David A. R. Dullum
Analyst · Lucid Capital Markets.
Yes. Thanks, Erik. For us, again, recognizing the nature of our strategy, if you will, right, where we're buying the business and we're providing the debt and the equity I say this very carefully. We don't have any real direct competitor in that regard in the BDC space. There are others that are similar to some extent that do debt and might take our slightly bigger piece of equity, whether it be through warrants or participation. But recognizing we generally are functioning effectively as the sponsor, right? So we really are competing more with the private equity guys. And so to the extent that they are getting leverage perhaps and where they might be getting leverage at a lower rate, we are competing with them in that regard. However, I'd say for us, it's more around what valuation, the enterprise value is of the business. So if we can get into an enterprise value that works for us, then the ability we have in the structure of the equity and the debt, I don't see changing very much. And I think that's where -- how we're able really to put a floor, like Taylor said in the deal. And if we have to moderate a bit the equity component, it's kind of doing it to ourselves, if you will, the equity piece relative to the debt piece. So we're driving towards fixed charge coverage on the business because that's important to be able to continue paying the interest, obviously, and then obviously modifying the spread to get us to a fixed sort of yield that works for us on our weighted average cost of capital. So a long story short, I would say we're in good shape, plus we also obviously have usually an exit fee, which we built in, which is different than most people use for pick if you will. So I'd say we're in good shape. The real issue for us competitively is finding that enterprise value of the business that fits our profile. And if we keep doing it the way we're doing it, I think we're in good shape there. Long answer. I hope it helps to answer that question.