Dave Dullum
Analyst · Ladenburg
Okay, Mickey. First question, I wish I could tell you it was as sophisticated as some arbitrage. You will know the kinds of businesses that we buy, that we own, that we manage are smaller and medium-sized companies. And being able to just run out and sell one, if you will, is not always easy. A lot of factor is involved, not the least of which will be the management teams and so on. I think the way we think of it, as I tried to really describe, is 2 things. One, we are, obviously, going to be more sensitive, I'll say, to the idea that with a portfolio of company -- and depending on how long it's been in the portfolio and given what I would consider certainly a somewhat robust marketplace around valuations and interest in acquiring good businesses like we have, that if it makes sense from the standpoint of taking a realized gain, especially for our shareholders, relative to the idea of thinking through do we hold it for a longer period of time because, obviously, we're generating current income, and we still think there's upside on the equity. We -- it's kind of that classic take a look and do I want to continue owning this business and buying it again, so to speak. So we really think about that carefully. That, frankly, I would say, is not tied directly, obviously, to the acquisition of new investments, which is our fundamental business. So I hope that helps answer the question. I mean, we really obviously don't really take a holistic view overall. But we're very -- but we're sensitive to -- I don't just want to run out and sell a business for the sake of selling it. If it makes sense, we will. And I'm going to -- we're going to be more thoughtful around that part of the process because I think capital gains are important. And I think we touched on the fact, and David Gladstone also reiterated, we have a couple that potentially could happen this year, this fiscal year. At the same time, we obviously are working hard. I think we've done a really good job in finding opportunities to acquire that fit our model, that are valuations that make some sense. It's hard work. It's not easy. But I think that's the best answer, Mickey, I can frankly give you on that one. As it relates to the valuation methodology, what I'd like to do is turn it over to perhaps our finance folks and ask, perhaps, Julia. She touched on it. She mentioned briefly what we did. If she would like to elaborate on that part of the process.