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Griffon Corporation (GFF)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 2, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Griffon Corporation Third Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. And at this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Brian Harris, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Brian Harris

Management

Thank you, Matt. Good afternoon everyone. With me on the call is Ron Kramer, our Chief Executive Officer. Our call is being recorded, and will be available for playback, the details of which are in our press release issued earlier today. As in the past, our comments will include forward-looking statements about the Company's performance based on our views of Griffon's businesses and the environments in which they operate. Such statements are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties that can change as the world changes. Please see the cautionary statements in today's press release and in our various Securities and Exchange Commission filings. Finally, some of our today's remarks will adjust for those items that affect comparability between reporting periods. These items are explained in our non-GAAP reconciliations, included in our press release. Now, I will turn the call over to Ron.

Ron Kramer

Management

Good afternoon and thanks for joining today's call. We are pleased with our third quarter results, strong demand in Home & Building Products' resulted in its 8% increase in revenue and record segment adjusted EBITDA. Plastics revenue and EBITDA remain consistent with the prior year quarter and Telephonics revenue and EBITDA decreased from the prior year quarter. We remain positive on the earning power of businesses and are confirming our 225 million segment adjusted EBITDA guidance for fiscal 2017. Before turning to our segment level comments, I'd like to provide an update on recent news, capital deployment activities and return of cash to shareholders. On July 31, AMES acquired La Hacienda Limited, a leading United Kingdom outdoor living brand of unique heating and garden decor products, for approximately $11.0 million. The acquisition broadened AMES' global outdoor living and lawn and garden business and supports its UK expansion strategy. The acquisition is expected to generate $18 million in annualized revenue and to be accretive to Griffon earnings in its first full-year of operations. Also in July, AMES represented the Common Wealth of Pennsylvania, at the White House Made in America product showcase. Founded in 1774, AMES is the third oldest brand in America and the nation's leading manufacturer of landscape and gardening tools. AMES has a rich history of building America and manufacturing in the United States, and we're very pleased to be featured and it's an exciting moment for our employees to be recognized on a national level. Griffon, is in a unique position to benefit from enhanced economic growth, domestic infrastructure and national security spending, and tax reform, and we remain optimistic that all these are going to happen. Moving to our capital deployment and return of cash to shareholders… We've not repurchased any common stock since the first…

Brian Harris

Management

Thank you, Ron. Consolidated third quarter revenue increased 2.4% to $473 million compared to the prior year level $462 million. Increased revenue in the quarter was driven by strong performance in our Home & Building Products segment with Plastics revenue being consistent with the prior year and partially offset by lower sales for Telephonics. Third quarter 2017 consolidated segment adjusted EBITDA declined to $53.2 million compared to the prior year period of $57.8 million. We continue to expect fiscal 2017 segment adjusted EBITDA of $225 million driven by a continued improvement in our Home & Building Products' segment. As usual, we are mindful of risks related to timing impacts on Telephonics revenue, fluctuations in resin pricing and foreign exchange rate, and in the case of the fourth quarter timing of winter snow tool load in sales. By segment of Home & Building Products third quarter revenue increased 8% to $277 million compared to prior year period of $256 million. AMES revenue increased 11% to $136 million compared to prior year period of $122 million. Despite the second consecutive year with a cold and wet spring in North America, AMES sales improved from market expansion and the December 2016 Hills acquisition in Australia and increased AMES U.S. lawn tool, hose reel and wheelbarrow sale. In our doors business, revenue increased 5% to $140 million compared to the prior year period of $133 million. The doors business benefit from the increased volume and pricing. Home & Building Products' segment adjusted EBITDA increased 3% to a record $33 million and compared to $32 million in the prior year period driven by volume and partially offset by increased steel cost. Turning to Telephonics, segment revenue decline to $82 million compared to $92 million in the third quarter 2016 due to a lower volume of…

Ron Kramer

Management

As we finished 2017 we're positioned to deliver on our full year EBITDA commitments as we continue to grow and improve our operations through innovation and efficiency initiatives. Our businesses are poised for further growth and enhanced profitability. All of us are hard at work to make our existing businesses better while actively looking for new acquisition opportunities. We're very excited about our prospects. And with that, operator we'll open it for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And at this time we'll take a question from Bob Labick with CJS Securities.

Lee Jagoda

Analyst

Hi, this is actually Lee Jagoda for Bob Labick, good afternoon. So, Ron just starting with Telephonics, it sounds like there's some timing aspect and some push out to Q3 and Q4 in some of the product lines. Can you talk about whether it's more new products waiting to kick in or existing programs accelerating?

Ron Kramer

Management

I'd say it's more timing of international orders, that's becoming increasingly part of the mix as well as run off of existing programs, as expected, and timing of orders is going from one quarter to another, but the overall direction, the fundamentals of the business remain very sound. The talk of increased defense spending and the reality of it flowing down to subcontractors like Telephonics, is going to be measured over a period of years. And we fully expect Telephonics to benefit from the ultimate increase in defense spending. The reality is, is that our near term positioning is more tuned to international orders and the timing of the receipt of orders is less predictable for us on a quarter-to-quarter basis. But on an aggregate basis, we continue to believe that we're in very good shape for the programs that were on to get new funding, but that's going to be measured in years not in quarters and for the international orders to continue to improve.

Lee Jagoda

Analyst

And clearly there's been some increased chatter in news flow around international conflicts and the border wall. I think U.S. Security and I'm sure it's a sensitive topic in terms of we can't disclose certain things. But are you seeing RFPs and other indications of more near term interest related to those issues?

Ron Kramer

Management

We clearly believe that our products play a role in border security. The funding for that is caught in a very complicated government budgeting and political process that includes both fixed barriers, as well as technology, as well as people. So, we think Telephonics has a role to play. We think we're a cost effective provider and when this decision-making gets done, and the initial funding for increased border security has really just started, we hope to be a beneficiary. We believe we have products that really do solve a big part of the problem and on a very cost effective basis. And we're hopeful that that's the way Custom and Border Patrol, Homeland Security sees it.

Brian Harris

Management

And I would just add to that, we have many international orders, were terms are negotiated, we are just really awaiting funding.

Lee Jagoda

Analyst

And then switching gears to the Home & Building Products piece, sort of a multi-part question around La Hacienda. First and foremost, can you discuss sort of its positioning within the UK market obviously it's small, discuss where you guys see yourselves within three to five years in the UK? And then lastly, with regard to La Hacienda, is there any opportunity to bring that product line to the U.S.?

Ron Kramer

Management

I'll start to answer it by telling you that we've had as a corporate objective that we've discussed about wanting to expand our presence in the UK, it's a very large lawn and garden market. We've been following our biggest customers in Australia and support of their business of going into the UK, when Bunnings bought Home Base we had already been looking for acquisition opportunities. The market there is diverse with lawn and garden centers and other retailers an important part of our long-term strategy and the way I would describe the UK for us is look at what we did in Australia with a multiyear period of buying, consolidating, building and investing around branded products and we've built a very nice business in Australia to compliment our North American business, Canada and the U.S. around AMES. Our intent is La Hacienda is meant to be the first of what we hope to be many acquisitions, small and large to expand our footprint in that market. The specific La Hacienda product is something that we see as being potentially a introduction into other markets, but that's not the intent to buying the Company, it's really to support its existing position, it's a entrepreneurial run company. We've had good luck in bringing private owners into our public company environment, nurturing the growth of their business, expanding their management capacity and the Goodwin brothers who founded this business in 1989 are now joining a bigger team with bigger resources, and we hope that they run and help us build the bigger business in the UK.

Operator

Operator

At this time, we will move to Justin Bergner with Gabelli & Company.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

First question would just be to clarify some comments you made, I think you said that the orders in Telephonics were $51 million versus $60 million. Was that year-on-year or sequential comment? And then the big order that you described from Lockheed Martin I think of $37 million. Is that in the backlog? Or is that -- would that show up in the future backlog?

Ron Kramer

Management

Brian?

Brian Harris

Management

Sure. The order is in backlog and that would be current year quarter versus prior year quarter comparison.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay, so that order would have been I guess close to three quarters of the orders you received.

Brian Harris

Management

Yes.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay, as you sort of look out to the rest of the fiscal year I guess segment EBITDA has been relatively flat for the first three quarters and you are expecting it to sort of increase by I don’t know roughly $5 million in the fourth quarter hit that 225 number. And you are also sort of lapping a good fourth quarter in the last fiscal year in Telephonics. So just help me understand sort of what parts of the business are going to materially pick-up in the fourth quarter?

Ron Kramer

Management

We continue to see Home & Building Products' improve and we continue to believe that Telephonics’ fourth quarter sequentially is an improvement the same as last year from third to fourth quarter.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay.

Ron Kramer

Management

Plastics continues to be on the trajectory, pleased with their results, and we are hopeful that there is more coming in the years ahead as they continue to position themselves to benefit from the Sof-flex investments that are already been made and will continue to be introduced.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay, with respect to the steel cost headwinds in Home & Building Products. Were those sort of both on the AMES and Clopay side? And was that more of the lag issue? Or is that going to persist in future quarters?

Brian Harris

Management

We will still continue to see headwinds from steel in the fourth quarter. It's more doors than AMES, but it does affect both of them.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

Okay, and on Plastics do you -- are you getting your gain in share with your Sof-flex capability, and sort of if so, I guess it seems to be bringing your volumes to more flat from prior declines. Sort of does it have the ability to meaningfully affect your volumes into positive territory?

Brian Harris

Management

So, Justin, the Sof-flex is something that's hasn't fully rolled out by our first launch customer. We expect them to launch in first half of calendar '18. What we're seeing as many customers moving from white or unprinted film that's non-breathable to breathable printed film, that's where we're strong. And that is where a lot of our investment that we've made and continue to make right now, we're going to benefit from that. So our volume overall is little flat, most of that's driven by Europe volume that is not doing well; however, in North America and in Brazil we continue to see growth.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

And then just want to follow-up there. When you say it hasn't fully rolled out with the launched customer. Are there meaningful opportunities beyond that one launch customer? Or does sort of the upside drop off materially beyond that one launch customer?

Brian Harris

Management

No, there're opportunities beyond that launch customer. We have other customers looking at it now, but one customer is not just looking, they're updating their production, they're updating their packaging and marketing to actually roll it out.

Ron Kramer

Management

We're still at the early stages of the introduction of the Sof-flex technology and the products to thinner film and the potential is to be game changing. But this is going to be measured again over period of years not over any immediate quarter-over-quarter growth.

Justin Bergner

Analyst

And does that Sof-flex introduction with the one customer going to be focused on Europe or sort of global opportunity it present?

Brian Harris

Management

We're not disclosing that at this time at the request of our customer.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And it appears. We have no further questions in the queue. I'll hand things back over to Ron Kramer for additional or closing remarks.

Ron Kramer

Management

Thank you. We'll be working very hard to finish up the year and look forward to speaking to everyone again in November.

Operator

Operator

Again, that does conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation.