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Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, Sep 6, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to the Genesco Second Quarter Fiscal 2020 Conference Call. Just a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Dave Slater, Vice President of FP&A and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Dave Slater

Management

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our second quarter 2020 results and our full year fiscal 2020 outlook. With me on the call today are: Bob Dennis, Genesco's: Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mimi Vaughn, our Chief Operating Officer; and Mel Tucker, our Chief Financial Officer. Participants on the call expect to make forward-looking statements. These statements reflect the participants' expectations as of today, but actual results could be different. Genesco refers you to this morning's earnings release and the Company's SEC filings, including the most recent 10-K filing for some of the factors that could cause differences -- from the expectations reflected in the forward-looking statements made during the call today. Participants also expect to refer to certain adjusted financial measures during the call. All non-GAAP financial measures referred to in the prepared remarks are reconciled to their GAAP counterparts in the attachments to this morning's press release and in schedules available on the Company's homepage under Investor Relations in the Quarterly Earnings Section. I want to remind everyone that we have posted a presentation, summarizing our results and guidance that is accessible on our website. As another reminder, we filed an 8-K in connection with our late – with our last release in Q1 that contains adjusted non-GAAP fiscal 2019 results by quarter for the last year, restated to reflect the sale Lids Sports Group as if we never owned the business per GAAP requirements. You can find that on our website as well. Now I'd like to turn it over to Bob.

Bob Dennis

Management

Thanks, Dave. We have two new people in the room with us today. Just heard from Dave Slater, Dave joins us with over 20 years of retail experience with leadership roles at Chico’s FAS, Dollar Tree, and WalMart. Dave will be leading our Investor Relations function as well as our Financial Planning & Analysis team. We are excited to have someone with his relevant retail background join our team. As Dave mentioned, we are also joined today by our Chief Operating Officer, Mimi Vaughn; and for the first time, Mel Tucker, our new Chief Financial Officer. Mel joined Genesco in June from Century 21, the New York-based Department Store where he was CFO since 2014. Mel also has extensive retail experience having served in senior financial role with leading companies such as Bass Pro Shops, PetSmart, and Home Depot during his 25-year career. And we are thrilled to have someone of his caliber on our team and so welcome to you both. In a moment, Mel will review our recent performance and updated outlook in detail and Mimi will cover some specific topics that could have potential impact on our business and the progress we were making on the Schuh 20-point plan. But first, let me walk through the highlights from the second quarter. From a high level, our consolidated results exceeded expectations across the board. The performance of our U.S. footwear businesses; Journeys in particular, fueled a 3% increase in consolidated comps our 9th consecutive quarter of positive consolidated comparable sales for our footwear businesses. We were particularly pleased with this result, given the more challenging step comp comparisons we faced as we moved from the first into the second quarter. Importantly, our overall brick-and-mortar performance remained in positive territory and e-commerce comp sales accelerated to 20% continuing its…

Mel Tucker

Management

Thanks, Bob. Good morning, everyone. As Bob said, we were very pleased with our second quarter performance. Our year-over-year profit improvement was led by Journeys with Johnston & Murphy and Licensed Brands each contributing to the improved results. Adjusted EPS grew considerably to $0.15 from negative $0.01 in the prior year, driven by solid comps, improved gross margins, both of which contributed to beat versus expectations. This was partially offset by some SG&A deleverage in this lowest volume quarter, which small increases in expenses can have an outsized impact. Q2 consolidated revenue was flat with last year at $487 million. Excluding the effect of lower exchange rates, revenue was up 1%. Consolidated comps were up 3% with store comps up 1% and direct comps up 20%. Positive comps were offset to some extent by lower wholesale sales and closed stores. Direct, as a percent of total retail sales, was 10% in Q2, up 150 basis points, accelerating the good progress we continue to make driving e-commerce. As a reminder, we run our e-commerce business to be a profit center. We could grow e-comm more rapidly with higher marketing expense and more free shipping and return offers, we choose instead to keep an emphasis on profitable growth. Journeys posted a solid comp increase of 4% on top of a robust 10% gain last year, marking the 9th consecutive quarter of increases highlighted by both positive store comps and strong double-digit e-commerce growth. Comp sales on a 2-year stack basis improved from Q1 to Q2. Highlights of Q2 store performance included mid-single-digit increases in conversion and a low single-digit increase in transaction size, which drove a strong comp in spite of less store traffic. Schuh posted flat comp sales for the quarter in spite of a challenging macroeconomic environment in the U.K.…

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Thank you Mel. Good morning everybody. As we've discussed, it's been a strong first six months of fiscal 2020 and we're heading into our busiest selling season with nice momentum. While we feel good about our prospects for the year, evidenced by our heightened outlook both tariffs and Brexit present possible headwinds and we're taking specific actions to mitigate their potential effect. Most importantly, we continue to root for a successful resolution of trade negotiations with China. As far as the fourth tranche of tariffs effective on September one and December 15, we don't believe the impact will be significant in this fiscal year and haven't yet included anything in our annual guidance as it remains a very fluid and dynamic situation. On an annual basis, currently about 1/3 of our merchandise is imported from China, with approximately 10% from direct imports and the remaining amount imported by our third-party vendors. So to give the details in terms of direct exposure, we develop and directly source merchandise for Johnston & Murphy and Licensed Brands, which together were a little less than 20% of our total sales in fiscal 2019. Of those goods, approximately 50% currently comes from China with a more heavy weighting to Licensed Brands, resulting in direct sourcing from China for merchandise representing a little less than 10% of our sales in total. Since most of this product is leather shoes, the tariffs unfortunately went into effect at the start of September versus in mid-December. We pulled forward as much inventory as we could for receipt ahead of September the 1st and have been working with our vendors to share the now higher cost. The devaluation of the Chinese yuan is also helping lessen the near-term impact. We currently estimate the potential impact to our bottom line in…

Bob Dennis

Management

Thanks Mimi. The strong start to the year, including our ninth consecutive quarter of positive comp sales as a footwear company is a testament to the dedication, commitment and hard work we glorify our employees on a daily basis. There are not many who can boast of this track record of successive positive comps, and with the solid start to the third quarter, the current trend continues knock on wood, we are on our way to adding a 10th. We want to recognize the contributions of all of our employees and tell you how much we appreciate you. In addition to our team's ability to execute, there are several reasons we are optimistic about our future. Our company is anchored by well-known brands with strong consumer connections and loyalty, positioning us well in today's volatile retail world. Bolstering our confidence is the fact that we were early to invest in digital and omni-channel infrastructures and today enjoy advanced capabilities allowing us to connect with and serve our customers whenever and however they choose. The combination of our digital offerings and fleet of stores and important strategic assets represents a powerful platforms to win with today's empowered consumer, and emerge as a clear winner in the ongoing consolidation of retail. We are working hard to reposition all our stores with shorter more favorable lease terms, which gives us ultimate flexibility. And now as a footwear-focused company, the synergies among our businesses provide us with even more opportunities to drive enhanced profitability and greater shareholder value over the long-term. We are truly stronger together. And with that said, operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we will take our first question from Janine Stichter with Jefferies.

Janine Stichter

Analyst

Good morning everyone. Congrats on the strong quarter.

Bob Dennis

Management

Thanks.

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Thank you.

Janine Stichter

Analyst

Just hoping if you could give a little bit perspective on Journeys. It seems like the strength you're seeing there is pretty broad based. If you can just give us some perspective on what the concentration looks like whether it's by brand our by style that you're seeing right now? And then maybe some thoughts on how you're thinking about boots for the holiday season? And then kind of along those lines also the e-commerce business really strong this quarter. So, just any thoughts on what you're doing there that's maybe driving that growth? Thank you.

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Sure. So Janine just to start with the perspective on the brands, and we've talked about this retro athletic trend that started with certain brands and it really has morphed into demand for other brands. And so this trend had a lot of legs, because many of those athletics brands that we carry have retro styles in their libraries really spanning back. And so, the brands and the styles driving the business today aren't the ones that were driving the business two years ago. So we've seen nice rotation within our business, and we are very pleased with the breadth of the comp drivers lately. Casual has been adding to the mix while at the same time we have seen athletic continue to be strong. We had a very nice sandal season, a strong sandal season over the course of the summer. And we had a strong boot season last year. So, we'll see about the coming boot season. It's a little too early to tell the temperatures across the country, at least Nashville this week is in excess of 90 degrees. So it's hard to get a clear reading on the boot season as yet, but we feel like we're well diversified across brands and across franchises. There's a lot of newness in what we've been seeing. We are particularly pleased with the progress, as I said that we are making in casual. On e-commerce growth for the upcoming holiday season, look, we continue to make great progress within e-commerce. Some of the things that we're doing is we're just investing, and I think Mel said it on the call, he said that, we run our e-commerce business to make profit. So we measure carefully some of the investments that we're making and ensure that we're getting positive returns for that, but we have been spending more on paid search, we have been spending more on catalogs. It's been a really effective tool to drive traffic not only to our websites, but also to our stores. And we have a really nice set of investments that we've made in systems like order management that have given us some robust capabilities.

Janine Stichter

Analyst

Helpful color. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And we will take our next question from Jonathan Komp with Baird. Please go ahead.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Yes. Hi. Thank you. Maybe just a follow-up on Journeys, I know the business is performing well against tough comparisons. The comparisons stay fairly tough. So if you could give any more color on how you're thinking about the sustainability there? I know you're embedding lower comps but you've exceeded the plan recently. So I'm curious, the potential for that trend to continue as you look forward in the business as a seasonal mix changes.

Bob Dennis

Management

Yes. There's not a whole lot more to say. This is Bob. The second quarter, the notable thing about the second quarter was, we were comping against two years for the first time of positive comps and we continue to run up. So we believe we're gaining share. And we think the trends that were driving the business in the second quarter, they obviously, as we disclosed, persisted through back-to-school, and so we feel like we've got a good assortment for holidays. So we're feeling good. The only thing that modifies a little bit our outlook relative to how Journeys did in the first half is the comparison. They got tougher especially in the fourth quarter. So we're being a little, in our guidance, a little more muted in our comp expectations. But it's not because we don't think the business is strong, we just think the compares are up there. So it's about all we can say about Journeys.

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Yes. And the only thing that I would point out is that we move from a two-year stack of plus 1% in Journeys to plus 11% in the second quarter and we performed really well against that. So in spite of the fact that there are equally tough compares in the back part of the year, if we put that performance up in the second quarter, it does bode well for the back half.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then maybe just a similar question for Schuh, I know you outperformed in the quarter, but didn't change the comp outlook. So is that embedding in conservatism given all the factors we talked about Mimi, or how should we read the second half outlook there?

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Yes. I think I'd start by saying that we feel like we have a really good underlying business at Schuh. We've got advanced technology there. We've got a strong customer service orientation and we've got a really good experienced management team. It's been a very challenging environment. We feel like our 20-point plan focusing on near-term profitability is good. And as you said our comps were better for the quarter than we expected. The thing and really just a highlight for the back part of the year is that there's just a lot of uncertainty in the U.K. It's like watching a ping-pong match where every few hours there's this new information out there around Brexit. And so just being cognizant of that, I think that's what has caused us to continue to be conservative in the back half. We'll see how things develop from here.

Bob Dennis

Management

And with Schuh, what's worth keeping in mind is, in the U.K., as we noted in the opening remarks, there's been an even more pronounced shift towards e-commerce and away from stores. Traffic on the High Street has been even tougher. The good news for us is long ago, I'm even predating our acquisition of Schuh they were out ahead of digital and omnichannel in a big way. They regularly get rated as the best, if not one of the best, and sometimes the best omnichannel, all-in retailer in the U.K. And those capabilities are becoming our friend in a big way. So with that -- as that shift -- and that's what happened in the quarter. They were negative in the stores, but very strongly positive online and they just got a terrific machine for serving the customer in a way that that customer now wants to be served. So that helps build some confidence.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. Then last one for me just on the profit outlook. Maybe first if you could remind us the $12 million to $15 million of stranded cost, is that an annualized number? And how should we think about kind of the impact you're embedding by quarter on a rough basis? And then might be early for this Mel, but I'm curious kind of coming in with a fresh look, if there's any areas that you see bringing in your perspective that might be able to go further in terms of some of the cost savings opportunities that the company has been pursuing, or if you think it will be pursuing kind of the status quo in terms of the areas that have already been looked at?

Mimi Vaughn

Management

So I'm going to take the stranded cost question and then hand it to Mel just to talk about some of the profit improvement initiatives that we continue to pursue for this year. But we've said $12 million to $15 million of stranded cost and that is over the course of a fiscal year. I would just remind you that we shared expenses in areas like IT and HR and Finance with Lids. And in the first half of this year, if you think about it, we were providing these – so we continue to provide these services to Lids. And so, while we have the cost we also were getting some revenue to cover those costs. We've talked about Lids unplugging even faster than we expected. By the end of next year, we think we can eliminate most of these costs out. That would all be about perhaps $2 million to $3 million of that expense. So it's just going to take a little time because we need to renegotiate contracts and reorganize some of the work and reinvent how we go at some of this work. We've got to sell those building and we have a path but it will take some time. So that really is, what is weighing the SG&A expense in the back half of the year is just our -- anticipating that we're going to carry these costs. We've got really good plans in place. We've got people who are working to eliminate these costs and to the extent that we can make progress faster than we've got planned out. Then that will be good for the bottom line for the business. And I'll turn it to Mel just to talk a little bit about the profit improvement and cost savings.

Mel Tucker

Management

Yes. So I would just echo kind of what Mimi has said. And I think that the important thing is, we've got a line of sight to eliminating these costs. It's just a matter of taking action to get it out. So, while we have a line of sight really the question in my mind is just the timing of when we're going to take it out. We're kind of at a starting stop, but we're now moving forward and taking action or removing the cost. I think the divisions have done a very nice job of identifying opportunities on their P&L to pull costs. So the $12 million to $15 million in stranded costs we think most of that's going to go away. We have also challenged him to go out and get some more program total of roughly $20 million in cost takeout. I expect a good piece of that to be out on an annualized basis as we end the year, but the rest of it coming in the first half of next year and we don't have full line of sight to the entire $20 million now, but the piece this $12 million to $15 million we do.

Jonathan Komp

Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.

Okay. That’s very helpful. Thank you all.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Steve Marotta with CL King & Associates. Please go ahead.

Steve Marotta

Analyst

Good morning Bob, Mimi, Mel and Dave. Mimi just to reiterate, I want to clarify, you mentioned that this year based on the timing of the tariffs and the mitigating factors that you've implemented so far basically bringing items in a little bit earlier that there's $1 million of direct COGS exposure in the current fiscal year to the incremental tariffs. Is that accurate?

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Yes. That's right. And that's mostly associated with the products that we bring in directly. I think that I just want to give a shout out to our Johnston & Murphy and our Licensed Brands team. They -- we've been having tariff talks, I think going on since much earlier this year since the spring, but they got on the issue right away. They've done a great job of pulling product forward as much as possible. We originally thought tariffs might go into place in August. And so they went out and they pulled this product forward. And ever since we've heard about the September tariffs, our teams went back to work renegotiating with factories to contribute and have had lots of success in getting factories to say, okay, we'll help absorb some of this cost. A small amount of the product is expected by this year because you can imagine we landed much of the product that we're going to sell in the early fall and so the exposure that we had is really in the very back part of the year. And so, we're hopeful for some resolution of trade overall, but considering everything that we have right now the $1 million is associated with the goods that we import. We really have got nothing from any of our third-party footwear vendors about price increases. So that from our view right now, should not have an impact.

Steve Marotta

Analyst

Very helpful. And Bob roughly three years ago there was a switch from a trend standpoint to retro, and it caught everybody by surprise as related to the swiftness of that change. So it's kind of a two-part question. One is, are you seeing anything new that might be different than the retro trends say a year from now? And layered on to that is, what kind of processes are in place now that may not have been three years ago so that even a swift change in trend might not mean such a headwind to comps and current merchandise?

Bob Dennis

Management

Well, Steve, great question. I'll frustrate you in several ways. First off, if we did see a forward trend that was going to change the landscape of the merchandise, we wouldn't tell you, as we consider that competitive advantage. What we said previously is absolutely the case, which is having seen a good back-to-school with the assortment that is currently working in having good visibility on what the assortment is going to look like for holiday. We obviously feel good about where we're headed hence the guidance. I'm never going to promise you that a overnight rotation in fashion from the teenage crowd is never going to happen. And so it's a little hard to be predictive of that. What we are doing is trying to stay as diversified as we can with respect to vendors and franchises. And so we continue to track what's selling well. Our guys obviously are really good at moving out what's not moving well. And right now we're on a very, very good trend. The one that happened three years ago -- three or four years ago was in our history pretty much a one-off in terms of how sudden and how severe it was. And so history would say that that was a one-off, but as you know black swan events are black swan events. So I would never say never.

Steve Marotta

Analyst

That's helpful. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Sam Poser with Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Sam Poser

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions and further everybody knew as well. I have a whole bunch. Number one, you talked about the impact of Brexit on the Schuh business with a potential impact and so on from sort of an operational perspective. But what about like on an ongoing sales perspective? You guys couldn't get goods into the country. But what's it going to do to demand? I mean, what's the impression if Brexit actually happens? If it happens on a hard Brexit or soft Brexit? How the consumer do you think is going to respond there period in general?

Bob Dennis

Management

Well right now Sam the economic conditions by conventional measures in the U.K. are actually pretty strong. And as Mimi had noted the consumer is spending they're not spending it as much on apparel and footwear. And so -- and consumer confidence is a little weak. In terms of what's going to happen there are so many scenarios in terms of what a Brexit could look like if there will be one at all. So it's pretty complicated. I'm not sure if there's a consensus amongst people who know more about this than we do about whether this introduces a recession to the U.K. or not which -- if it impacted employment, it obviously circles down through consumer spending. But it's just very, very hard to read exactly what the outcome would be if some form of a Brexit takes place because we don't know what that form is and so it's just really hard to predict. So what we're doing obviously is we're doing what a lot of other people are doing which is you stay -- in that level of uncertainty, you stay as flexible as you can. And to be honest, the amount of investment you put in is not going to be what it would be otherwise, if you had a clear line of sight to what the economic conditions are going to be. So we're basically holding on tight. We're hoping that the country resolves this in a way that's favorable for the economy and the U.K. population and we'll all wait and see.

Sam Poser

Analyst

And then I've got a few more. One follow-up on Schuh. You mentioned that article that came out and that you're fully committed. Can you -- what are you -- I mean what are you foreseeing with Schuh longer term, given sort of the fits and starts it's had over the last two years? Putting together through the 10-point plan, but why do you -- the full commitment to the business, what would it take to change that, and given that it's sort of been hit and miss, and then you have these macro issues as well.

Bob Dennis

Management

Yes. Well, the macro issues are the macro issues. One of the things that we think the macro issues are forcing is a consolidation of retail in the U.K. And so when we saw a flat comp achieved by Schuh with an improved gross margin in an environment where footwear was tough that indicates that some of that consolidation is happening. So footwear has been sold in a lot of the bigger boxes in the U.K. And as you well know, many of them have been challenged economically. And so if there's going to be square footage reduction in the U.K. that becomes our friend. Our biggest cost opportunity there as we highlighted in our remarks is rents. The conventions for rent setting in the U.K. are very different from the U.S. and they're -- and the best word I can come up with is a little bit quirky. But given all of that, our team believes that there is an opportunity to partner with a lot of the landlords and to say, let's look at the long term and let's try to get to some rent structures that make sense for us and for you so everybody in this industry can have a good long run. So that is what we're pursuing. That's what the article was about. It did get misinterpreted by a few people and so we felt it important to clarify.

Sam Poser

Analyst

Thank you. And then Journeys can you -- one thing we noticed when we were visiting some stores was, it looks like the assortment is -- have you gone -- I mean has the assortment narrowed or gotten more focused from a brand and item perspective? Have you gone narrower and deeper, and if so, to what degree at this time?

Bob Dennis

Management

No, Sam, I don't think it's especially changed. I think you would ask that question, I guess, maybe four or five years ago, and it had happened, and we did get narrowed down. And what's interesting is relating it to the earlier question when we got a lot more narrow that was when we got slammed with the fashion rotation. So the fact that we're -- if we are broadened out -- if you're perceiving that we're broadened out a little more by brands, I think really by franchises that's probably true and we actually like that because for the obvious reasons of our recent history.

Sam Poser

Analyst

But you're taking bigger bets within the franchises that you have. And I'm just mentioning names if it's Fanzz or Converse or Adidas whatever the brand is. It looks like the spread -- the spread is there, but it looks like the brand mix looks a little bit narrower than it did in the past. So I guess is that a fair way to put it?

Bob Dennis

Management

Sam, it's a matter of degree. And to be honest, I can't -- I'd have to get the numbers and look at them closely. We think we're very well positioned. We don't think we're taking unusual risks. I wouldn't call it -- I wouldn't put it in the category of big bets.

Sam Poser

Analyst

I wouldn't -- I didn't mean it that way. What I meant is committing to the hot stuff. So for instance, the fashion athletic shoes or the retro athletics that are doing well regardless of the brand, if brand X is doing well rather than buying two shoes for them, you're buying eight shoes from them and leaving out brand Y. So you have the mix, but it's much more focused within the winter versus a little bit of this brand, a little bit of that brand. Is that a fair statement? So the breadth of the overall assortment says, Y, but it's more focused by these key items, key brands and so on. So I was really inferring much less of a risk than much greater of a risk?

Bob Dennis

Management

Sam, it's hard to answer that. We're -- it's brand and then it's franchises and we're going -- as we always do, we're going where the customer is taking us. And so our team continues to buy. There's been no conscious radical change in the way that we're assorting.

Sam Poser

Analyst

Okay. And then, lastly, I've asked this question a zillion times, but mobile app for your Journeys Kidz, can you tell us has anything changed there? Many other retailers say they're very successful with it. You've chosen not to go there. Can you give us any update for if unchanged or whatever?

Bob Dennis

Management

Yes. We continue to think that websites perform well. There -- the average app on someone's phone is very short list. We tested apps in other businesses of ours. We continue to revisit it because things can change very quickly. But right now we're very happy with the way that we're set up at the moment.

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Yes. We had invested a lot in our mobile site and being -- having responsive design so that the screen adjusts to whatever mobile device that you have. We've streamlined the checkout features. We've really made the mobile experience a very positive experience. As Bob said, we found that apps tend to work for businesses that have lots of repeat purchases within several months the frequency of the purchases is more than the purchase of the footwear. So we think that the right place to invest for now is really within our mobile site and making it as user-friendly and as fast as we can.

Operator

Operator

And we will take our next question from Mitch Kummetz with Pivotal Research.

Mitch Kummetz

Analyst · Pivotal Research.

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Bob, let me start with you. You mentioned back-to-school momentum at Journeys and Schuh, and I guess, I'm most interested in Journeys. I know back in the good old days you would have just given us an August comp and we could call it a day. I'm guessing you don't want to back to that policy. But could you maybe speak to it a little bit directionally? I know, there's a little bit of back-to-school in the quarter a good two three weeks of back-to-school in the quarter. I'm curious, if in the quarter if you saw sort of a step-up in your Journeys comp from sort of earlier in the quarter to those last two or three weeks for back-to-school? So maybe, if you could speak to it that way.

Bob Dennis

Management

Well, we're just going to stick with -- when we saw to get the momentum from the second quarter continue into the third, but we're not going to get more specific. And you're right the good old days we used to give you a number. There's a lot of noise right now in some of the most recent retail numbers because of the hurricane threat that occurred on the East Coast. We saw some huge volatility in the last week. You can just pick out the people who were boarding up their storefronts. So it's -- we're reluctant to say anything more than the momentum from the second continued into the third. We were happy about that.

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Yes. We did write in the comp guidance for Journeys for the third quarter. And I think that we're taking a balanced approach to the outlook for the third quarter.

Mitch Kummetz

Analyst · Pivotal Research.

Okay. And then on the margins, incentive comps, I feel like at the beginning of the year, you view that as a pretty substantial opportunity for leverage. I'm just wondering if that has changed, just given how -- particularly how the Journeys business has performed, and then also just from a corporate standpoint, is that becoming less of a opportunity for leverage relative to the bonuses you're paying last year?

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Yes. So Mitch, I think, you're exactly right. And I think that what we had called out is that, for last year, bonuses were up quite a bit, just because we had had zero bonuses the year before. When we began the year, if you look at our plan, we had bonuses at a lower level than they are today but just given the good performance in the first and second quarters bonus has increased. And so we'll see where we end up for the year. There ought to be under most circumstances some pickup from bonus but not to the magnitude that we began the year thinking it would be.

Bob Dennis

Management

So, as you know, we -- our bonus is based on improvement of year-over-year performance, not budget. And so, since we're doing better than we thought we would do, it is elevating bonus for this year. If we stay on the trend that we're on, what that creates is an opportunity to possibly leverage bonus next year. So, that's where we sit today.

Mitch Kummetz

Analyst · Pivotal Research.

Got it. And then Bob, you made some comments in your prepared remarks about cash flows, strength of cash flow. And I know that the authorization -- the repurchase authorization that you're under is near exhaustion. And I'm just wondering how do you think about buyback going forward just given the cash flow perspective that you're referencing?

Bob Dennis

Management

Yeah. So, we recently exhausted the second of our two recent share buyback authorizations, and we gave you all the numbers on that. And we do expect to end the year with excess cash, which is a combination of still some carryforward cash plus what we generate in the fourth quarter. And as you know, we don't sit on cash for extended periods. So the priorities for us are what they have always been. The first priority is to fund our organic growth, and we're in the midst of our five-year planning, but I think it's fair to say that we anticipate funding the growth of next year's plan really won't be an issue for us. So then the next opportunity for us is to grow through acquisition. And the last big deal we've done was Schuh six, seven years ago. And we've looked at a lot of other deals and we've demonstrated an improvement and discipline in what we've chosen not to do, but we continue to give consideration to growth down that path with businesses that would fit the focus footwear strategy that we're employing. Failing that, we would return money to shareholders and we've generally done that via share buyback. So our Board regularly reviews all of that our balance sheet, our opportunities, and then our valuation in deciding how to deploy cash. And so, we'll continue to take a look at that, and so that's just something for down the road for the Board to consider.

Operator

Operator

And our final question will come from Laurent Vasilescu with Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Laurent Vasilescu

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks – good morning. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a strong quarter, as well congrats Mel for your onboarding. I wanted to follow-up on Mitch's question…

Mimi Vaughn

Management

Thank you.

Mel Tucker

Management

Thank you.

Laurent Vasilescu

Analyst

Oh, my pleasure. I wanted to follow-up on Mitch's question on August and obviously qualitative commentary about August, comping nicely. Can you remind us, how August last year performed relative to the third quarter results? Or asked a different way, is the third quarter comp guide embedding the slowdown post August's nice performance?

Mimi Vaughn

Management

So we really don't call out comps by month, Laurent. I think we had – we had stated last year that, we felt like last year's Back-to-School was also a good Back-to-School and we had a nice good positive comp in the third quarter last year and the third quarter is largely Back-to-School. So I mean, I think the important thing to call out is that, we are encouraged by our Back-to-School results and is -- again some pretty positive results from last year. You know August is by far the most important quarter of the subsequent quarters because of that Back-to-School period. We see some sales into September, but then it trails-off before picking back into October. So I think so far so good on the Back-to-School.

Operator

Operator

And at this time, I'd like to turn the call back to Mr. Bob Dennis for any additional or closing remarks.

Bob Dennis

Management

Well thank you everybody for joining us. Thank you for your questions. And we look forward to catching up with you at the next third quarter earnings release. Thanks all.

Operator

Operator

So, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. And you may now disconnect.