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Globant S.A. (GLOB)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, May 14, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Globant Q1 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask question. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, Paula Conde. Please go ahead.

Paula Conde

Analyst

Thank you, Operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today on our call to review our first quarter 2020 financial results. By now, you should have received a copy of the earnings release. If you have not, a copy is available on our Web site investors.globant.com. Our speakers today are Martín Migoya, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer; Juan Urthiague, Chief Financial Officer; and Patricia Pomies, Chief Delivery and People Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the comments on our call today maybe deemed forward-looking statements. This includes our business and financial outlook and the answers to some of your questions. Such statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties as described in the company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC. Please note that we follow IFRS accounting rules in our financial statements. During our call today, we will report non-IFRS or adjusted measures, which is how we track performance internally and the easiest way to compare Globant to our peers in the industry. You will find a reconciliation of IFRS and non-IFRS measures at the end of the press release we published on our Investor Relations Web site announcing this quarter's results. I would like now to turn the call over to Martín Migoya, our CEO. Martín Migoya: Thanks, Paula. Hello, and good afternoon, everyone. As we are at the end of this earning call season I'm sure that you have heard from many CEOs across many different industries about the difficulties our world is facing, but it is never enough to underscore this unprecedented situation and how this is impacting our daily routines, increasing our concerns about our health, and the health of those we love, and how this is impacting the world economy. We stand with all those who are suffering today. Over the next few minutes, I would also like to lay out how Globant is resolved to face this situation as an accelerator for our business in the middle to long-term. Over the past few months, I have been amazed by the kindness, creativity, innovation, and resilience that I have seen across the world. Today, I would like to share with you some stories from Globant about how we're positioning our transformational skills to help our communities and our clients rise to the occasion. We have had a great first quarter with solid revenue growth and profitability, but before I get into the details, I'd like to introduce you to Patricia Pomies. She will discuss how we are facing COVID-19 in the Globant way. Patricia is our long-time operations leader, and our Chief Delivery and People Officer. As the head of Globant's COVID-19 committee, she has been instrumental in steering our company through these vital months. Pato, please?

Patricia Pomies

Analyst

Thanks, Martín, and hi everyone. It's an honor to join you this afternoon. To face this new situation, over the past month we have truly consulted with national governments, independent experts, multilateral organizations, and fellow global companies. We have centralized our COVID-19 decision-making to quickly safeguard the wellbeing of our Globers and our business. This is why we proactively move our company to work-from-home mode, on March 14, even before some of our host countries declared lockdown. We completed the transition in just 48 hours, all while providing uninterrupted delivery to our clients. We have remained fully operational since our top priority is our Globers' safety, we will remain on work-from-home status for the time being. For when we do indeed return to the office, our COVID-19 committee has prepared a detailed plan to do so safely and gradually. Being a digital united company has enabled us not only to quickly adapt to the global lockdown, but to promote our Globers' professional development as well, even when working remotely. We have recently launched Globant University, our own learning platform that will enable our Globers to up-skill or re-skill in the most sought-after competency in the industry. It offers 40 learning tasks grouped into four skill families, technology, agility, language, and leadership. Our aim is for our teams to become more creative problem-solvers for our clients in this era of uncertainty. We are innovating our way through this storm and come out stronger on the other side. Let me share with you some of the ways Globant is innovating to fight COVID-19. First, the resource dashboard, we knew that for public health officials information is key. Therefore, we teamed up with Salesforce to develop an interactive dashboard to enable real-time management of key resources. This includes available ICU beds, respirators, and…

Juan Urthiague

Analyst

Thank you, Martín, and thank you all for joining us today. I sincerely hope you, your families, and colleagues are all well and safe. Let me start by summarizing our first quarter 2020 results. I will then discuss our guidance for the second quarter. We are very pleased with our overall results for the first quarter of the year, as we showed a very strong performance. Our revenues for Q1 amounted to $191.6 million beating our guidance and representing a solid 31.1% year-over-year growth. Q1 revenue growth was 32.2% year-over-year in constant currency. COVID have minimal impact on our Q1 revenues, primarily because of our swift actions relating to transitioning almost 100% of our employees to work from home, containing seamless delivery of services to our customers. Disney was once again, our largest customer for the quarter growing more than 45% on a yearly basis, revenues from top five and top 10 accounts, increased 31.9% and 31.5% respectively over the first quarter of 2019, customers 11 and beyond, increased 30.8% during the same quarter, showing solid growth, all across the board. On a sequential basis, revenues increased 3.9% in Q1 2020, over the last quarter of 2019. As a result of our diversification of operations into multiple regions, we have been able to gradually reducing compositionality, in terms of revenues. Our customer concentration numbers for Q1 2020 remained largely stable, with our top one, top five, and top 10 accounts, representing 11.7%, 29.1% and 41% of revenues, compared to 10.5% to 28.9% and 40.8% of revenues respectively for the first quarter of 2019. Looking at diversification for our revenues by industry vertical, we remained balanced across the different industries, with lead entertainment and financial services, leading the pack, accounting for 24.2% and 23.7% of revenues respectively. Professional services and consumer…

Operator

Operator

Yes, thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Tien-Tsin Huang with J.P. Morgan.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Thank you, great to connect. It looks like a great quarter. On the second quarter it looks like the guidance, the implied deceleration was a little bit better than what we had expected. So I'm curious on the second quarter here, how broad-based were some of the delays that you're describing? It sounds like it's mostly travel and entertainment. And now that we're about halfway through the quarter are you starting to see some of the delays get back started again with the projects getting underway again? Just curious what you're seeing right now real-time. Thank you.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst

Yes, hello, Tien-Tsin, this is Juan. How are you doing?

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Hi, Juan.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst

Thanks for question. So as you pointed out so far most of the impact that we have seen is concentrated on travel entertainment. Some of those projects are coming back. Some of them so far are still in hold. So it's a mixed situation in that industry. Other industries are holding up well. But as you know we have several customers in those industries, that's why we had to -- or our forecast for the second quarter is a little bit lower than our number for Q1. But given that we are seeing in the market we believe we feel that the $179 million for Q2 is a reasonable number for Q2. And again as I was saying, most of that is coming from some projects getting delayed or some small cancellations primarily in travel and hospitality. All the other industries look -- are reasonably holding up so far.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Okay. No, that's good. That's encouraging actually. Just as my follow-up then, just thinking about longer-term margins, I know you gave the second quarter, that's helpful. With the success of work-from-home, and you're talking about augmented AI and everything else, do you see potential for higher productivity to drive improved margins longer-term than before, in the post-COVID world?

Juan Urthiague

Analyst

I think it's still too early to say. Clearly there is going to be changes in the way we work and the work people go to offices, and mainly the number of people that or the number of offices that we will need in the future. But I think it's too early to say. We are in the process of learning how working from home and working in the new environment is going to be like. So I think at this point, of course, we do believe that utilization is going to come up again as soon as we start to see more demand coming back. And that will improve the margins relative to Q2. But I think it's too early to say what's going to be the longer-term impact of the new reality of working from home or working from offices in a different way. I don't know, Martín, if you want to add anything on that? Martín Migoya: No, I'm fine. I think it's right, Juan, it's right on the spot.

Tien-Tsin Huang

Analyst

Okay, very good. Nice job, guys. Thank you.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst

Thank you, Tien-Tsin. Martín Migoya: Thank you, Tien-Tsin.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi.

Thank you. Hi, Martín. Hi, Juan. Hope you two are doing well. Likewise for the second quarter, the outlook looks a little better than we thought. So I thought I'd ask you to provide a little bit more color with regards to specific visibility of what you're hearing from other verticals in terms of is there a secondary impact, how are you managing things such as hiring pace, utilization? Are you hearing any comments with regards to pricing conversations? Some qualitative [indiscernible] around those things would be great. Thank you. Martín Migoya: Sure, thanks for the question, Ashwin. This is Martín. Look, I see like -- overall, I see like a plateau on pessimism, and of course I don't think it's improving. I don't think it's going worse. So my feeling is that that is also followed by not such -- but not such a high pressure on pricing, so that's on one side, so not a lot of -- at this moment not a lot of renegotiation of terms. So, on that aspect it looks like the situation kind of plateau. Now, going into utilization, which I think was your second question, please let me know. Juan, can help you with that one.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Citi.

Yes, so I think you're asking how we two are healthy in these difficult times. So look, utilization in Q2 is going to come down a little bit. We believe that this crisis or this situation is going to be short-term or at least we think that the economy will start recovering in the near future, and because of that we are trying to keep all the knowledge, all the experience that we have built over the last few years in our company. And that's why utilization is going to come down a little bit, especially in Q2. Having said that, the way we are managing the situation right now is basically we are only hiring those skills that we know that are very, very hot and that we really, really need, and we are working a lot on training people to make sure that we are ready to cope with the demand that is coming. So you will see a lower number of [indiscernible] during Q2, but that's because would be fair to manage our utilization that way be keeping all the knowledge or most of the knowledge that we within the company, keep training our people, even if that has a small impact on margins and utilizations in the short-term. We are building a business for the long-term. We believe that we will be in a very good position once all this situation improves, because the need for digital transformation, the need for digitalization is going to increase, and Globant, we believe is the right partner for those companies that will need that type of talent and that type of services in the future.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi.

Those are fair points, and good to hear. So I guess the second question, and Juan, you had provided a good detail there on the balance sheet side of things. The clarification I wanted to ask you about was the drawdown of the credit facility, $125 million which makes up the vast majority of the $134 million in cash that you have, is that basically you're trying to manage timing of bonuses versus poorer collections. And the collections comment, was that more of a very factor-specific comment or was it a little bit broader?

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Citi.

No, so the bonuses were paid in January so they are -- sorry, in Q1, actually in March. So that's already impacted in the cash in the balance sheet as of the end of March. We decided to draw the line just to make sure that -- you know it was at the very beginning of the -- at the very end of the quarter, sorry, when all this started. So we just wanted to be on the safe side, and to have money in the balance sheet in case the situation deteriorated further. At this point we are not -- we don't see -- actually we're not using that money, we have it in the bank there, ready and waiting to be used in case it's necessary. Collections, as you mentioned, we did some on the travel and hospitality sector some selective discussions with some customers where we had to -- or we agreed with them for a temporary extension in payment terms, but those just very, very few cases. But again we still decided to take that money, to draw that money and keep it in the bank just to be on the safe side. But so far we have not been -- we didn't need to use any of that money.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Citi.

Got it, understood. Thank you.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Citi.

Thank you, Ashwin, very much… Martín Migoya: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Maggie Nolan with William Blair.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst · William Blair.

Hi, thank you. Within that 2Q guidance that you gave, Juan, what is the expectation for performance from some of your top account buckets, and both in terms of the revenue and the margin figures that you gave?

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · William Blair.

Hello, Maggie, how are you? Thank you for the question. So, within our top accounts there are only two accounts that are in the travel sector and one in the entertainment sector. We will see some impact on one of the travel companies, DI1 is actually holding up very well, because they went through a vendor consolidation and we came out as a preferred vendor, and we're actually growing that account. The other account in the tele sector is going to be impacted and we will see a decrease in that account. And then in the One Entertainment sector, no, we are holding up quite well. Of course, we did have some impact because of it's actually Disney is our number one account as you know, we did have some impact on the parks division because the parks are closed as you guys know, but at Disney, in the last six, seven years, we have been able to expand into multiple areas of the business, and all the other areas of the wins are holding up well and growing. So that is offsetting part of the impact that we had on the parks in case the relationship with that account continues to be very, very strong, and we will be -- we expect to come back once the situation recovers from them. And then, in terms of margins, again, we don't think the margins in these specific accounts are going to come down. I mean, we're not having any meaningful discussion in terms of pricing or anything like that. I mean, it's just very selective. The impact is on the overall margins, and that's going to be because of the clearly lower utilization overall the way we're going to have because again, as I was discussing before, we believe that this is going to be an opportunity for Globant in the future, this is going to generate demand for Globant in the future because of all the trends that you're going to see in terms of digitalization and because of that, we are we decided to keep all the skills that we have in the company, are the people that we have been training over the last few years, and that's why we believe that for the company and also for the shareholders, it's a better decision to maybe have slightly lower margins but be ready for strong comeback only this situation improves.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst · William Blair.

And on the vendor consolidation point that you've brought up both in the script and now, is this something or these initiatives that were in place prior to coronavirus or is vendor consolidation a trend that you're seeing more so as a result of coronavirus? And what are you hearing from clients in terms of why they're choosing Globant and why Globant is able to pick-up that market share? Martín Migoya: Hello, Maggie this is Martín. Look, there are several factors playing here. The number one factor is that the value proposition and the kind of projects we are doing is really key for many of those customers. So we're seeing although the greatest presence is everywhere, we're seeing that these projects are being accelerated Now why us because for the same reasons, we have been talking about many, many years where if you're a play, we know how to do these things better than our competition, hopefully, and that's the number one reason. The second reason is how we have decided to approach to those customers that are really need for help. And I think we took a very smart decision to help those customers that we like, that we trust in their business to and to help them in ways which are very creative, understanding their business cycle and understanding our business cycle. And I think that this approach is pretty unique in the industry. And it's something that we have been able to differentiate our approach from many of our competitors in terms of how we manage the payment terms, how we manage our projects and the upside that we have in case, the projects are successful, so on and so forth. And that was a very creative way of understanding how to help them in this situation. And the third factor is that many of those customers the connection, the cultural connection between us and the customer is pretty high. So, whenever they need to talk, they will find out where to start first rather than cutting our teams that had a big chunk of their knowledge and the know-how of the projects that they are executing and the reason why their customers are selecting them. So I think there's a mix of situation, coronavirus this is a crisis and for me it's an accelerating factor of a Globant selection. And that's why I said a few minutes ago, this is Globant moment, and I think that we are able to show these different every day in the field against our competitors, and it's working out really great. So that's the comment to what Juan mentioned.

MaggieNolan

Analyst · William Blair.

All right. Thank you. I'm glad you're all well. Martín Migoya: Thank you, Maggie.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · William Blair.

Thank you, Maggie.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And the next question comes from Bryan Bergin with Cowen.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst · Cowen.

Hey, thank you very much. Hope you're all doing well. I wanted to ask on talent resourcing as demand does start to pick up here. How are you thinking about recruiting in a virtual world? Are there any limitations or concerns for you to add people first the traditional way? Martín Migoya: Yes. Hello, Bryan, nice to hear from you. So, you know, in the last several quarters we have been adding no more than 600 and equal, proving that we are a very attractive company to work for people that are actually deciding to work for Globant in what used to be an extremely competitive environment. So we have been able because of the type of customers that we shop, the type of stuff we filed, the brand that we created to become the brand of choice for many engineers, not only in Latin America, but also now in some countries in Europe. So, we have been hiring a lot of talent in the past. We were preparing for a very, very strong year that the number four Q1 actually shows that we're set for a record year, but you know, now we have to face a different environment, and we will hire in a different way at the very beginning, We will be hiring specifically during Q2, you should expect us to hiring very selectively toasting knowledge is that we want to expand those to notices that we believe are going to be in very high demand once the situation improves. And of course we have to do that managing I worked at a station and our margins at the levels what we want them to be, and where we guide them to be. So that's when I read the strategy in terms of hiring, I know my team, if you want to expand on how we seen that hiring is going to look like in the next couple of years, some quarters.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Cowen.

Yes, I think that, I mean there are plenty of opportunities to attract great talent. Right now as you know, this situation is driving -- it's not really driving smart decisions everywhere. I mean, crises sometimes trigger just because the sake of cutting costs so on, so forth. And that release really great talent into the market. And so I see the future as having pretty good opportunities to attract such a talent that maybe has been in trouble during this the last week or month. So, I believe we will have a pretty strong opportunity looking forward. As always and I have been answering this question for many, many years already. As always I see the talent market pretty good place for us. Even our positioning and given what we have to offer to them. So, in essence I don't see any problem and even more I see opportunities moving forward.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst · Cowen.

Okay. That's helpful. And then I want to ask on revenue per employee. So just looking at how that's trended over the last year or so. I think math down mid-single digits on a trailing 12 basis, he just comment on some of the changes there. There is maybe the nature of some of the activities that are coming on through M&A or anything else we should be thinking about in those metrics.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Cowen.

Yes. I think that. So there's a combination of things over there. First one, more important is the change in the mix in order. The onsite things for us, about 5% to 6% of our total employees, compared to about 8% or 9% a few years ago. So when you look at revenue per share that -- you know, the percentage of our local employees, it's usually two or three times the revenue for employee. So, that's one factor that is impacting that number. Second part, to point out is M&A, one, some of the companies that we acquired -- and also the expansion that we have in some countries in Latin America came at slightly lower revenue per kit. So you have a little bit of a mix there impacting the number. And finally, the last one, and I think one of the most important one is that, the last four or five quarters, we were seeing demand and demand picking up and the pipeline building, and getting bigger, right. So if you look at the number of people that we were having in the last several quarters. It has been a really, really large number, the growth in terms of net additions was higher than the revenue growth. So when we're preparing the company for what we were seeing in Q1, actually we were seeing a very strong 2020 for this year. We were getting ready for that in advance. So, I think the combination of those factors is what's explaining you the slight decrease in the revenue profit number, but when I emphasize the point, there're no price reductions, or anything like that, in fact we still see. I mean not right now. This is not the time to maybe wanting to surprise, but of course, there was until March not a single discussion about pricing. So it was more about the mix, it was more about the number of people that we're bringing into the company to get them trained than anything else.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst · Cowen.

Okay, very helpful. Thank you very much.

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Cowen.

You're welcome.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Hey, thanks. Good to hear your voices. Good to hear everybody's fine. Just a follow-up and maybe let's start with a housekeeping item, can you talk a bit about the headcount per regions, Argentina, and some of the other regions where we are?

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Yes, sure. So, Argentina right now is 29% of the total shipment, followed by Colombia at 27%, Mexico 11%, India 10%, and then you have some other regions there. So again, Argentina is again down on a relative basis. It went up in absolute numbers, but it's down on a relative basis. So we continue to decentralize the company and Argentina is now only 29% of the total fare cuts, if we were just looking at the level shipment, so developers and engineers. Colombia is slightly ahead of Argentina right now. So, Colombia is just by a few people larger than Argentina, in terms of the number of people. We still have some of our stuff early as in Argentina, so that's why the total number is higher for Argentina overall.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Understood. And then, should we assume that some of the typical traditional cost pressure, out of Argentina is probably lessening, given the environment?

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Look at this point, you know, with the crisis, and what's going on all over the world. I think that let's say there is a little bit of less of pressure in terms of costs, people and companies in general are protecting themselves and I'm not being aggressive, so the market is not as aggressive as it used to be in prior years. So I don't see that level of pressure that you were seeing up until last year and that's not just one country, that's across the globe, people in general and companies are more in a defensive way. So we don't expect to see the same level of pressure that we used to see in the past.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Thanks. That's helpful. And then the last question is for Martín, maybe you can talk a bit about some of the conversations you're having with clients in terms of what they are planning to do down the road post COVID, or what's COVID actually making them do looking at their infrastructure and looking at your portfolios, advanced technologies that you have on board? Thanks. Martín Migoya: Hi, how are you? Thank you so much for the question. Look, it depends a lot on the industry. There are certain industries like travel for example, and in particular airlines, which are trying to kind of reinvent what they're doing. So the dialog now is let's use this moment to kind of reinvent the whole company. So I think in that way, it will be healthy for some of those companies although they're having a huge crisis right now. When they are out, they start flying and start resuming operations. They will be in a totally different shape. The same happened with some companies on entertainment side, which public statements from their CEO saying, we're looking into totally different company after getting out and we're seeing that and we're helping them in many of these situations. Talking specifically about the world, sorry, going into other industries where the impact is not big or on the other hand, it's improving like for example let's say retail or healthcare, or even finance. We're seeing also like a lot of investments accelerating and this is we're seeing demand right now. It's like changing shape on the demand, accelerating these proposals to be ready beforehand and to be ready before the crisis ends. So I see like this new normal that is happening right now, where office status will be reshaped, Globant included in that list, where…

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

That's helpful, just in that context last question on my side, how is the whole selling process or the pitching process for new prospects has been gone? And this area where you can't really travel prospects cannot visit some of your facilities. Does that mean how are you kind of handling the whole situation? Martín Migoya: It's a very smart question. I think that well all the questions are smart, but this one is especially smart. I think that there is a whole new challenge for all our sales guys, and our business development people around the world on how to connect, how to create those relationships when you are not able to be in-person, you are meeting in a place. However, to my surprise, we have been able to accelerate and close like large deals and large things happening, and nobody knows, this new thing is happening and nobody knows, which are the next steps, including ourselves, but we're experimenting pretty interesting stuff like for example, big deals are being closed now, without any specific in-person meeting, and they're being closed anyway. So that really surprised me, and I think that, the future will look much more like closing deals and making a more connection through online channels rather than just in-person, in-persons meeting which is why the way exchange is critical for the planet because the carbon footprint would be much smaller for closing a deal or was something that we were concerned about the amount of traveling we needed to do to be able to close one deal from to fly from one part to the other parts or to fly from Latin America to Europe or from Europe into the U.S. So I see that that's going to be like a new kind of dynamic, we're experimenting on that, but we're seeing good stuff happening already. People can connect over these kinds of things, and they are executing extremely well.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Great, maybe…

Juan Urthiague

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Moshe, just to tell on that, something that we've been doing a lot in the last few months is getting to know our sales teams, know our business unit directors, discuss ideas, discuss -- there is a lot of innovation going on, a lot of very creative ideas of how to engage with customers, how to win deals, how is the situation or the relationship with our customers is evolving, and that in those meetings we discuss a lot about that. We do them very often, and of course, we also review about opportunities, how our fortunes are growing and so on and so forth, but we have been very, very creative, very, very innovative in new ways to engage with our customers, and I think that's what it was. Martín Migoya: Just a quick comment on that, I think that in this new era, massive engines of coverage that will not pay off that much. So, what I'm trying to say is that in this new era, we will have like a more content-based connection rather than a pure relationship connection, and this is a very important sheet that I'm seeing happening, and for us it's extremely good, because we are very deep in our content, we are really innovative in what we are able to bring to our customers. This is, I would say, much more important now, because we have that content, we have that innovation, I suppose to something that we don't have that much, which is a huge engine to cover 100% of the corporations like other companies have. So, I think that this is like a pretty special moment for us in this aspect.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Wedbush Securities.

Impressive. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And as that does conclude the question-and-answer session, I would like to return the floor to Martín Migoya for any closing comments. Martín Migoya: So, thank you very much for all of you joining, really pleased for the coverage you're providing to us, and for the time that you're spending with us. I know it has been tiring and has been a long earnings call season, and really happy to have you here and really looking forward to keep talking over the next quarters as these situation develops and hopefully evolves favorably. So, thank you very much, and looking forward to contact in the next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.