John Wobensmith
Management
I think you are aware, we don't trade FFAs. So I don't see there any, I don't see that being put into place now. Look, to get the maximum benefit out of scrubbers, you really need to be trading on a voyage basis. So, I would tell you that will be our strategy and as we look at the second half of 2019, all the way through 2020, a couple of things, we think, are going to happen. One, we think the maximum spread between high sulfur fuel oil and the ships that have scrubbers and the ability to burn that, versus low sulfur fuel oil, will probably be at its widest towards the end of this year and then going into the first half of next year. So we want to be in the position to take advantage of that 100%. As we look at the supply-demand dynamics, again for the second half of this year and all of 2020, we are obviously positive. We believe Vale will start to come back and get a lot of their operations back up and going, as we get towards the end of this year and certainly into 2020. So we think that's a positive factor and we're, as Pete mentioned, where the price of iron ore is today, they are certainly incentivized to do that as quickly as they can, from a regulatory standpoint. Low net fleet growth projected only 1.5% next year, that is at, I mean, that's definitely at a historical low. So that's why we also remain positive. And then just going back to your question on the time charter side, it is interesting, we've seen a few time charters done on Capes now for 1 year, anywhere from $16,750 a day to a little more than $17,000 a day. So I think that bodes well for the confidence in the Capesize market going forward from the chartering side. Even though we will be putting scrubbers on, we will clearly look at this opportunistically and if there comes an opportunity at the end of this year and into next year to put tonnage away and we can still get the economics that we want from the scrubbers, we will certainly do that.