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Forward Air Corporation (FWRD)

Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 10, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining Forward Air Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2015 Earnings Release Conference Call. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that both the press release and this call are accessible on the Investor Relations section of Forward Air's website at www.forwardair.com. With us this morning are Chairman, President and CEO Bruce Campbell; and Senior Vice President and CFO, Rodney Bell. By now, you should have received the press release announcing fourth quarter 2015 results, which were furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K and on the wire yesterday after market close. Please be aware this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 including statements, among others, regarding the company's expected future financial performance. For this purpose, any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical facts may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. Without limiting the foregoing words such as believes, anticipate, plans, expects, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. You are hereby cautioned that these statements may be affected by the important factors among others set forth in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in the press release issued yesterday. And consequently, actual operations and results may differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. And now, I'll turn the call over to Rodney Bell, CFO of Forward Air. Please go ahead.

Rodney Bell

Management

Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you, everyone, for joining us. We'll jump right in with revenues for the fourth quarter. On one additional business day, consolidated revenues were $42.3 million or 19.8% compared to Q4 a year ago, mostly as a result of our March 9 acquisition account Towne Air Freight Forward Air Inc. without regards to CST. Revenues increased $40.1 million or 28.3%. Airport-to-airport revenues inclusive of complete increased 21.2% this resulted from average weekly tonnage growth of 21.7% offset by a 2% year-over-year decline in total yield. Quarterly progression of Q4 tonnage growth was 23%, 21%, and 26% respectively for October through December. The yield decline consisted of a 0.2 decline in our Linehaul yield, the 3.4% negative impact of lower fuel surcharges and a 1.6% benefit from Forward Air Complete which grew 40% as compared to Q4 a year ago. Logistics which is primarily TLX full truckload revenues grew an impressive 50.7%. CST intermodal and related revenues were up $2.4 million and 11.4%. Quarter-over-quarter deceleration of CST revenues was due to the grandfathering in 2014 acquisitions. Last week, we did close a small tuck-in deal and our top line of potential acquisitions for CST is full. TQI revenues were $3 million and 24.8% less in Q4 a year ago. We expect Q1 will be another challenging quarter for the TQI team. However, we do expect the new initiatives will begin to gain attraction and we should see progress rather as the year proceeds. And finally, solutions revenues were $2.7 million and 6.7% higher than Q4 a year ago. Innovating from both Q1 new business winds as well as to generate increase, we expect solutions revenue growth to reach double digits for Q1 as well as 2016. Jumping to Q4 expenses, purchased transportation was up $15.2…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will begin with the line of Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Scott Group

Analyst

Hey. Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Good morning.

Scott Group

Analyst

So, I'm wondering if you can help, that is there any way to think about or organic tonnage ex-town and maybe kind of walk us through the monthly progression there and what you're seeing in January and, so far, in February?

Rodney Bell

Management

Scott, that's really tough. I was initially tough when we bought Towne because it's really the same customer base, the same lanes, the same cities to a large degree. And Scott and we’re even fuzzier over time. With a lot of assumptions right now, we think the base organic growth without regard to the change in our dim factor is low-single digits, call it 2% to 3%. And…

Scott Group

Analyst

And are you seeing any directional changes? Is that slowing, is it accelerating?

Rodney Bell

Management

It's pretty much the same coming out the quarter into the New Year. There's been a little bit of noise from weather, but by-and-large in January and into February tonnage in the low 20s.

Scott Group

Analyst

Okay. The dimensional pricing change. Is this something you guys have done before? And is there any way to think about what percent of the business it impacts and what ultimate impact you guys are hoping for?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Well, it has never been change in our history, Scott. So, we always had a 250 dim-factor. If you look at international airlines, they're at 166, now there's at 190. It was never a huge concern to us until the shipment traits and characteristics really began to change over the last let's say two years where normal - what we would call normal freight three years ago would be in the 750 pounds per shipment and today it struck all the way down to below 600's the cause of that is moving very low density freight, much more than we have in the past. And that's driven by probably technology and other issues like that. So the freight is different today than it was in years past. And so, we had to address that, as you know we moved it from 250 to 200. It will have an impact from standpoint from those customers who handle that type of freight. It will not impact across the board. So, to give you an exact number, we don't know that number yet. We need another a month or two of actually having the real implemented and then we'll be able to tell you exactly what happen.

Scott Group

Analyst

Maybe is there or anything that - what's the perspective rate increase from this or kind of it's that all hits kind of what the margin benefit is?

Rodney Bell

Management

Sure, Scott. The intent was just to essentially take the place of our normal general rate increase and as you recall, that's typically targeting somewhere between 3% and 3.5% across that airport-to-airport line item.

Scott Group

Analyst

And then, just last question. So, If I look, the core Forward Air business had a roughly 87% operating ratio last year. You guys used to do low 80%s. I think you've had high 70%s operating ratios. Is that still the goal and what does it take to get there? And maybe what kind of margin improvement do you think you can see at Forward Air this year?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Yeah. Our goal is to get into the 70s this year because that's not going to happen. And one time, we did get into the 70s was an absolutely perfect storm. So, for us to - but we do have opportunities to improve and one of the critical steps was the one we took last week on the dim factor. We also have opportunities within our labor, where we still have tried to get the old Towne influence out and where we are much more efficient in that area than we have been. We have seen great efficiencies already in our load averages, which is critical to the airport-to-airport business. And we would be happy to work it down to an 86, 85 OR and then start working it to get it even better. But today, our goal is to get it to the 86, 85 area.

Scott Group

Analyst

And that's a near term goal for 2016 85 to 86 OR?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

As best – yeah, I mean, I'm not sitting here telling you we're going to do that. I am telling you we are striving to do that.

Scott Group

Analyst

Got you. Okay. All right. Thank you, guys.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

A: Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Next, we'll go to the line Jack Atkins with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thanks for the time.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Sure.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

So, kind of going back to the GRI comment for a moment. If I heard you correctly, it sounds like this dim weight change is in place of a standard GRI. Can you maybe talk about why you guys decided not to go forward with a GRI this year and when was the dim weight changes set?

Rodney Bell

Management

Well...

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Sorry. Go ahead.

Rodney Bell

Management

Well, Jack, as you'll recall, back this fall, we - it was a rivaled approach to putting in place a couple of surcharges, West Coast driven and Florid driven, so, that's relatively new. And we've got to be cognizant of just our customer having to - which is to Forward to primarily having to be able to pass along the rate increases we put in place to their customers. So, we really didn't feel like we can do both.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Let me add to that, Jack. This was the most sensible pricing action we've ever taken primarily because the business mix has changed. Had the business mix stayed the same, we wouldn't be talking about this. But as we recognized and kept trying to say, gee, that's not - that's really not happening, well, in fact it was happening. And so, as a core tenet to our ongoing business, we have to fix that part of it. And I think our teams did a great job of doing that.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

Okay. And then when we think about fuel surcharges, we've seen some of the LTLs adjust their fuel surcharge tables in 2015. Is that something that you guys have looked to doing? It is decided not to do or is that something that can be in the card?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Exactly. That could be in the cards. We're certainly not going to do it right on top of what we just did. We have discussed fuel surcharges just behind the lead. So, I think at some point, if oil does not recover in anyway, say, perform, we'll probably take an action there.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

And then, Rodney, I guess taking back to 2015, what was the total impact year-over-year of EPS from the lower fuel surcharges? And what would you expect that full-year impact to be in 2016?

Rodney Bell

Management

Jack, it was - we're broadcasting remotely from Florida, so I don't have my notes. But from memory, it was about $0.12, $0.14 impact in 2015, I believe. And we're looking somewhere between $0.10 and $0.12 again in 2016 with fuel at its current prices.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

Okay. And then well, what are you assuming in the first quarter guidance, Rodney, in terms of Tonnage growth year-over-year? And then in terms of yield?

Rodney Bell

Management

Jack, as far as tonnage growth, keeping in mind that we grandfather town on March 9th. We're looking at between 12% and 14% without regard to the change in dim-factor or what would drive tonnage up, about the way that works. And, essentially, we got back to as far as our core line, how yield pretty much flat with the prior year in Q4 2015. We - sequentially, we think that'll be a little bit better. But not a lot better.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

And so the dim-weight, the dim-weight changes won't back tonnage not yield.

Rodney Bell

Management

The way that works, it's an increase in buildable tonnage. It's not an increase in yield.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

Okay. And then last question, I'll turn it over is on TQI. It seems like where every quarter talking about some issues there. I guess you all refer to some initiatives that you're putting in place. But what do you guys do to get profitability back on track in TQI? And what sort of the timeline to make that happen?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

We - the first thing we did was have a complete organizational change. We put some, as I like to call it, some horses in there. The person has running it is an industry veteran, topnotch, and it's going to deliver some really good results for us. And then we further supported that down the organizational structure. And I can tell you we're hard on TQI right now, our efforts because the great thing about TQI is they have wonderful opportunities that we need to bring to the table. So we're looking at the next three months to six months, getting it back to where it was and then from that point on really taking off with it. A lot of work to do but we have the right players in there to do the work.

Jack Atkins

Analyst

Thank you again for the time.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

A: You're welcome, Jack.

Operator

Operator

Next from the line of Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Todd Fowler

Analyst

Great, thanks. Good morning. Bruce, can you just give us an update with where you are at with respect to Towne? At this point are the integration costs going to be behind us? And then, is there any work to still do with the legacy pricing on the Towne business?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

We're basically done. So we're happy about that. Don't have to deal with it going forward. There's a few, I don't know the exact number but it's not meaningful, of ongoing contractual rates, if you will. But basically, we're done.

Todd Fowler

Analyst

So at this point, when we think about both volume and yield trend, it should just be reflective of obviously adjusting for the timing of when the acquisition came in, but we shouldn't see any big ships of freight moving in or out because of pricing actions of Towne.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

That's correct and the big thing at Towne - that Towne freight does and has done is it's a lower length of haul so we're into more and more regional traffic…

Todd Fowler

Analyst

Okay.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

… which is good. Nothing wrong with it, but that’ll be the big change we see.

Todd Fowler

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then it sounds like that the outside capacity costs in the quarter were back down to where they've been historically. Is there any more opportunity when you think about the purchased transportation within the network or is that where you needed to be at this point? And do you - is there anything you have to do with the owner operator pay going into 2016?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

We - if -- to improve our linehaul. Our ability to buy on the outside market is like everybody else's. You can get capacity cheaper than you could a year ago. We are anticipating that change. But for the time being, we work every single day on lowering that cost.

Todd Fowler

Analyst

Okay. And then just the last one I wanted to ask about. So, with the change in the shipment size and the other LTLs have talked about this to an extent, but it sounds like in your network that that's more of a reflection of a shift in the freight that you're handling versus being economically driven and maybe there's a combination of both. But maybe it would be helpful if you can talk a little bit, Bruce, about specifically what you're seeing is that mostly e-commerce-type customers or I think you'd made a comment about technology source the way that your customers are packaging the shipments. Maybe just a little bit of high-level context as to what you're seeing with the shipment size, I think, would be helpful.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Yeah. I would tell you to look at your own office, and everything in that office is…

Todd Fowler

Analyst

It's a mess, if that helps.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Well, yeah, it does. It helps me -- we're not going to comeback with TV's out of big boxes that weigh 1,000 pounds, those days are over. So, we really had to make a change that will be a forever change.

Todd Fowler

Analyst

Okay. So, with the shrinking of the freight versus a shift in the customer base or anything like that?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Correct.

Todd Fowler

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Thanks so much for the time this morning.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next will go to line of Jason Seidl at Cown & Co. Please go ahead.

Jason Seidl

Analyst

Thank you very much, Operator. Getting back to talking about the LTL's what we've seen from the LTL's obviously is going a little bit of weakness in some of their tonnage in the fourth quarter. Did you guys see them get a little bit more competitive and you remain and sometimes they kind of drift over in the competition maybe?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

No. I think what we see the most chase in this the disappearance of large shipments because with capacity available, our customer will take a 7,000 pound shipment and put it on the truck load carrier. We really don't see a lot of bleed off to LTLs, not to say there is in any but it's just not significant.

Jason Seidl

Analyst

Okay, that color helps. Also, when you're looking at some of your end-markets -- I've been reading a lot of the stuff that our retail team has been putting out there and a lot of their companies are telling them sort of about a glut in inventories that they have, especially on the apparel side. What are you hearing from your customers and what should we expect going forward?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

We obviously read the same report and we simply did not see it. And the quarter started for solutions, I'm referring to Solutions and their customer base….

Jason Seidl

Analyst

What?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Started off pretty well. We were really concerned that the quarter would start off with basically zero freight but it started off pretty well. So, were pleased with that although we read again the same things you talk about and keeping a very watchful eye on it.

Jason Seidl

Analyst

In terms of the business for TQI for the first quarter?

Rodney Bell

Management

TQI is going to struggle again, Jason. Its revenues we're starting to see sales went but it's coming on slow. We're essentially modeling TQI to be a breakeven contributor for an EPS perspective.

Jason Seidl

Analyst

Now, that's a good call. Again, gentlemen, thank you for your time as always.

Rodney Bell

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next will be from the line of David Campbell with Thompson Davis. Please go ahead.

David Campbell

Analyst

Yes. Bruce in running about your solutions division. It's obviously developed in fourth quarter. Do you think it's going to lose money again like it has been in the first six months of the year and doing profitable the rest of the year?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Let me tell you that that division now reports for me. And we are working as hard as a human being can work to make sure that we're making every effort to get through to Q1 and Q2 profitably. We will take a breakeven in Q1, which we think we're on the road to. And then in Q2 up back into a small profit not a huge profit, and then be ready for the balance of the year.

David Campbell

Analyst

And most of that is from new contracts?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Part of it is, and part of it is efficiencies.

David Campbell

Analyst

Right. Right. Right. And what would you say - last questions about the synergies of that business and your core airport-to-airport businesses, has there been any synergy benefit?

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

The only synergy we get out of the solutions business as it relates to our other businesses is we do in a few locations share buildings but that’s it. Different customers.

David Campbell

Analyst

Right.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Different services.

David Campbell

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Bruce Campbell

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

All right. And our last question is from the line of Ben Hartford with Baird. Please go ahead.

Zax Rosenberg

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. It's actually Zax Rosenberg on for Ben. Just hoping to follow up on the core linehaul tinge comments. Just wondering what are reasonable rates, so that can be after Towne's contributions or lapped you're looking to second quarter through fourth quarter this year. Are we looking at positive or negative growth, do you think?

Rodney Bell

Management

Zax, we're looking at to be positive for a couple of reasons. We think - again, the core organic for legacy with that regard for Towne is probably bumping around in a low-single digits. But we think the impact of the change in our Dim-Factor, which is going to increase tonnage. That will bring it up into the solid, mid-single digits for the post-Towne balance of the year.

Zax Rosenberg

Analyst

And related to that, what benefit have you guys seen from the BX solutions closure in the fourth quarter, if any?

Rodney Bell

Management

No, we saw a bit. The weeks following that, it wasn't big because quite frankly based on our intelligence, was they didn't have a whole lot of business to begin with. But we saw volumes go up a point, point-and-a-half.

Zax Rosenberg

Analyst

Okay. And if I can sneak just one last one in here. Total region benefit, growth of 30% and you broke out a few of the items. So, just wondering to what degree was a great of an internal expectations given efforts to improve service due to integration of Towne? And can we expect that to be flat year-over-year in 2016 as realization of synergies and savings are now they're with Towne integration related?

Rodney Bell

Management

Most of that integration, those efficiencies were accomplished in the second half. So, you're going to see some improvement in - well, the first half really of the year. And then you mentioned, we called it out as some what we considered not necessarily onetime cost, but some very unusual cost that were in that line item, so those shouldn't mitigate and you should see some improvement from a percentage of revenue across that salaries and wages line item.

Zax Rosenberg

Analyst

Great. Well. Thank you very much for taking the time.

Rodney Bell

Management

Yes, sir.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions. Thank you for joining us today for Forward Air Corporation's fourth quarter 2015 earnings conference call. And please remember the webcast will be available on the IR section of Forward Air's website at www.forwardair.com shortly after this call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect