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Geospace Technologies Corporation (GEOS)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 16, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Geospace Technologies Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. Hosting the call today from Geospace are Mr. Rick Wheeler, President and Chief Executive Officer. He's joined by Tom McEntire, the company's Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is being recorded and will be available on the Geospace Technologies' Investor Relations website following the call. [Operator Instructions]. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Rick Wheeler. Please, sir, you may begin.

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

Thanks, David. Good morning, and welcome to Geospace Technologies' conference call for the fourth quarter and 2018 fiscal year-end. As mentioned, I'm Rick Wheeler, the company's President and Chief Executive Officer, and I'm joined by Tom McEntire, the company's Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We'll start the call with my overview of the fourth quarter and fiscal year-end. And following this, Tom will provide in-depth commentary of our financial performance. I'll then offer a few final remarks, after which the line will be opened for questions. Some of today's statements may be considered forward looking as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. This includes comments about product markets, revenue recognition, planned operations and capital expenditures. All such statements are based on our present knowledge and perception, while actual outcomes are influenced by uncertainties and other factors we're unable to predict or control. Both known and unknown risks can lead to undesirable results or cause our performance to differ from what we say or imply. These risks and uncertainties include those discussed in our SEC forms 10-K and 10-Q filings. As a matter of convenience, we will link a recording of this call on the Investor Relations page of our geospace.com website. However, the information discussed this morning is time-sensitive and may not be accurate on the day one listens to the replay. Yesterday, after the market closed, we released our financial results for the 2018 fiscal fourth quarter and year-end, which ended September 30, 2018. For the fourth quarter, total reported revenue was $20.6 million, a decrease of 13% from last year's fourth quarter. In considering the lower revenue figure, last year's fourth quarter included the sale of 15,000 stations of 3 component GSX recorders, geophone sensors and batteries and related equipment from our land…

Thomas McEntire

Analyst

Thanks, Rick, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin, I'd like to remind everyone that we will not provide any specific revenue or earnings guidance during our call this morning. In yesterday's press release, for our fourth quarter ended September 30, 2018, we reported revenue of $20.6 million compared to last year's revenue of $23.7 million. Our net loss for the quarter was $200,000 or $0.02 per diluted share compared to last year's net loss of $19.2 million or $1.46 per diluted share. For the year ended September 30, 2018, we reported revenue of $75.7 million compared to revenue of $73.7 million last year. Our net loss for the year was $19.2 million or a loss of $1.45 per diluted share compared to last year's net loss of $56.8 million or a loss of $4.32 per diluted share. As Rick just mentioned, we recently revised our financial reporting segments to provide better clarity to our investors. Our new oil and gas market segment is simply a name change of our former seismic segment. And our new adjacent market segment renames our former nonseismic segment. In addition, we've added a new emerging market segment, which captures the financial information related to Quantum's seismic business in the border and security markets. A breakdown of our product revenue in our oil and gas markets is as follows. Our traditional product revenue for the fourth quarter was $3.3 million, a decrease of 33% compared to revenue of $4.9 million last year. Revenue for the year was $12.9 million, a decrease of 13% compared to revenue of $14.8 million last year. These decreases primarily reflect a large sale of geophone products from our rental fleet in last year's fourth quarter. Our GSX and OBX wireless product revenue for the quarter was $9.7 million, a decrease…

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

Thanks, Tom. To build on some of Tom's comments, throughout several years of a depressed seismic market, our balance sheet was and still remains debt free. And as of September 30, 2018, our cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments totaled $37.4 million. In addition, with an untapped line of credit, as Tom mentioned, that includes $21.5 million of borrowing availability, we started the new fiscal year with total liquidity of $58.9 million. This footing provides the financial strength to take advantage of opportunities we see developing for our ocean bottom nodes and rejuvenated interest in potential PRM projects. Together, with our expansion of technologies through the acquisitions of Quantum and OptoSeis, we believe we are well poised for future growth and revenue in all of our business segments. Seismic exploration continued to represent a small portion of many E&P budgets in fiscal year 2018. But we believe fiscal year 2019 holds greater promise. Several of our customers are beginning to see increased demand for exploration services, both in the U.S. and abroad. In addition, interest in demand for ocean bottom nodes surveys are the highest they have ever been. These surveys minimize both exploration and development risks associated with offshore oil and gas reserves through the improved imaging they provide. Our state-of-the-art OBX products place us in an optimum position to provide the technology needed by this growing aspect of the industry. To this end, we will continue to focus our financial and engineering resources on this important industry sector during fiscal year 2019. Now this concludes our prepared remarks, and I'll now turn the call back over to David for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And we'll take our first question from Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital.

William Dezellem

Analyst

I have two questions. First of all, had you owned the OptoSeis assets when Statoil was going through their tender, do you believe that you would have won that business? Or would have made a difference in that conversation to have a -- to have this fiber optic capability? And then secondarily, what's the prognosis for the remaining $300,000 or $400,000 with that bankrupt customer to be recovered?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

Okay. I'll answer the first question, and I'll let Tom answer the second one. Certainly, it would have made a difference with the Stateoil tender that was out simply because Statoil limited their solicitation in the tender to only those systems that were fiber optic in nature. Given that we didn't have a system at that point in time using that technology, we just had to withdraw ourselves from the ability to even respond. So with that in mind, whether we would have won the tender or not with a product that would have met those criteria, I can't say. But I know that, in general, our expertise is by far the most predominantly deployed within the PRM space. And so our expertise is well consider in that arena. So I think we would have had a very good chance, but because we didn't have that sort of technology, we really couldn't respond. So I'll let Tom answer the other one on the bankruptcy.

Thomas McEntire

Analyst

Yes, Bill, this is pretty simple answer to your question. We turned this matter over to our bankruptcy counsel, external to the company. And they're managing this and their advice right now is that, except for the $2.3 million reversal, they don't really expect us to get any more.

William Dezellem

Analyst

Great. Just want to come back to OptoSeis, if I may. Given that they did not win that tender, what do you believe you may have been able to do different if OptoSeis under the Geospace umbrella a better opportunity to win that business than the success they did have?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

I think there were are a lot of things that went into the award, as that tender was finally manifested. And it had nothing to do with the technology's viability. I think, in many cases, there were commercial aspects available in the selection that they made that were either more timely with respect to delivery of product or other sort of unrelated to technology aspects, commercially, that were a factor in there. So one of the things that we bring to the table, both with OptoSeis, Quantum and all the other products that we make is that we're pretty good at manufacturing these sorts of things and bringing in the time lines. As you might recall, the Statoil contract was anticipated to be about a 3-year project. But we brought that in less than half of that amount of time. So we're -- we have a demonstrated track record of being able to bring in those sorts of things in a shorter time frame.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Chris Sakai with Singular Research.

Joichi Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research.

I just wanted to ask about OptoSeis. The acquisition, how much extra will that acquisition add to total operating expenses?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst · Singular Research.

Well, it's definitely going to add some. I mean -- but it's not really -- there's not a lot of people associated with that acquisition. I think it's about 13 or so. There is a facility in Austin that they're currently involved in that will also go in our books as an expense. But we feel fully accommodating to absorb those additional expenses within our normal progression. So they're not going to be some huge addition as it were.

Joichi Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research.

Okay, great. Also for 2019, can you comment on the number and the amount of contracts that you guys have already in place?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst · Singular Research.

Well, for the OBX, we have the two contracts, the long-term contracts that we mentioned in August. We don't have any other. We have an existing performing contract in addition to that one that's currently operating for OBX products. But the others are under negotiation and still working with customers with respect to them securing those jobs.

Thomas McEntire

Analyst · Singular Research.

Chris, this is Tom. We can really only speak to the contracts we have publicly announced and those are significant contracts. We have many other minor contracts that we enter into routinely that are just in the ordinary course of business, which do not get announced and we're not really privy to talk about those. But the significant ones have been announced.

Joichi Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research.

Okay, great. I mean -- so do think the OptoSeis acquisition will further help you gain more contracts?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst · Singular Research.

Well, absolutely. We probably wouldn't have been interested in buying them had they not provided an additional set of arrows in the quiver. The PRM market has been one that, if you look back, has gone through a very long dry spell for the most part, with only 1 being awarded in the last several years. It's our understanding and the discussions tend to lead us to this understanding that the interest in that is rekindling. It's a very useful technology to apply for offshore marine reserves in terms of managing them and optimizing their production. So we certainly believe this adds to our ability as that market improves to be able to have a broader offering to those in the market.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Roger Hare with Firewall Management [ph].

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I have another question on OptoSeis. Just -- I was wondering if -- maybe it's a little premature, if you could comment on how you see the integration going. I know you have very good cabling capabilities and do you need to get additional engineers? Are they coming over? Is this -- or is this something you may have to outsource if you do get a contract?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

Excellent questions. And one of the issues there is that, as you say, we are already manufacturers of lot of types of components that go into that system, be they fiber optics or otherwise about particularly as it relates to cabling. The other thing is that there are similarities in the construction of the geophone sensors that we make that are very analogous to what has to go on with the fiber optic point centers. And so we expect quite a bit of overlap with respect to the skill sets that we have in our manufacturing ranks to make these. So we're -- we definitely believe that we're going to be able to accomplish that within our own -- under our own route, as it were, and not to have to really sub-contract that out. But we do have some additional work to accomplish for that to take place. But it's certainly on our list of top items.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. All right. And would you -- do you have any -- I imagine, do you have any thoughts on how the border security might open up in terms of potential business at this time or as a security business?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

Roger, if you look at the opportunities, they're very large. I mean, there's a considerable amount of -- not just within the U.S., but they are considerable occasions of security need, mostly governmental and country oriented, with respect to their borders. And certainly, the level of products that have been provided to that industry have been, for the most part, rather unsophisticated. And applying the technologies that we've done in the oil and gas industry and seismic and then applying on top of that the analytics the Quantum has developed, we really believe it, it just puts together possibilities that really open up that market in ways that hasn't been before. So we think the opportunities are great. Signed contracts have not occurred, but discussions are underway with some that would be very big revenue generators.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from David Nierenberg with Nierenberg.

David Nierenberg

Analyst · Nierenberg.

You guys have been, for years, such conservative and capable stewards of balance sheet preservation that you have not only live to see another day, but you're making strategic acquisitions, prudently by the way. And I have noticed in the last several quarters that there have been some additions to -- made to rental inventory. But Tom's comment this morning about the size of the inventory add that you're contemplating, maybe one of the most significant things you've said today. And given how conservative you have been, I can only imagine that if you're thinking of an inventory build of that magnitude, you must be feeling pretty darn good about the recovery prospects for the markets that you serve. So this question is intended to draw out even more color from you about what is leading you to forecast that you will be making rental inventory additions of that magnitude?

Walter Wheeler

Analyst · Nierenberg.

Sure. Well, I can summarize a little bit of this to the extent that, if we go back and we look over the last actually couple of years, the clientele list, the customer list of those that use our OBX equipment has steadily grown. It started out with 3 or 4, I mean, now the list is long, with respect to those that have used this equipment, have demonstrated that it works. Moreover, the industry, the oil and gas companies have seen the good results that these surveys have produced. And to that extent, as you and I sit here talking today, there is more demand for this equipment than the amount of equipment that exists. And they're having to be turned down in some sense. The 2 contracts that we recently announced in August are certainly a demonstration of the veracity of what that market is looking like. And the fact that we can satisfy some of the demand that we're being asked to try to serve in our current circumstances, what leads us to make those investments.

David Nierenberg

Analyst · Nierenberg.

Rick, that's what I call a high-quality problem. And that's a lot better than low-quality problems.

Walter Wheeler

Analyst · Nierenberg.

It certainly is.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from a follow up from Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital.

William Dezellem

Analyst · Tieton Capital.

Relative to OBX and GSX, how many rental days and how many units were those days on for this quarter? And how does that compare to the June quarter and the September '17 quarter?

Thomas McEntire

Analyst · Tieton Capital.

We don't publish that information, Bill, specifically. But if you look at the rental revenues in the financial statements, predominantly, most of that rental revenue is from OBX. And so you'll see a substantial increase in fourth quarter this year versus fourth quarter last year as well as for the full year. So I -- I'm going to guess that the rental days in our fourth quarter were exceeding those in the third quarter because we were fully rented and we were probably just getting some of the stuff out in the third quarter. But you should continue to see increasing revenues quarter-over-quarter from OBX as we fulfill the deliveries of these contracts.

William Dezellem

Analyst · Tieton Capital.

And are you seeing any rejuvenated interest in GSX rentals?

Thomas McEntire

Analyst · Tieton Capital.

It's pretty steady right now. Pretty flat, I guess, is probably the best word.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions on the line at this time. I'll return the program to Mr. Rick Wheeler and Mr. Tom McEntire.

Walter Wheeler

Analyst

All right. Well, thank you, David. And I certainly thank everyone that joined our call today and asked these questions. That concludes this call. And we look forward to speaking to you on our conference call for the first quarter of fiscal year 2019 sometime in February. Thanks, and goodbye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. Please disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.