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Gladstone Capital Corporation (GLAD)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Gladstone Capital Corporation First Quarter Ended December 31, 2016 Earnings Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder this conference call maybe recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to David Gladstone. You may begin.

David Gladstone

Analyst

All right, Nicole, thank you for that nice introduction and hello everybody. This is David Gladstone, Chairman and this is the first quarter earnings conference call for shareholders and analysts on Gladstone Capital. Our common stock is traded under the symbol GLAD and the preferred stock is traded under GLADO. Thank you all for calling in. We’re always happy to have these calls with shareholders and analysts and welcome the opportunity to provide an update on our company and the investment portfolio. And always, I say it every time, you have an open invitation to come by our offices here in McLean, Virginia, we’re outside of Washington D.C. and say hello. The Gladstone team is here, we've got about 60 people with little under $2 billion in assets under management. So now let's turn over to the General Counsel and Secretary, Michael LiCalsi; he’s also the President of Gladstone Administration, which is the administrator to all of the Gladstone funds and some related companies and he’ll make some statements regarding forward looking statements and some other things. Michael, go ahead?

Michael LiCalsi

Analyst

Good morning everyone. This conference call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, including statements with regard to the Company’s future performance. These forward-looking statements inherently involve certain risks and uncertainties and other factors even though they are based on our current plans which we believe to be reasonable and many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipate, believe, expect, intents, should, will, may and similar expressions. And there are many factors that may cause our actual results to be materially different from any future results that are expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements including the risk factors listed in our Form 10-K and 10-Q filings and a registration statement as we file with the SEC, all these can be found on our Web site www.gladstonecapital.com or the SEC’s Web site www.sec.gov. And this company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise except as required by law. And please also note that past performance or market information is not a guarantee of any future results. We also ask you that you visit our Web site and sign up for our email notification service. You can also find us on Facebook, keyword, The Gladstone Companies and follow us on Twitter @gladstonecomps. You can read our earnings press release and Form 10-Qissued for December 31st quarter that was issued and filed yesterday with the SEC. You can find the press release and 10-Q on our Web site gladstonecapital.com and the 10-Q on the SEC’s Web site at sec.gov. An audio presentation of this call will be archived on our Web site as well. And now we will begin by hearing from Gladstone Capital’s President, Bob Marcotte.

Bob Marcotte

Analyst

Thank you, Michael. Good morning and thank you all for dialing in today. As a reminder for any callers Gladstone Capital is the lending fund within the Gladstone Company’s family of publicly trading funds. And our core strategy is to provide cash flow based loans to privately held U.S. based lower middle market businesses with $3 million to $15 million of earnings before interest and taxes. We target to maintain a minimum of approximately 90% of our investments in debt investments and the majority of which were senior secured loans to growth-oriented or recession resistant businesses which have the revenue visibility and cash flow profile to support a leveraged capital structure. The majority of our loans carry floating rates tied to LIBOR and, our net investment income should generally rise with interest rates. With that introduction, let’s get into the results for last quarter. Last quarter, the combination of the modest improvement in middle market M&A deal volumes and an increase in sponsor refinancing and recapitalization activities resulted in healthy flow of deal opportunities. While some of the elevated deal flow was opportunistic and in response to improved market liquidity. We were generally pleased with the overall quality of the deal flow. Of the deals we've pursued, we did see some increase in competitive pricing pressure. However, we are able to close on three new investments in the quarter. Between new deals and follow-on investments total originations in the quarter were just over $20 million and we carried over a $10 million proprietary secured second lien investment, which we closed last week. As announced previously, we also experienced two large exits last quarter associated with the sale of RBC Reliable and Barron's. And while they were great outcomes, they lift the total proceeds on the quarter to 50.5 million and…

Nicole Schaltenbrand

Analyst

Thank you, Bob, and good morning everyone. Let’s start by reviewing the income statement. For the December quarter, total interest income was $8.6 million, which was down 5.3% or $500,000, compared to the prior quarter. This was driven primarily by the 11.7% decline in our average interest earning assets offset by a slight increase in our weighted average yield. Other income consisting mostly of success fees and dividends received, increased quarter-over-quarter from 600,000 to 1.3 million and listed the total investment income to 10 million. Interest expenses on the quarter decrease by 300,000 mitigating most of the decline in interest income. However, total net interest income on the quarter decline by 200,000 to 6.8 million. Non-financing costs increased by 200,000 compared to the prior quarter, and net management fees on the quarter were unchanged at 2 million. For the quarter ended December 31, net investment income was 5.2 million or $0.21 per share and covered 100% of shareholder distributions. As we have demonstrated over the last several years and in the most recent couple of quarters, our advisor remains committed to crediting its fees so that annual net investment income covers our shareholder distributions. Moving over to Gladstone Capital’s balance sheet. As of December 31, we had approximately 305 million in total assets, consisting of 288 million in investments at fair-value and 17 million in cash and other assets. Liabilities totaled approximately 91 million and consisted primarily of 28 million in borrowings on our line of credit and 59.5 million in our series 2021 term preferred stock, which is now disposed net of deferred financing cost, as mandated by the adoption of FASB Accounting Standards Update 2015-03. Our net asset value decline by $0.26 per share quarter-over-quarter, the NAV decline is primarily driven by the net realized and unrealized depreciation that Bob covered earlier, which equates to $0.17 per common share. In addition, as discussed previously, the price realized on last quarter’s common stock offering was at a small discount to net asset value and reduce our NAV by an additional nine points per share. As of December 31st, NAV per share was $8.36, compared to $8.62 as of September 30, 2016. Looking forward, we continue to be well positioned to benefit from any upward movement in interest rates, as 91% of the portfolio is tied to floating rate investments. The weighted average LIBOR floor on these assets is approximately 1.4% and with only 28 million in floating rate debt, a 100 basis points rise in LBIOR should generate an increase in NII of approximately 5%. Inclusive of all of the liquidity events of the current quarter, we are well positioned with a strong capital position with low debt-to-equity of approximately 43% and approximately 80 million of availability on our credit facility to fund additional new investments. And now David will conclude the presentation.

David Gladstone

Analyst

All right. Thank you, Nicole, and that was a very nice presentation, Bob did a good job and Michael too. So, we’re doing a good job, I think, of informing our shareholders and analysts. In summary, Gladstone Capital had a strong quarter. Team made new loans of about $20 million that was 17.2 million to new companies to 2.8 million to our existing portfolio. We also had that one that moved over, should have been closed in the past quarter, but it was $10 million. So it gets us a good start in this quarter that we’re in. The Company has maintained its concentration of loans in mid-size U.S. companies, is all private companies and continues to have a good yield on these loans. And continued concentration of most of our loans was senior loan positions, that gives us a great deal more safety than in secondly lien and continues to improve the capital position of the company such as the strong position to continue to grow this company. We raised 17.3 million shares for net to us of 16.4 -- what I'm saying -- 17,300 in new cash, but after all of the deductions we have 16.4 million to us. So we're looking to the future now, we're mindful of shifting political environments and the effects that they have on the economy as well as the business we lend to you today. The credit markets are quite active which is one of the strongest market places I've seen. There has been significant cash inflows into the syndicated loan marketplace and private loan funds all of these are focused on the middle market. This may lead to a reduction in interest rates that we can charge borrowers as competition continues to cut rates, we haven’t seen much of that yet…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Andy Stapp of Hilliard Lyons. Your line is now open.

Andy Stapp

Analyst

Just wondering how your pipeline for new investment is compared to quarter and a year ago?

David Gladstone

Analyst

Bob what you got in your pipeline?

Bob Marcotte

Analyst

Andy, the pipeline is roughly the same. I would say, we typically see anywhere between six and 10 transactions that we have indications out on and are fairly confident that those proprietary investments will move forward. Obviously, M&A environment bounces up and down, there is some measure of competitive dynamics. So we would typically see a number of those fall away. So when we handicap, we typically look for two to three, maybe in a good quarter four, investments to close. At this point, I would say, the only additive point that I would have is, I think our pipeline is probably skewed a little bit more second lien today. Because of some of the yields and some of the competition for the unit tranches is really driving some of those pricing down. So we’re probably -- where we use to be maybe 70-30 unit tranche to second lien, we’re probably close for 50-50 today. But ultimately these are second liens with modest leverage attachment points, we are not looking at things that are closer to the more syndicated loans, where leverage attachment for those instruments could be approaching fives and sixes.

Andy Stapp

Analyst

Got it, okay. And I was little confused about the amount of investments you made in existing portfolio companies. I think the earnings release referenced 2.8 million, I think you said 3.9 million, am I missing something?

David Gladstone

Analyst

I think the difference in there, Andy, is there was 2.9 of new money putting in, it was really one investment that was a secondary buy on a small syndicated position that we made, that was most of that additional amount that you're referring to is probably the amount of capitalized interest, because we do have pick interest on a number of our investments. So this is roughly 1 million plus of pick interest that increased the total amount and wouldn’t have come through the cash flow statement that I suspect you're looking at.

Andy Stapp

Analyst

Okay, and you enjoyed a pick-up in the yield on your debt investments. To what extent do you think you can continue to lift the yield?

Bob Marcotte

Analyst

I don’t think that that's -- I would expect a lot of that. We continue to target new originations that are accretive. 11.3 is a pretty heavy rate in the current rate environment that we are experiencing. To do that we'd probably have to skew our investments much more second lien and I don’t think we want to do that at this point in the credit cycle. So, I think today we're probably about as high as we are short of a new straight increase in LIBOR on where we are likely to be. I also wouldn’t see it go down much, at this point. We are not looking to compromise our origination yields just to put money to work.

Andy Stapp

Analyst

Okay, thanks for the color.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Testa of National Securities Corporation. Your line is now open.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Just going on your comments on the competition and pricing, just wondering if you could give us some color on how the competition has changed the structure of the new investments you are seeing particularly in second lien. I know, Bob you had said that there is modest attachment point. I was wondering if you could give us some more detail there?

Bob Marcotte

Analyst

Well, I think if you read a number of the brokerage or banker kind of summaries of the capital markets, I think what you are seeing is the unit tranche leverage range has probably inched up. What used to be roughly three turns on unit tranche in the middle market, is probably pushing in many cases upwards of 3.5 or 4. So that is putting some pressure on the, do you go a bifurcated senior second lien or do you just to do a unit tranche structure. So today we're probably seeing a little bit more unit tranche reaching in the three's or higher, and so those are transactions that we are probably not going to see. The incremental benefit of doing a bifurcated structure which is more complex doesn’t justify when the senior lenders are looking to go a little bit deeper. So what we're seeing would typically than be a deal where the banks would still do roughly three turns of leverage on the first, a little bit more competitive pricing and then we would take than the last turn, to turn in the quarter or something like that in second lien. So all in our leverages probably filling the same range, but it’s predominantly where the banks are strongest and there is a -- one efficient senior lender in front us, as opposed to a unit tranche competition. Does that help?

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Yes. That’s great color. Thank you. Just looking at your capital structure, I know as of June 30th, we’re able to redeem the preferreds. Is there any inclination to potentially do this and have a baby bond offering and just lower your cost of funds?

David Gladstone

Analyst

I think we have a priority right now of getting the investments backup. I would say that that is on the horizon, Chris, there is a bit of a dance that we will have to work through, we have to move the maturity date on that preferred issue out, which would probably require a refunding of it. In part because, the maturity date of that is also linked to our credit facility. So the first move will obviously be taking that out, extending that maturity and we will then open up the line, which has a maturity date in the, I believe January of ’19 timeframe. So we’re coming up on this scenario, where we probably have to begin to move that dance to extend our maturities.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Got it, great. And just the 3.9 million or so out of the first lien into the second lien in common, I might have missed that, I’m sorry, which company was that?

David Gladstone

Analyst

You’re talking about the overall movement of first to second lien?

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Yes.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Well there were -- a large portion of the RBC reliable bio-pharma exposure was senior loans. We were the only lender, we were largely the equity owner since we had taken that over. And when that, the proceeds of that came in which aggregated a little over $36 million in the aggregate, that was such a huge move on our senior pay downs that is naturally popped our second lien up as a percentage. The second liens went up slightly, but it was more a result of the senior loans going down than anything else.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That’s all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Bob Brown, Private Investor. Your line is now open.

Bob Brown

Analyst

Two questions, first of all, you’ve been talking about the mix of first lien and second lien. If you could talk about what you’re thinking is in terms of loaning along with an equity sponsor versus totally proprietary going forward? And the second question is related to some possible equity kickers. I know in the past couple of quarters. David had mentioned there maybe one company that might be getting some type of events, where we could get some equity kicker and I was wondering what -- is that still out there and/or what's it's looking like this year in terms of in that issue [ph]?

David Gladstone

Analyst

Okay. On the topic of sponsored versus unsponsored. There definitely has been a slight increase in the non-sponsored activity, sponsors are certainly being pressured based on the valuation multiples to push leverage up and to push pricing up and to push pricing down that’s obviously not something that we are chasing. I think I commented on some of the opportunistic refinancing that are going on in the marketplace today. The $100 billion or whatever of refinancing activity in the broader syndicated markets, a vast majority of that was reprising. So it's gotten a little bit more competitive in the sponsor side. So I would say our mix rate now is probably roughly 50-50 of sponsored versus unsponsored, we're very cautious about the unsponsored activities, but that's roughly the proportions today. And I think that's just the nature of the market we're looking for good quality assets at reasonable leverage and yields. And with respect to kickers, I think the recollection was that we had variance on the queue to be sold for a number of quarters. It was closed in the last quarter and we did realize approximately, I think, a $2.5 million gain on the equity interest there. So that was factored in, but like anything else, that had been marked up and was reflected in our 930 evaluation, we just happened to have realized on that appreciation in the cash that came in on the quarter, that's the unusual piece. All of our exists we're already recognized as of 930 and that's why we had $15.7 million of appreciation in the 930 quarter. So you have to kind of look at it over the totality of the year to see where those little kickers kind of come in because when the yield is recognized in the book and when the cash is actually recognized or often times different time periods.

Bob Brown

Analyst

Got it. In terms of, anything -- looking at this year, anything in particular that we are thinking about or that looks promising, are there things that look promising.

David Gladstone

Analyst

I think the couple of things that I would focus on is, we don’t have a ton of anticipated liquidity event on a year, we've obviously taken a few big slugs in the last quarter. There are one or two companies that are in the market place today. One of them maybe in our energy related portfolio and if that weren’t clear, it probably would be a positive. Beyond that I don’t really see a ton of equity interests. I would say that we do have upside opportunity in appreciation, a number of our equity interests that have been written down, I commented on two in my comments, where we think that the pipeline and the momentum are stronger and will result in appreciation. But I don’t think there is an envisioned liquidity event associated with those situations. We're working the equities hard, but obviously it takes quarters and operating performance and those don’t move very quickly. So we're focused on operating performance, not necessarily the liquidity that's right now.

Bob Brown

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And I’m showing no further questions at this time. I’d like to hand the call back over to David Gladstone for any closing remarks.

David Gladstone

Analyst

Thanks so much, and thank you all for calling in. We love these questions, hopefully we get a lot more next time and we will see in another quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. That does conclude today’s program. You all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.