition there is we're taking all of the time and effort to find a provider away from the person needing care or typically their family. And at the same time, whatever the rate would be per hour for Home Care. Again, generally, we're getting significant discounts, 20% is sort of been where we've been out for most of the policyholders. Obviously, for the direct-to-consumer, where they don't have insurance, the savings are very significant since they're paying. So, we're very optimistic going forward. We got to first complete the network. We said by the end of the year, we want to be at 85% coverage. That's -- for practical purposes, that's pretty full coverage. There are always going to be, whether it's Wyoming or Montana, Idaho, other states like that, where we'll take time to fill in the gaps. So we think at 85%. That will be pretty much effective nationwide coverage -- and once we have that, we'll then begin to accelerate our marketing plans to let consumers in general know that the network is available.