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Grid Dynamics Holdings, Inc. (GDYN)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 3, 2024

$5.59

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Cary Savas

Management

Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Grid Dynamics Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. I'm Cary Savas, Director of Branding and Communications. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Joining us on the call today are CEO, Leonard Livschitz; and CFO, Anil Doradla. Following their prepared remarks, we will open the call to your questions. Please note that today's conference is being recorded. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements. This includes our business and financial outlook and the answers to some of your questions. Such statements are subject to the risks and uncertainty as described in the company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC. During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP measures of our performance. GAAP to non-GAAP financial reconciliations and supplemental financial information are provided in the earnings press release and the 8-K filed with the SEC. You can find all the information I just described in the Investor Relations section of our website. I'll now turn the call over to Leonard, our CEO.

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Thank you, Cary. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Grid Dynamics second quarter results were above our guidance range and exceeded Wall Street expectations, both on revenue and non-GAAP EBITDA. We achieved important milestones in the quarter. I'm happy to report that our second quarter revenue was the highest in the company's history and all of it was an organic nature. We also exited the second quarter with the highest number of billable engineers in the company's history. The strong results were due to the strengths from both existing and new customers and are commendable given the recent backdrop of economic cycles. It is a clear testament that Grid Dynamics efforts to stay in the course and maintain laser focus in delivering value to our customers is paying off. Our stated goals around the company grows profitability and becoming a $1 billion revenue company remaining unchanged. In many ways, our second quarter revenue growth of 4% on a sequential basis reflects the company's differentiation. Last quarter, I highlighted the key factors influencing our growth and discuss how we're uniquely positioned across the IT industry. These were, first, our revenue represents a small proportion of our customers or on spend and therefore, the opportunities for growth significant. Second, the new deals that we're winning are tied up to our customer key area of focus, and in many cases, are mission critical. Third, across the majority of our customers who are seeing their spending level either being maintained in the current level or increasing. And finally, fourth, the headwind we were facing last year were driven by drops of the handful of customers. This trend has reversed. And many of those customers have reverted to growth. There are many exciting trends that's just shaping our business, some of…

Anil Doradla

Management

Thanks, Leonard. Good afternoon, everyone. Our second quarter results were solid as we exceeded our expectations, both on revenue and non-GAAP EBITDA. Our second quarter revenue of $83 million was ahead of our guidance range of $80 million to $82 million, and our non-GAAP EBITDA of $11.7 million was ahead of our guidance range of $10.5 million and $11.5 million. The strong results were driven from a wide range of customers across industry verticals. During the second quarter, our retail and TMT were the two largest verticals at 32.2% and 28% of our revenues, respectively. Our retail vertical grew 8.7% and 2.9% on a sequential and year-over-year basis, respectively. On a sequential basis, we witnessed growth from multiple customers in the specialty retail and home improvement space. TMT decreased by 3.3% and 3.6% on a sequential and year-over-year basis, respectively. On a sequential basis, the decline largely came from a couple of factors that included a decline in revenue from a technology startup in the security space. Coming to our largest customer in our TMT vertical, it grew both on a sequential and year-over-year basis. Here are the details of the revenue mix of other verticals. Our CPG and manufacturing represented 11.9% of our revenue in the second quarter, an increase of 3% on a sequential basis and a drop of 9.5% on a year-over-year basis. Revenues from the top 3 customers in our CPG and manufacturing vertical grew on a sequential basis. Our finance vertical was the strongest, both on a sequential and year-over-year basis. Similar to last quarter, the growth from customers across the fintech and insurance space. Our newly disaggregated health care and pharma represented 3.8% of our revenues and showed a 5% increase on a sequential basis and 14.8% decrease on a year-over-year basis. And finally,…

A - Cary Savas

Operator

Thank you, Anil. [Operator Instructions] The first question will come from Maggie Nolan of William Blair. Go ahead.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

Hey how are you doing?

Anil Doradla

Management

Good. Thanks, Maggie.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

Congratulations. So I wanted to ask about the talent landscape for you all. So you're back to hiring some time has passed since you've reorganized the footprint of the business since you started talking about Follow-the-Sun as well as the thought structure that you rolled out. So I'm curious how you're thinking about managing margins from here on an account-by-account basis now that you have all these different pieces in place and how we might start to see that manifest in the P&L?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Well, you just answered the question, right Maggie? So managing the margins account per account for the key accounts is that what really it comes down to right now. As you can see from the hiring perspective, we continue to hire across all the regions where we execute Follow-the-Sun program. There is definitely emphasis on India. India continues to expand. We still put a lot of effort in Europe, but we are doing a little bit more, I would say, smart hiring because we're again adding more interns for the program which we bring engineers and we promote within. And as the projects have stabilized and grow with the part solution offering, we're able to expand on the breadth of the keeps. And when you have a deeper projects, you can actually manage your cost efficiency within the teams as well. But the short answer is yes. The key is to manage profitability for key client.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

Thank you. And then you also talked about maybe an increased willingness of customers to either maintain or even increase their spend. I'm wondering if there is a notable change in the scope of projects, type of projects, duration of projects as you see that resurgence of willingness to spend. Any thoughts you might have on why this is slightly different from some of your competitors in the space.

Leonard Livschitz

Management

So I think that fundamentally, when we talk about our differentiation, it's always been the market for Grid Dynamics to be focused on technology projects. And when we do technology projects, the scope is around solutions, which greatly impact the sales. So the reason -- as you know a big part of my conversation was about AI. It's not about just being fashionable. But it's also we have a possibility to implement the number of the internal solutions, which we continue to roll out which I also noted from the pro concept state point to the implementation of the broader base. So yes, technology still stays in the core focus. We are quite broadened the number of platforms, which we use for our innovative AI projects starting around the open source products to specialized solutions to the private models, building the co-pilots together with the clients. And also as we expand our partnerships, there is a deeper breadth of, again, implementation of those projects with the clients. So just to summarize, technology focus breadth of AI, I'm moving from the conceptual stage to broad implementation. And certainly, reputation, which come with that over years of Grid Dynamics managing various data aspects of our clients.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Leonard and Anil congrats again.

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Thank you, Maggie.

Anil Doradla

Management

Can we go to the next question?

Cary Savas

Management

The next question goes to Gates Schwartzmann from Citi. Please go ahead, Gates. Gates are you there?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Gate, will come back you. Cary, why don’t we go to the next?

Cary Savas

Management

The next question comes from Bryan Bergin of TD Cowen. Bryan, please go ahead.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks, good to see you. I wanted to start on the guidance. It's nice to see the sequential performance in the 2Q and then what's implied in the 3Q, the continued momentum there. As you develop the 3Q plan and consider the balance of the year into 4Q, can you just share some perspective on whether there was thought to reinstating that full year outlook? I'm asking just curious as a signal around overall business visibility.

Anil Doradla

Management

So Brian, this is a very good question because this is a constant discussion. I think let me leave a couple of thoughts here. Number one is that things are improving. So the likelihood of me installing a full year guidance is higher than what it was maybe a month ago, two months ago or three months ago. So we're moving in that right direction. Look, we tend to be conservative. When we are ready for it, we will put it out. But the bias internally is for a full year guidance, Leonard's inclination is to try to give as much visibility as we can for the Street. So that's what we're working on. So at the right time, we will go out and put it. But definitely, we have more of a bias to get to that point.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst

Okay, make sense. And then just on the new logos, can you speak to some of the pace of the scaling of these larger enterprise logos you've had good momentum in each quarter here signing several, but those that are ramping faster too. Can you maybe speak to some of the trends in those new relationships that may be common?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Well, the story is not any different from the years of growth, Byran. Each with the client on a RapidScale, and I'm talking about RapidScale, Usually, there is a familiarity with Grid Dynamics from the past. So when you sign a logo where you come from the, I would say, new relationship or partnerships, typically, the projects start relatively small. So it's still land and expect. Usually, it's from highly technical field. Basically, the big enterprise approach Grid Dynamics on referrals to become their technology partners. In a couple of influences the thought that help from very large rapid firms. Perhaps they didn't find that reflection of the specific needs or maybe focused, I would say, attention. And we rapidly picked it up. And we're kind of shifting our relationship with the clients also to understand their business models. So it helps to be a technically astute, but also a bit more business saving. But a couple of instances where we had the leadership of the clients known us for a long time. And those kind of best to thrust because you don't need to prove yourself anymore. You basically get to the point that you're giving business based on your past performance, but you have to rapidly adapt and deliver. And there are a couple of instances of that has happened. As we grow, we've been around for 18 years. Those it are more common. So three cases. The new relationships as well as the partnerships, they grow from technology up. The existing relationship, RapidScale in terms of major implementation across multiple fields.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst

Great. That’s helpful. Thank you very much.

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Thank you, Bryan.

Cary Savas

Management

Thank you, Bryan. The next question comes from Mayank Tandon at Needham. Mayank, please unmute yourself and you can start your video.

Mayank Tandon

Analyst

Yeah, can you guys hear me?

Anil Doradla

Management

Yes, Mayank. We can hear you.

Mayank Tandon

Analyst

I’m trying to restart my video, let’s see. Yeah, hi. Thank you for taking my question. Good evening, Leonard, Anil. Congrats on the quarter. I wanted to ask you on the revenue growth for the third quarter. And as you look ahead, could you unpack the growth in terms of headcount additions, utilization? How much more room do you have to expand it and also pricing? Is there more leverage on the upside? Or is pricing basically running flattish at this time?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

I’m taking it as the privilege of Anil. Obviously he rolls on [Indiscernible] where you’ll never understand you have some [indiscernible]. But let me try to focus on the key areas because it's a very fundamental question. So I don't see a rapid increase of the pricing per client. In some instances, it's not about increasing the pricing. It's about fair value for the solutions. So when you go to T&M, it's seldom. But when you go into the project base, when you offer a customer a complete proposals that does happen in some of the impact because, again, at end of the day, it’s ROI. At the end of the day, it’s total amount of dollars looked at how much business, how competitive advance is. So the big part is there's no miracle there. Demand is still to the point we have to be smart about pricing. But we see some of those improvements definitely. The other thing is balancing the teams, as I mentioned, that Maggie asked the question, bringing this broader vertically integrated organizations created a higher, I would say, utilization of the broader base people. When you are studying projects, and Bryan asked us who grows and how that impacts. You typically start with very experienced people. And that is not the best margin solution unless you build broader capabilities with all the clients, and we see those broader capabilities coming into play. So if I summarize some of them, I'm making up the growth. Demand is definitely present to Grid Dynamics. When we purely focus on one area, then maybe there's no like a big change of the financial performance, but were expanding now into multiple areas. We see the efficiencies. And the efficiency come with a pyramid of talent, which is -- even during the most dairies downturns, we did not slow down on the internship program on the training program on the internal university program. So those kind of things picked up. And of course, the investment in R&D, when we build more than 30 solutions. They're not just a resolution, they're almost like auction. When people say, I did 100, I did 200, some 5,000, we are more conservative. When we're talking about solutions, it's a fundamental actionable set of rules we drive immediate customer implementation. And when you talk about Fortune 500 that brings that kind of implementation to both performance and financial efficiency. I hope I gave you a little bit of flavor, but ---

Mayank Tandon

Analyst

Yeah. As a quick follow-up, Leonard and Anil, I wanted to also dive into the clients where you have top 5, top 10. Where do you see them in terms of penetration? Is there more headroom to grow within these clients? Or do you think the growth is going to really come from your non-top 10 as you look beyond 2024 to 2025 and other?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Well, let me start. We just went through our internal executive reviews because it's good on a semi-annual basis assess where you are. So we just finished it. Our strategy comes threefold. The top client, the second most potential plans, meaning the large companies where our footprint is still smaller and the new innovative clients coming either through the hunting or the partnerships. And as you look at our breakdown, no matter what we do, there is still concentration. And this is a different form of shape. Not the same as was some years ago, we were more diverse on an industry basis, but still we have heavy hitters. And with those heavy hitters, you need to make sure you leave with the 24/7 because our success and their success so tightly coupled and when some of them went down in the past quarters, it had damage for us. We're carefully selecting the companies together with the client, which not only inspired to grow and have funds to grow, but dynamic for their own markets help them. So that's from the top tier. From the second tier, we have growth with every client potential. Because you only have some millions of dollars, and those are large clients, then it's our responsibility to offer them competitively, something which makes their business more successful. And this is where we doubled down on technology penetration. So the first rows 24/7. The second one, very selective. And we have those green shoots already start to fruition which means some of them take off, some of them don't, and then we need to understand why not? And the third group, we are spending disproportionate amount of attention to the partnerships because those roles are amazing, but the scope of projects are limited. So we have enough trust with our partners that we can work with them on their own implementations, but also look in parallel to something complete incomparable with. Their mission will help direct clients to grow together. So together, that's kind of focus. So it's a one, two, three.

Mayank Tandon

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you so much, Leonard. Thank you.

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Thank you.

Cary Savas

Management

Thank you, Mayank. Appreciate your questions. The next question comes from Puneet Jain of JPMorgan. Go ahead, Puneet. You’re on mute.

Anil Doradla

Management

Puneet, I think you’re on mute.

Cary Savas

Management

Puneet, go ahead sir. Hey, Puneet. You’re now connected sir.

Puneet Jain

Analyst

Okay. I just asked all my questions. So thanks, anyway. So this quarter -- the last couple of years, you have added like around 50, 60 enterprise customers. Some of them, for example, the one in financial therapies have done really well. But give us like the state of union on those enterprise clients that you added for some of them, like certainly the ones that might still be somewhat under scale, like what's keeping them from ramping up? And what the potential is for that client?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Basically expanding on the previous question of my about the second group not the top one. Everybody based about successes, what happened with the quiet group, the silent majority. Well, that's why we had this very deep account by account review. And because, again, there are not a huge number of them. There may be 25 to 30 of those clients who stuck in this position of transitioning from 2, 5, 10 to 5, 10, 20, but still more between 5 and 10 instead of 10 and 20. This is exactly where I would say, the thrust is because once you pass a certain level of capacity relationship, you certainly become a preferred supplier. And then hedge of the consolidation, which we also mentioned, staying relevant, you have to be useful, not just to one team, but to many. So from that perspective, we selected about half of those clients as you can run after everyone which they are in different industries, but they have a couple of major, I would say, factors. First of all, we have an alignment on technology road map. With all the greatness of technology, technology by itself, even AI makes zero value unless it's fully supported and expanded and plan for with the clients. They need to have a mindset. They need to have capability, they need to willingness, business cases and patients. It's very easy to do pro of concept. And then they report to the top management saying, okay, we've done it. It's not business. So with about half of those clients, I would say, a dozen and they have or something like that, we want to go much deeper to actually engage into the more business key studies answering ourselves and then the question is, why not? We're not changing our business now. We're not doing like BPOs or any kind of low-end services. So for us, expansion and it's how to proliferate the data business, the cloud business, assessment of cyber securities, learning from that horrible essence of the IT challenges, which happened on the cloud, how to create mission-critical solutions with all the predictable models but still relevant to them. So that group, which we're going to continue to focus, and that's where the, I would say, short-term growth comes from.

Puneet Jain

Analyst

That’s wonderful. And then you have like about $250 million in cash on balance sheet. And in the press release, I noticed like you talked about that most of the growth or all the growth is organic now, meaning that it's been more than a year since you last did an acquisition. So talk to us about your use of cash priorities over the near term? And what are you looking for in potential M&A target?

Leonard Livschitz

Management

So the person you don't see in a room because he's got behind the scene is our Head of M&A group. So I'm going to put them on the stage to tell you what to do because he may tell you way too much than what we want to tell you. But I think that the level of engagement is tremendous right now. I think there are a couple of reasons. First of all, remember, the geographic. We're talking about technology with clients and geography. I think the stars kind of aligned, we have all the geography we're looking for, all of them right now. And technology is pretty decent. I would not say we're going to make a breakthrough. If everybody can make a breakthrough then why would companies exit? They need to have -- we found the companies which need to have help from the [Indiscernible] call me a big brother. We're still a modern-sized company, but from a technology perspective, we're quite formidable. And they're passionate about to continue the journey as a part of the bigger teams. Now I can't tell you when the date is going to come. What did you say about that going for an annual report? You are more inclined to do now than before. It sounds like we're all waiting for fans to change the rate. So I'm also inclined to be very positive in the next couple of weeks and months, but you have to be very patient. And the reason we're very bullish on it because I think we found the rhythm. It was very important because when you look at the past our four acquisitions, we look at the value we need to bring in 2025 and on. And I think the company, when we go through this period of the slowdown, it matures. Like you all say, if you can't find a job going extend your education. So it's worked for the last 12 months. I believe we're on a very good path now.

Puneet Jain

Analyst

That’s good to know. Thank you.

Anil Doradla

Management

Thank you, Puneet.

Cary Savas

Management

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Q&A session of our call today. I will now turn it over to Leonard for closing comments.

Leonard Livschitz

Management

Thank you, everybody, for joining us on the call today. Our message today is consistent with the commentary over the past couple of quarters, steady improvement in Grid Dynamics business. Visibility is getting better. Customers are more willing to put their plans into spend and more importantly, customers are laser-focused on evaluating the technological competencies of their IT partners. I'm excited about these opportunities in the second half of 2024 as well as the coming 2025. Looking forward to giving you all updates in the next earnings call. Thank you.