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Globus Medical, Inc. (GMED)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 3, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to Globus Medical's Third Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all lines will be on mute and a Q&A session will be held after the prepared remarks. I will now turn the call over to Brian Kearns, Vice President of Business Development. Please go ahead.

Brian Kearns - Vice President of Business Development

Management

Thank you for being with us today. Joining today's call from Globus Medical will be David Paul, Chairman and CEO; Dan Scavilla, Senior Vice President and CFO; Anthony Williams, President of Globus Medical; and Dave Demski, Group President of Emerging Technologies. This review is being made available via webcast accessible through the Investor Relations section of the Globus Medical website at www.globusmedical.com. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the statements made during this review are or may be considered forward-looking statements. Our Form 10-K for the 2014 fiscal year and our subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission identify certain factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements made today. Our SEC filings, including the 10-K, are available on our website. We do not undertake to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events or developments. Our discussion today will also include certain financial measures that are not calculated in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAAP. We believe these non-GAAP financial measures provide additional information pertinent to our business performance. These non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered replacements for and should be read together with the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available in the schedule accompanying the press release and on the Investor Relations section of the Globus Medical website. With that, I will now turn the call over to David Paul, our Chairman and CEO. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Brian, and good evening, everyone. The third quarter of 2015 was an outstanding period for Globus. Sales were a record $137 million, increasing 16.4% on an as-reported basis and 17.6% on…

Operator

Operator

And our first question comes from the line of Matt Miksic.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Can you hear me okay? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: We can hear you, Matt.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question. So really pretty amazing, I thought, acceleration. I don't use that word often on conference calls, but could you talk a little bit about maybe some of the catalysts here in the quarter? And where in particular you saw some of the strength that we saw in the numbers here? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Matt, we saw strength both in some of the new products that we have introduced over the last 18 months. CREO, CREO MIS has been very strong. ALTERA, COALITION AGX and RISE-L have also picked it up a lot for us. At the same time, we have also seen tremendous growth from some of our sales force additions. So it's been a combination of both new product cycle flows and sales force expansion.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

I know you don't drill the detail down within Disruptive, but it looks like it was sort of the U.S. Disruptive business that was seeing most of that strength? Is that fair? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: That's fair to say, yes.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

And in MIS in particular? Or not all the products it strikes me that you mentioned fit into MIS. Or do they all fall into that MIS category? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: No. CREO falls into Innovative Fusion, but we look at CREO MIS and some of the other expandable technologies into the Disruptive bucket and so they have been doing extremely well for us. Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Matt, this is Dan. One thing that's really nice with this as well is that growth in Disruptive is not particular to one or two products. There are really several products with strong growth that are contributing to that lift year-on-year.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

I guess just with that color, one of the questions I get often is are the dynamics from your perspective competitively changing either in the way that larger players are behaving in the marketplace or sort of the interplay between some of the faster-growing, more innovative companies like yourself? Is there anything that you are seeing in the landscape that's shifting that would contribute to this? Or is it from your perspective just straight-ahead execution? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: I think for the most part it's straight-ahead execution. Frankly, we've also been helped by a more healthy market in recent quarters. But for the most part, it's been straight-ahead execution with the new products and sales force expansion.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

And if I could ask just one question on some of your new products going forward. You talked about robotics and you've also talked a little bit about trauma as an area of investment. Could you give us a bit more color or timing as to when, you know – I understand we will see some of this at your Analyst Meeting. Maybe what we can expect there and then maybe what we can expect over the next 6 months to 12 months?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

Hey, Matt. This is Dave Demski. We're going to the FDA with – our plan is to go to the FDA early part of next year with the robotics platform as well as some of the initial products in Orthopedic Trauma should start to get into the FDA next year. So depending on how well we do there and get through there, we would be looking to commercialize those and get a sales force built towards the end of next year.

Matt Miksic - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks so much. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Matt.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of David Roman. David Harrison Roman - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Thank you and good afternoon, everybody. I wanted to follow up, Dan, on your comment regarding the Branch Medical contribution expected for 2016. I think you referenced a number of $5.5 million. But if I try to put that into context and what you're seeing from a pricing perspective, if you're seeing 2% to 3% negative price, so that would be a $10 million to $15 million headwind to the top line. Branch doesn't get you to a point where gross margins would not be down next year. Is that the correct way to think about it? And what am I missing in that analysis? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: David, you're partially there. So a couple of things with this. With Branch, what I'm signaling to you is we are going to see the lift we've actually not only modeled through but actually announced in Q4 of 2014 when we went through and told this. It's on track. As I've said out in the field, the benefit of Branch will be a counter-lever to pricing pressures and biologic mix. So we think it's out there. It's one of those items that will help us maintain the mid-70%s GPs that we're striving for and the mid-30%s EBITDA that we're going for. So it may not be the full answer. It's a big lever for us to use in a positive way to go against what we concede with those other items. David Harrison Roman - Goldman Sachs & Co.: So as you think about the total P&L algorithm as you continue to hire salespeople, face pricing pressure and mix headwinds from biologics and invest in…

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Bob Hopkins.

Robert Adam Hopkins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. Can you hear me okay? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: We can hear you, Bob.

Robert Adam Hopkins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Oh, great. Sorry for the background noise. I'm out at a conference. So just a couple quick follow-ups on the questions that have already been asked. So the first question relates to the comments on margins really and the 35% EBITDA margin. You guys have an exciting pipeline. You're investing in that pipeline. 2016, I just wonder if you could comment to the degree to which that's going to be an investment year. Can you maintain the 35% EBITDA margin in 2016 if you're growing in the high-single digits, or is 2016 going to be a year where that margin will be a little bit on the lower side, given some of the investments that are necessary to drive long-term growth? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: So, Bob, we've been increasing our transparency as we go through this and certainly coming out with the emerging technologies and explaining some of those investments are there. I would tell that our goal and our focus based on the plans that we have is to maintain that mid-35% EBITDA as we invest with the emerging technologies and do the ramp-ups. There's certainly levers we have. There's others we need to discover, but as a management team our focus is to maintain that as we do the investments required to enter into those $10 billion market opportunities David spoke of.

Robert Adam Hopkins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay. So that was a comment not only for the long term but for next year? Again, I don't think this is that big of a deal. I just want to be clear on whatever you're saying about 2016. I understand some investments are needed. But you think in 2016 you can shoot to maintain a mid-30s% margin despite the investment? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Based on where we're going and the amounts that we have right now, we would say the mid-30%s is within range of what we're aiming to do in 2016.

Robert Adam Hopkins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Great. And then one last follow-up. David, you mentioned management changes in two geographies and how that helped the business. I was wondering if you could talk about that in a little more detail and also specifically just give us a sense as to where you are right now with international. You had a pretty good growth quarter this quarter. Do you think you're on solid footing there? Can we see growth continue to improve outside the United States? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: So first, overall the international environment remains challenging. And as you've noticed, some of our competitors who have announced their results have also had the same kind of struggles. And while we're not fully happy with where we are with our international performance, I feel like we'll still outperform most of our peers there. The challenges that we've had internally have been in a couple of markets that we quickly followed up to address and we're beginning to see changes. In one, we have seen a full-scale sea change. In another the change is more slowly happening and I think we'll be in a good position to begin re-acceleration of our sales growth in international markets.

Robert Adam Hopkins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Great. Thank you. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Bob.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Bijou.

Craig William Bijou - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Hi, Craig.

Craig William Bijou - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

I did want to touch on your comments on trauma. And obviously you guys are – you're not in trauma today, so I wanted to see if you could discuss the opportunity that you guys see in trauma given some of the competitive dynamics? And then is there any read-through or any signal to anything that we could read through for the spine market or Globus' position within the spine market because of the investment in or the focus on trauma going forward?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

Hey, Craig. This is Dave Demski. We look at the orthopedic trauma market as about a $4 billion opportunity with some pretty significant competition. We think what we've done with Globus over the last 13 years is bring innovation, particularly mechanically engineering-driven innovation, to a market with clinical needs. And we see orthopedic trauma as very similar to that and an area of opportunity for us to take that core competency and apply it to a very large market and take market share in a fashion similar to what we've done with the Spine business. I think your question maybe as regards to focus, we have an extremely strong team in the core Spine business. Most of the senior executives have been with us 10 years or more. And I see the runway there as being very attractive. Particularly with the larger competitors losing their focus, I think we can continue to outpace the market for the foreseeable future and core Spine as well.

Craig William Bijou - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

I guess just as a follow-up on that, I mean do you guys see it as necessary just in terms of the future of the spine market or potential bundling down the road to get broader within orthopedics through trauma? Or is it trauma-specific an area where you think you can have an impact?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

We don't see it as necessary to compete in the Spine business at all. We just think it's an opportunity for us to apply a core competency at a very attractive market that's kind of had less innovation than some other areas in the past. And we think we can bring some benefits to physicians and patients there.

Craig William Bijou - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And then, Dan, just one quick one for you. I know that I think on the last call you talked about plans for potentially lowering the tax rate down the road. I just wanted to see if there was any update on the plan and how that fits as a priority for the business? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Thanks, Craig. Well, I'll tell you, yeah, there is a plan. We're actually in due diligence right now where we've selected a partner we want to work with from one of the top accounting firms. We're breaking down how we want to execute U.S. and international, we're testing the feasibility actually right now through Q4. And if it progresses well, I think we're going to be in a position to start implementing this early into 2016. I don't have numbers yet to tell you impacts. I wouldn't build it into my base just yet. But what we see is identifiable and promising, and like I said, I think in about a month's time we'll be further along with the management team, the board, as to the right steps to take here.

Craig William Bijou - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks for taking the questions, guys. Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Thanks. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Craig.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Richard Newitter.

Unknown Speaker

Analyst

Hi. This is Robbie (28:25) in for Rich. How are you all doing? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Good. How are you?

Unknown Speaker

Analyst

Hi. Thank you for taking the questions. So a couple on the EBITDA margins. First, I was hoping you could give us a range around what you consider mid-30%s, what the range is on the EBITDA margin? And then how you see that fluctuating, say, in an investment year and a leverage year? And should we think about 2016 being an investment year? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: So, Robbie (28:53), one thing I've always said when we're out on the road is mid-30%s is going to be 33% to 37%. There's a swing by quarter that will occur there because we won't run it quarter by quarter. We're going to invest for the long term. The 2016 investment year, we're still striving to be in that 34% to 35% range, towards the upper end of that. But somewhere flexing there and depending how we scale up and when we scale up. That's really what we see based on the plans we have right now.

Unknown Speaker

Analyst

Great. And then maybe one on guidance. Fourth quarter I guess with your new guidance implies a little bit of growth or deceleration. I know that you're expecting the TTOT to annualize there. Anything in the quarter that would imply anything worse than the deceleration that I think about 8% or so, or 7% to 8%? Any trends that we should be aware of there? Or it seems like you're being conservative there. Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Well, a couple of things. When you look at the $539 million number, it's roughly a 14% year-on-year growth. And again, you're in a 3% market, so when you look at that amount about pacing and share, which I think is conservative, we are, to your point, anniversarying TTOT, and we will see that impact occur in Q4. But we do not see outside of currency and the anniversarying of TTOT any headwinds that are new for Q4. And we'll always look to surpass. But right now this is the right conservative approach with what we see in front of us.

Unknown Speaker

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Jonathan Demchick. Jonathan Demchick - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Hello. Thanks for taking the questions. Wanted to follow up on a few of the questions that were I guess asked on Trauma. I assume that most of the investments to date have been more on the product side of things. But how should we think about the investments that are going to be made – that are going to need to be made, I guess, on the sales side. Is the expectation that you'd want to – is Trauma really the main target for M&A at this point? Or is that one of your primary lookings there?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

Thanks, Jonathan. This is Dave Demski again. Yes. To date all of the expenses have been related to product development and getting some products to the FDA. As we get closer and we get more products in the bag or anticipated, we will begin to build a sales force. That's a different call point, a different set of physicians, so it will be a separate sales force and we will be hiring from the ground up there. That will probably be more towards the end of next year. But we are actively looking for acquisitions that make sense to get us a jumpstart on that market and some momentum. We have not gotten very close to anything at this point but we are very active in looking. Jonathan Demchick - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thank you. And just a quick follow-up for Dan. Obviously, international is not a major part of your all's business, but clearly FX has still been a pretty major impact across the board. How should we be thinking about the actual earnings and margin impact that FX pressures have been placing on you guys this year so we can think about more organically how margins have trended? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Well, that's what we were saying in there, Jon, was you know, what I had found after we had looked at this a little deeper is, while we have about 1 point, 1.5 points of top-line impact with the FX, it was much bigger on the bottom line, more towards that 3%. And so once you do look at that, really what I want to signal to the group is our top and bottom line, even with the investments in emerging technology, are growing at par, even certainly above. What we're seeing in this year in particular is that erosion due to the change in the dollar. Jonathan Demchick - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from William Plovanic.

William J. Plovanic - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Good evening. Just a couple of questions. One on Trauma. As we think about going after Trauma, is there any specific segment that you're going to go after? Is this going to be hot trauma, cold trauma in the foot and ankle segment? Are you willing to share that at this point?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

Hey, Bill. Again, this is Dave. We're not saying a lot of details, but the way we've approached the spine market is probably similar to the way we're going to approach the trauma market. We've partnered with clinicians to look for problems, unmet needs, if you will, in the market and come up with solutions. In the spine, we've done it up and down the spine. We're agnostic in terms of approach, cervical, thoracic, lumbar, anterior, posterior, lateral. So I think we're going to attack the orthopedic trauma in the same comprehensive way. We feel like we need to have a complete bag in order to have the quality in our sales force that we need to penetrate the market.

William J. Plovanic - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

And is this going to be a direct channel or independent agents as you think about that segment?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

We haven't made any final decisions there.

William J. Plovanic - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

And then on Spine, I feel like we've heard more and more discussion in topics relating to the deformity market. And with the current set of products you have in deformity, are there any glaring holes or anything you're missing to really go after this sub-segment of the market? Given your history of iteration, innovation and breadth of product offering, I would think this is a sweet spot segment for you. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Bill. I think I said this about a few quarters ago. As we've built up the CREO platform, and that's where most of our deformity solutions are going to come from, we identified about 18 different systems that we need to be part of this platform and we are more than two-thirds of the way complete with the introduction of these systems. There are a few more products that we'd like to introduce. But even as we stand now I believe we have, if not the most, one of the most comprehensive deformity platforms now. And what we're working on now is trying to bring out technology to solve what we think are unsolved problems not using the same type of treatment that is currently being used. And we will have several projects in the pipeline to work on that and I'm hoping that we will be able to make a big difference in the treatment of some of these children.

William J. Plovanic - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

And then last question, and I know it's been asked. But when I look at the guidance for Q4 and a flat Q4, you're basically guiding Q4 the same as Q3. And even with TTOT and FX and everything you're talking about, even the comps, it just seems like that's a little low, so it tells me you either had something that was one-time in nature in Q3. Is there something I'm missing? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Bill, not really. The methodology is simple. I think we had a strong quarter and we're committing to actually repeat that knowing what we know with this in Q4, so we're just carrying that forward. We're taking the bottom line and through leverage and other opportunities, we're going to increase the guidance by $0.01 on that quarter along the way, and we want to be perfectly conservative. Again, we'll strive to beat that, but just everything we know today, we're not signaling headwinds or anything that we're aware of so much as we think this is a strong quarter, we're having great growth for the year, we're going to commit to that taking it into Q4.

William J. Plovanic - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst

All right. That's all I had. Thank you very much. Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Thank you. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ben Andrew. Ben C. Andrew - William Blair & Co. LLC: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. On the Trauma side, David, over what timeframe do you believe that that can become even, say, 10% of the company's revenue base given both the investments you've made and absent an acquisition?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

Ben, I'm not sure we're willing to put a stake in the ground in terms of that kind of metric. We're planning to enter the market towards the end of next year and we're going to be aggressive in terms of our growth plan, but we really – you're talking about 2017 before any meaningful revenue begins. So I'm not sure when it would hit the 10% mark. Ben C. Andrew - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay. And then on the biologics side, obviously TTOT's been a good one for you. Can you give us a sense of how that has done compared to the target for a $12 million contribution? And again, maybe even just directionally when you can get to the target of 10% to 15% of revenue? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you. See, we guided to $12 million for TTOT. We're doing a little bit better than what we guided to. We did think that we would lose some of the business they had and that hasn't quite transpired the way we thought, so it's doing a little better than what we thought it was. As far as the 10% to 15% in biologics, I think over the next three years – it's three years to five years would be a right horizon for that. BMP is still a big part of the biologics space and so it's – when I say 10% to 15%, I do include BMP in those numbers, so that's a tough comp to overcome. But I think three years to five years is the time horizon to think about that. Ben C. Andrew - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay. Thank you. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jason Wittes.

Jason H. Wittes - Brean Capital LLC

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. Just what you said about next year in terms of the expansion, it sounds to me like most of the spending next year is R&D spending, with the exception of the fourth quarter, which I think from, again to characterize your statements, is the start of spending for the infrastructure. And is it fair to presume that the quarter we saw now in terms of the incremental spend for these two new projects is kind of the incremental spend we'll see next year, with the exception of the fourth quarter when you start to build out SG&A as well? Daniel T. Scavilla - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Jason, it's Dan. I don't know if I'd go quarter by quarter. What I would tell you, and I think what we're signaling is we have spending in emerging technologies now even included in the results that we're delivering. As you go into Q4 of this year, you may see some uptick as we add some positions or get deeper into that but not a radical shift. Next year, in addition to the continued R&D development of emerging technologies, we'll start to put together a commercial force primarily with robotics. Right now, I would be guessing to say that's probably more Q2, Q3. I don't have the exact splits with that. But, yeah, I think we would see an uptick to it. That's what we've been signaling, even back when we did the Q2 earnings release, saying our intent is to start putting that together pre-revenue so that we can impact the market at a faster rate.

Jason H. Wittes - Brean Capital LLC

Analyst

Okay. And then you mentioned that you are looking for potential acquisitions in Trauma. Could we assume there's no limitation on size there? And in addition, is that to pick up distribution or technology and/or both? How should we be looking at that?

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

Historically, we've done more of the size of bolt-on acquisitions. I think we could be a little more aggressive for the right target in this space, given that it's a new space for us. And the answer is yes, both distribution as well as potential products would be the focus.

Jason H. Wittes - Brean Capital LLC

Analyst

Okay. And then, David Paul, one last question. You mentioned, through your time horizon to get to 10% to 15% of your mix being biologics. You're including BMP. Should we assume that by that point you would have some type of stem cell or BMP alternative in your portfolio? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Not a BMP product, per se, but we're hoping to have some type of stem cell alternative by then.

Jason H. Wittes - Brean Capital LLC

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And our final question comes from Dave Turkaly.

David L. Turkaly - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks. In terms of your robotic platform, and the comments you made sort of on deformity, is that going to be a focus as you roll that product out? Or you be really going into all procedures in spine? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: David, thanks for the question. We're really focused first on safe placement of pedicle screws, and then as we introduce it out to that one application, then we want to keep expanding it out. We see several immediate applications. The robot right out of the box is going to be able to do multiple applications. But our focus first is on the pedicle screws. And as I've spoken in the past, when you have, especially in deformity cases, when you have rotated spines, it's a lot more important to have accuracy of pedicle screw placement. And that would be one area where the robot would bring significant benefits right away.

David L. Turkaly - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst

Great.

David M. Demski - Group President-Emerging Technologies

Analyst

David, I would add just one other thing there. The robot is not limited to spine applications. We see potential cranial applications, other orthopedic applications, but as David mentioned, the first one is going to be pedicel screw placement, but the robot can address a much bigger market than just spine.

David L. Turkaly - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst

Great. Last, just on the o-U.S., can you just remind us the big geographies you're in today? And are there any incremental that are coming on soon to help that grow faster? David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Well, the big geographies for us are countries in Western Europe like the U.K. and Germany and Belgium and then if you look at Asia, it's India and Australia. Those are our big markets. We have mentioned before that we've begun preparation to get into Japan. We have some folks hired and we're working through the regulatory process there, and that I think is more going to be a 2017 issue.

David L. Turkaly - JMP Securities LLC

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot. David C. Paul - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, David.

Operator

Operator

And at this time we have no further questions. Thank you very much. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.