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Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 24, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day! And thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Galapagos First Quarter 2025 Financial Results and Business Update. At this time all participants are in a listener-only mode. After the speaker's presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Glenn Schulman, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Glenn Schulman

Analyst

Thank you operator. And thank you all for joining us for Galapagos' first quarter 2025 financial results and business update conference call. Last evening we issued a press release outlining these results. This release along with today's webcast presentation can be found on the Galapagos website. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that we will be making forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include remarks concerning future developments of our company and our pipeline and possible changes in the industry and competitive environments. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these statements and are accurate only as of the date of this recording, April 24, 2025. Galapagos is not under any obligation to update statements regarding the future or to conform to these statements in relation to actual results unless required by law. Joining us on today's call from Galapagos' senior management team are Dr. Paul Stoffels, Chair and Chief Executive Officer; and Thad Huston, Chief Operating and Chief Financial Officer of the company. We are also joined by Doctors John Mellors, Head of Cell Therapy Discovery; WulfBöcher, Head of Immunology; and OmotayoFasan, Clinical Program Head, Oncology, and they'll be available during the Q&A session. With that, let me now turn the call over to Paul.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Thank you, Glenn. Before starting the Q1 financial update, I want to provide some color on the recently communicated Executive Leadership changes. We are very pleased with the appointment of Henry Gosebruch as the Founding CEO of SpinCo. This is an important milestone in the planned separation of SpinCo as announced earlier this year. Henry has deep experience in M&A, business development, and capital allocation through his past roles as President and CEO of Neumora; Executive VP and Chief Strategy Officer at AbbVie; and M&A Co-Head at J.P. Morgan. We welcome Henry into his new role and we look forward to introducing him to you in the coming weeks. I would like to provide some color on my intent to retire from my role as CEO of Galapagos in the next 12 months once a successor has been appointed. I want to underscore that I'm fully committed to supporting Galapagos as its CEO and Chair of the Board. Upon a CEO successor being appointed, my intention is to serve as Non-Executive Chair of the Board of Galapagos, continue to provide strategic guidance and support. Galapagos has strong foundations in place to create value for all its stakeholders. We have built a strong company with top talent in Europe, the U.S., and China as we continue to attract experts in cell therapy. Together, we are transforming Galapagos into a focused cell therapy company that is offering real hope to people facing cancer. I also want to thank Thad for his contribution to Galapagos, as CFO and COO. He supported the transformation of Galapagos into the dedicated cell therapy company that we are today. He will remain with the company until August 1 to ensure a smooth transition and handover of responsibilities. Let's now move to our Q1 financial results and business…

Thad Huston

Analyst

Thank you, Paul. Now turning to some of the financial highlights from the quarter, which, as you would imagine, were impacted by our ongoing implementation of the restructuring and the SpinCo separation. Total net revenues for the first quarter of 2025 were EUR 75 million, which includes EUR 14 million of supply revenues related to Jyseleca and EUR 61 million in collaboration revenues. Increases to operating expenses were driven by our clinical expansion in oncology CAR-T in the build-out of our DMU network, as well as EUR 111 million of restructuring costs. These include severance costs, the early termination of collaborations, impairment on small molecule assets, as well as deal costs related to plan separation. Looking to our balance sheet, we report a cash balance of EUR 3.3 billion at the end of the first quarter 2025. Important to note here is the timing difference of the effective payouts related to the reorganization which is not represented in our cash balance. Upon separation, SpinCo will have approximately EUR 2.45 billion to execute its strategy for transformative transactions. Following this planned transaction, Galapagos expects the normalized annual cash burn to be between EUR 175 million and EUR 225 million, excluding restructuring costs. Upon separation, Galapagos will have approximately EUR 500 million in cash to accelerate the cell therapy pipeline and expects to have runway to fund operations to 2028. Turning now to the value proposition for Galapagos and SpinCo. We remain very excited by the opportunities we can create by separating Galapagos into two entities. Following the separation, Galapagos will be focused on accelerating the development of our flagship CD19 CAR-T program through our innovative decentralized manufacturing platform. As noted, our aim is to start pivotal development in 2026 and first approval in 2028. We will continue to build value by…

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Thanks, Thad. As you can see on this slide, we have an exciting year ahead with the potential to achieve a number of value-driving catalysts. Our clinical programs have a number of key inflection points, including new top-line data from the indolent NHL cohort to be presented at the medical conference in the second quarter of 2025; new data from the MCL cohort at the medical meeting in the second half of 2025; and an end-of Phase 2 meeting for MCL that will align our pivotal trial design with global regulatory authorities and position us for pivotal development start in 2026. Advances with our innovative discovery engine will allow us to dose the first patients with our armed by-specific CAR-T candidate in 2025, and we will select at least one next-gen candidate to take forward to the clinic by year-end. For the planned separation of SpinCo, we expect to announce additional management and board appointments and to obtain shareholder approval for the separation by mid-year. In summary, 2025 is set to be a transformative year for Galapagos. With pivotal clinical milestones, groundbreaking advancements in our discovery engine, and the strategic separation of SpinCo, we are well-positioned to drive significant value for our stakeholders. We look forward to sharing our progress and achieving this ambitious goal. Thank you for your continued support and confidence in our vision. Operator, we are ready to open the call to questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]

Glenn Schulman

Analyst

Thanks Sarah. While you compile the list, I just also want to mention that we have Valeria Cnossen, our Executive and General Counsel with us as well today for the Q&A period.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our first question. This is from Brian Abrahams from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Brian Abrahams

Analyst

Hi there. Thanks for taking my questions and best wishes to Paul and Thad on the transition out of the company and retirement, and congrats on the hiring of Henry for SpinCo. I guess, now that it seems like there's a path that's even better defined for 5101, I was wondering if you could give us a better sense of your latest thinking on the registrational requirements in MCL. What a pivotal could look like and what data you might need to show there? And then, if you could also talk a little bit about your expectations for the time cushion between when this pivotal data could read out and your cash runway. Thanks.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Yeah first, the choice of MCL is based on very good results. It's a very high unmet medical need, which we have been able to address with our CAR-T in a very positive way, very high cure rates as you have seen in the complete response rates, as you have seen in the slide, as well as very good safety data, and it's still in high medical need. With people who have a very high – sorry, a short life expectancy. And maybe our clinical head, Tayo, may give some further comments on that, on when and how we will get to our pivotal design.

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yes, this is Omotayo, the clinical program head for 5101. So MCL is the right choice for the first indication for 5101, because like Paul said, there is a high unmet medical need. The population we're targeting, the relapse refractory population with non-CAR-T therapy have usually less than a 12-month event-free survival or progression-free survival with whatever therapy they get. So given this, there is a pathway for a novel therapy like a CAR-T to pursue an indication using a single arm trial design. But we also understand that with every single arm trial design, you need to have a confirmatory study lined up, and our initial thinking is that this would be a randomized control study to confirm the findings of the clinical benefit from the SAT.

Thad Huston

Analyst

Yeah, and just to address, Brian, the question about the cash runway, we did intentionally align our capital allocation between SpinCo and Galapagos to address that pivotal readout and to align it with MCL. We say that the cash will take us into 2028, which is roughly the timing that we're anticipating for that.

Brian Abrahams

Analyst

Thank you.

Thad Huston

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Phil Nadeau from TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

Phil Nadeau

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking our question. Let us add our thanks to Paul and Thad for all your work over the years. A follow-up question to Brian's from us, and that's on manufacturing. Can you talk a bit more about your understanding or expectations for the manufacturing requirements that you'll need to file in the U.S. and Europe? How well-defined are those with the regulatory agencies, and is there more work to do to understand those requirements? Then maybe a second part to the question would be how many DMUs do you think you'd need in the U.S. and Europe to fully satisfy the market? Thanks.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

With regard to the requirements for the manufacturing process and equipment, we are in continuous discussion with the authorities and each of the steps have been very well defined from where we are now, both with EMA and the FDA, to starting pivotal additional steps are taken on quality release, etc., and then what needs to be done by commercial. And we have a whole development part in place for that, with all the elements in place to be able to have our pivotal studies running as pre-commercial, because we need to have the final formulation, final setup, and then confirming that with additional validation throughout our phase – our pivotal study development. So that is very well understood. We have had multiple discussions with the authorities and we have a clear path for that with all in place to meet the 2028 date for commercial availability.

Thad Huston

Analyst

Yeah, thanks Phil for the question to address the point about the number of DMUs and sites. It has been evolving. I think initially when we first acquired CellPoint, it was more about point of care. And we thought that that would be like near the hospital. I think it's been evolving more towards decentralized manufacturing hubs, where again, like we recently signed with Moffitt, a collaboration to cover the Southeast. And so we think that we'll need fewer DMUs, but have more of a regional coverage model. And that's still under development for commercial, but we're still in the clinical phase at this point. But as it evolves, I think it will be more regional. [Multiple Speakers] Also having regional hubs as well, covering the Benelux, of course, UK and key markets throughout Europe.

Phil Nadeau

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take the next question. This is from Sebastiaan van der Schoot from Van Lanschot Kempen. Please go ahead.

Sebastiaan van der Schoot

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions and sad to see Paul and Thad go. I think that you mentioned partnership opportunity for Galapagos after the split has been finalized. Are you also interested in partnering on the Cocoon approach with other partners for the development of cell therapy? And if so, can you describe how such partnerships would look like? And then maybe can you also provide some insight on the focus of the next generation of our team? Thank you.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Well, Sebastian, first I want to say I'm not yet gone. I've committed to stay for the next 12 months to make sure that I’m first off CEO and then continue as Chair. So I will stay with Galapagos for the long time. So that is my mission. On the partnerships, yes, we will be – we have a lot of interest in people who look at the manufacturing platform to be participating in that. The first of the collaboration we did was with Adaptimmune, where we saw that – where we actively studied with a cell in the Cocoon and were able to show that we could make the TCR T also in seven days with very good quality cells. That enables us now to bring that into the clinic in ‘26 with a study most likely in head and neck. That is the goal. More interest is there, but at the moment we have a single focus on making sure we bring our own platform and our own products forward to commercial. Eventually, yes, there will be opportunities to partner on the platform itself. The DMU is a very – it's an exceptional, unique approach, bringing CAR-Ts close to people and also the ability to bring them global, including Asia, South America, all the rest of the world is accessible by this principle. So we'll foresee definitely collaborations as we go forward, but with a focus on making sure our own products reach the market first.

Thad Huston

Analyst

I think it's a really exciting time for us as we do the separation to have this platform, as Paul mentioned, develop our own pipeline, but also to develop next generation assets, which John can talk more about.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

John?

John Mellors

Analyst

Yeah. Hi! I'm John Mellors, Head of Discovery. I'm happy to talk about our next generation assets. They will address a high unmet medical need in both liquid and solid tumors. The approach is to take validated targets and combine them potentially with new targets through a multi-targeting strategy, and also arming the cells to expand and persist and not be inhibited by the tumor microenvironment and to engage the endogenous non-CAR-T immune system to attack the tumor. And we're targeting non-Hodgkin's lymphoma that is refractory, even after first generation CAR-T therapy, but we'll move into earlier lines of therapy as data emerge, particularly in DLBCL, where there's high unmet medical need, and also refractory multiple myeloma after BCMA by specific or CAR-T therapy. The largest unmet medical need is in solid tumors and we have identified three programs to hit various forms of lung cancer and gynecologic cancer. And as was mentioned earlier, we'll nominate our first candidate for IND this year for a hematologic cancer, which will be advanced over existing therapies. And we will move into early clinical development through our recently established headquarters in Shanghai, China. Thank you.

Sebastiaan van der Schoot

Analyst

Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Manos Mastorakis from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Manos Mastorakis

Analyst

Hi, thank you so much all for taking my question. So a little bit more color on the M&A strategy, the modalities, the collaboration versus straight out acquisitions will be much appreciated, as well as whether SpinCo will be completely independent in the development of its new portfolio or whether GLPG resources will be tapped into. And what are the sort of timelines for starting to see some of those deals executed by SpinCo? Thank you.

Thad Huston

Analyst

Thank you, Manos, for the question. Yes, SpinCo will be an independent company. And obviously now with having Henry as the Head of the CEO, we really focus on bringing in and acquiring new assets and so it's not limited to a particular area that's of strategic interest to Galapagos. It's really up to Henry and the independent board and management team to do those deals. We will provide obviously the support to initially set up the SpinCo and the entity and provide any support like IT or finance or just those kind of general G&A support. But yeah, they'll be an independent team.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

And for the timing of the first deal, as we are approaching a mid-year, most likely there will be no deal done before the Spin is actually redone. Yeah, so that is – but we'll be very active on – much activity ongoing to prepare for potential opportunities.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Faisal Khurshid from Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.

Faisal Khurshid

Analyst

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Just can you provide some context on expectations for the MCL data update coming in the second half of this year? I'm curious if you can kind of say anything on like numbers of patients and the extent of follow-up compared to the data that we saw last year.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Tayo, can you give a short update on what to be expected?

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yes. So last ASH, ASH 2024, we had eight MCL patients in that data set. That's from April 2024, exactly a year ago. We have continued to enroll and the numbers have increased, and we will be updating and releasing data second half of this year.

Faisal Khurshid

Analyst

Yeah. Can you say anything on how many patients and how much follow-up?

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

So the median follow-up at ASH for that cohort was about three to four months. And like I said, we'll be at least one year on. So that's about the follow-up you will expect. The numbers are more than we've reported and we're not ready to disclose at this time.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Well, let me add in general, what we are doing is in the eight indications which we are studying, we have a Phase 1/2, Phase 1 part and a Phase 2 part, and the Phase 1 part in the dose finding, the Phase 2 part in the expansion cohorts. And we typically go up to around 20 patients, might be more, but that is the range we will report on multiple of our indications in the future. So you have seen the list on the slide on the different indications. All the indications are recruiting, except for the Richter transformation and CLL, which still need to kick off. RT's Richter transformation is ready to go. CLL, the protocol is being finalized with the authorities. And hopefully in the next few months we'll be able to recruit there too. So it's a very active program. It will – but each of the indications will be going up to a certain number in the range of 20 to confirm efficacy and safety.

Faisal Khurshid

Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you, Paul. And then if I can just ask a follow-up here. What is the target profile that you think you need to achieve in MCL to kind of differentiate from the two approved CAR-T options?

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Tayo?

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yes. So the two CAR-Ts you referenced, one of them is known for its efficacy, the other for its safety. We believe our profile will match – should match the efficacy and the safety as I just explained. So we think we will merge the best of both worlds.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Well, in addition to that, the opportunity to have a product which can – a cell therapy product which can be administered in a seven-day vein-to-vein, so people with live expectancy even up to with one month, you still can get therapy, and that is a very important feature for what we see now in the clinics. They have relapsed patients who come back to the clinic with relapsed refractory mental cell lymphome with very short life expectancies. And those are specifically people where the product can be very, very differentiated to still give a solution for that patient.

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

And I'll just add on to what Paul said. One of the things we know from prior CAR-T data and MCL, is that a percentage of patients drop out between leukapheresis and infusion. The strength of our platform is that within seven days that number is much reduced. So we believe that this is additional value 5101 will be able to bring to this high unmet medical need.

Faisal Khurshid

Analyst

Yeah.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question. This is from Judah Frommer from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Judah Frommer

Analyst

Hi. Congrats on the progress, and thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple of follow-ups. I guess first, maybe just in reference to expanding the collaboration agreements in the U.S., just curious if kind of new partners are indicating that it's supply, that's an issue for them, or that they are interested in expanding for CAR-Ts at their centers, or if it's the efficacy of the programs that's resonating more. And then just on SpinCo, we've gotten a question. Is there any chance given Henry's recent background, that neurology could be an area of focus going forward?

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Yeah. So I think on the separation, I mean, clearly we see a lot of interest in our platform with cell therapy, the decentralized manufacturing. But I think where it gets really exciting is what Paul mentioned with Adaptimmune. When we test cells on the Cocoon in seven days, we see better cell quality and better outcomes. And so there has been interest, I think, post-separation for us to partner with many different types of companies, both big and small, depending on whether they need a manufacturing platform or whether they want to see even better efficacy for their products that's in their pipeline. And I think related to the SpinCo, I think our areas of interest that we've outlined has been oncology, immunology, and virology, which again, were areas of interest for Gilead. But I think it's always possible, depending on the deal.

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yeah. With regard to the partnerships on the DMUs and hospitals and the interest, there is significant interest. We are building up DMU by DMU as we need to validate and cross-validate this production as biological production sites. And sometimes that takes certain times, and that's where we are building up very steadily. But in between now and the year end, we'll have multiple of the DMUs up and running, preparing for the pivotal. So that is ongoing. Lots of interest on hospitals, and we select the DMUs where we can manufacturing close, in regions with access to multiple large hospitals and within a few-hour drive range, so that we can deliver the fresh cells in the same day. Cells come from our manufacturing system in the morning. They need a few hours for quality release, and they typically are administered in the afternoon to patients. So that is the way we operate in close to large cities with multiple hospitals today.

Judah Frommer

Analyst

Thank you.

A - Thad Huston

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Jacob Mekhael from KBC Securities. Please go ahead.

Jacob Mekhael

Analyst

Hi there, and thanks for taking my question. With the recent changes happening at the FDA, how do you think this could impact how the agency looks at point of care CAR-T? And could there be a change to how open they are to new ways of manufacturing and delivering cell therapies, now that they are working with less people?

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Well, that's to be expected, I think. Well, to be expected, to be looked for on what the change is going to be. But one thing I can say, if we work on, and we have the recent experience in the past few weeks with the FDA, working on a very high unmet medical need still gets priority, still gets support, still gets the help of the people at the FDA. But even more, I was at the Rome Cell and Gene Therapy Conference last week, in Rome, and the senior regulators from Europe and the UK were there, and they see this also as an opportunity now for Europe and the UK to stand up and drive the innovation. And I think we'll get support all over the world, especially because you bring a product for a very high unmet medical need which can help many patients. So I expect, yes, there might be some hiccups, but so far we have not yet seen that.

Jacob Mekhael

Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Chi Fong from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Chi Fong

Analyst

Hey, this is Chi for Jason Gerberry at Bank of America. Thanks for taking our question. I have a question on 5301. So the field currently has a hypothesis that Parkinsonism is a class effect and not a molecule or construct-specific effect, and that you can minimize Parkinsonism by prophylactic steroid treatment. I'm curious what's your view on that? And can you remind us what the mitigation strategy you have implemented in the AMENDA Phase I protocol? Are you giving patients prophylactic dexamethasone or a similar approach? And have you seen any Parkinsonian cases since you have resumed the study? Thanks so much.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

So Tayo or John, can you step in here?

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yes. So I'll go and then maybe John can add as well. The mitigation strategies we put in place are strategies that have been published in literature. When the Parkinsonism associated with BCMA therapy first hit the headlines, I think this came as a surprise. And when the data was reviewed, certain risk factors were identified, such as patients with high tumor volume was a risk factor, and patients with rapidly rising lymphocyte count. So what we've done in our protocol is to try to mitigate at least two of this or both of these issues. And we have elements in the protocol to protect patients. And since restarting the study, we have been able to manage all the patients that have been enrolled and haven't seen any further occurrences.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

So as we said earlier, one comment more is that we are still in the Phase 1/2 study phase, closing on the dose finding, and then we'll further expand. And we'll be able to report on this study in ‘26, because yes, it takes time and the spacing of the dose finding and the safety event we had, we got some delay. But now we are back on track and we'll report on that. Based on those data, we'll decide what development path we take for our BCMA product. Thank you.

Chi Fong

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We'll now take our next question. This is from Sean McCutcheon from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Q –Unidentified Analyst: Hi. Good morning, team. Congrats on the progress in the spin-off. This is Yang [ph] on for Sean from Raymond James. We have a question regarding the U.S. clinical trial, especially for Atlantic. Now you have announced your first patient, and could you provide some color on the degree of variability you have seen on per patient basis or the per site basis, especially given your previous experience that for some patients the product may be below the target dose. What's your thinking and strategy for the protocol action in that case? Thank you.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Tayo?

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yes. So specifically, we just began enrolling patients in the U.S., if your question was about the patients in the U.S. versus Europe. So we're still gathering data, and so I can't answer that question specifically. However, what I can say in general terms is that, even in cases where the doses may not be the doses intended, when those patients have been infused, we have seen encouraging safety data and efficacy data. And an investigation and process improvements were put in place, and since then the dosing has been more consistent at the desired dose. Q –Unidentified Analyst: Okay, thanks. Maybe I can do a follow-up for the ATLANTA-1. We noticed that you did not mention DLBCL. Could you give us your thoughts on this cohort and what you are thinking for defining the go forward dose?

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

Tayo?

Omotayo Fasan

Analyst

Yes. Okay. So, ATLANTA has seven cohorts right now. And like Paul mentioned earlier, we're adding an eighth cohort, chronic lymphocytic leukemia. MCL is the first cohort that's going forth to pivotal. And the other cohorts continue to enroll and continue to gather data, analyze the data. And as the data matures, we intend to progress those cohorts to pivotal as well. DLBCL is one of those cohorts. It's still open and it's enrolling patients. Q –Unidentified Analyst: Okay, thanks for the update.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question. This is from David Seynnaeve from DegroofPetercam. Please go ahead.

David Seynnaeve

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. I'm just wondering, at the speed it's going now, when you expect the PAPILIO-1 patient enrollment to be completed, based around if it's going to more likely H1 or H2 2026, when will you share the top line results, or at least when you expect to be able to provide more detailed guidance on that? Thank you.

Paul Stoffels

Analyst

I think at the moment, we are still, as I said, recruiting in the Phase 1 part of that. Soon the Phase 2 will start. We can't give further guidance on when we'll be able to report top line data, but it will be ’26, and in one of the next calls we'll provide more detail on that, where we will land in the course of 2026.

David Seynnaeve

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And there are no further questions at this time. So I will now hand the conference back to Glenn Schulman for any closing comments.

Glenn Schulman

Analyst

Thanks, Sarah. And thank you, everyone, for joining us today on our first quarter 2025 results conference call. On behalf of the team, I want to thank you for your attention. Also, let you know that we will be attending – the team will be presenting at the Jeffries Conference coming up in June, and we'll be reporting our next webcast of first half financial results, July 23rd, followed by the webcast on July 24th. So, hope everyone has a great day and be well.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect. Speakers, please stand by.