Ronald J. Copher
Analyst · D.A. Davidson
Okay. Thank you. Just let me go back for the benefit of everyone. That $153.5 million Randy covered in his opening remarks, $3.5 million below second quarter guide of $157 million to $158 million for core noninterest expense. Just want to remind everyone that, that guide included $6 million for Bank of Idaho for the 2 months after its April 30 acquisition. And so think back to the first quarter, the second quarter has the same environment in that. We remain cautious in spending given the continuing economic uncertainty, market volatility. I think you're all aware of noise that's in Washington, et cetera. So of out that $3.5 million, $500,000 or $0.5 million is attributable to Bank of Idaho coming in lower than the $6 million. They're not yet converted. That will happen later, but nonetheless, came in lower by $500,000. And of that remaining $3 million, $1.2 million is due to lower third-party outside consulting services. Another $300,000 is lower occupancy and facilities expense. In part, you noticed last year and this quarter as well, we had a number of sales of former branch facilities, so it's getting more efficient there. And then the remainder of that $1.5 million, it really was spread across many other expenses. Collectively, the -- including Bank of Idaho, these corporate department, each of the bank divisions have done a great job in controlling their expenses. And of that $1.5 million, there was no category greater than $250,000, so it really was pretty widespread. So looking ahead to the second half of '25, the previous guide I gave in April for core noninterest expense, it was $160 million to $162 million for each of the third and fourth quarters. Recall that higher guide reflects the $9 million to $10 million increase because we're going to have 3 months of the Bank of Idaho versus the $6 million was there only for the 2 months in quarter 2. So that's an increase of $3 million to $4 million on each side of that guide. And then for the third quarter, we're going to reduce the core noninterest expense guide to $159 million to $161 million. And I'll go ahead. For the fourth quarter, the guide will go to $161 million to $163 million. I do want to point out that, that increase we went -- we had $153.5 million. If you compare that back to the $152 million we had for Q1, that represents a 1% increase. And then just to add perspective, for quarter 3, the midpoint, I want to focus there, it's $160 million on the new guide. And that represents an increase of $6.5 million over the $153 million operating expenses for Q2. That $6.5 million includes incrementally $3.5 million for the Bank of Idaho acquisition. The remainder is $3 million from all the other divisions, corporate departments. So I want to add perspective in that $3 million aside from Bank of Idaho, that represents a 2% increase when you compare that to the base of $153.5 million for Q2. We are going to see some increase in that $3 million because we've had some pretty strong deferred expenses back in Q1. As a reminder, third-party consulting, we came in lower by almost $800,000. And then here in the -- as I said a moment ago, third-party consulting came in $1.2 million. If you add that together, that's $2 million. So we are expecting some additional hiring in the third quarter and some of that deferred consulting will show up the bulk of it. There will be other increases, but that's the bulk of it. And then looking to the fourth quarter, the midpoint for the Q4 guide is $162 million, which is $2 million more over the third quarter estimate. So to put that into perspective, that $2 million over the Q3 base, midpoint, $160 million, that's $1.25 million increase. My point is, is that we're going to have a step up in Q3. But overall, we continue to moderate the growth in our operating expenses. And just as a reminder, operating core means excluding M&A and any gain or losses on the sale of branches, anything else that's really unique here. So let me -- just so I don't forget, assuming we're going to close on Guaranty in, say, October 31, you would add $14 million to the guide I gave for the fourth quarter to include Guaranty. With that, let me ask for any questions.