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Fuel Tech, Inc. (FTEK)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 12, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Fuel Tech, Inc. Second Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Devin Sullivan, Senior Vice President of The Equity Group. Thank you. You may begin.

Devin Sullivan

Analyst

Thank you, Donna. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Fuel Tech's second quarter 2020 financial results conference call. Yesterday after the close, we issued a copy of the release, which is available at the company's website, www.ftek.com. Our speakers for today will be Vince Arnone, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ellen Albrecht, the Company's Principal Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions from our analysts and investors. Before turning things over to Vince, I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed on this call, except for historical information are forward-looking statements as defined in Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and reflect Fuel Tech's current expectations regarding future growth, results of operations, cash flows, performance and business prospects, and opportunities, as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to our company's management. Fuel Tech has tried to identify forward-looking statements by using words such as anticipate, believe, plan, expect, estimate, intend, will and similar expressions, but these words are not the exclusive means of identifying forward-looking statements. These statements are based on information currently available to Fuel Tech and are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors including, but not limited to those discussed in Fuel Tech's annual report on Form 10-K in Item 1A under the caption Risk Factors and subsequent filings under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, which could cause Fuel Tech's actual growth, results of operations, financial condition, cash flows performance and business prospects and opportunities to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these statements. Fuel Tech undertakes no obligation to update such factors or to publicly announce the results of any forward-looking statements contained herein to reflect future events, developments or changed circumstances or for any other reason. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties including those detailed in the company's filings with the SEC. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Vince Arnone. Vince, please go ahead.

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Thank you, Devin. Good morning, and I want to thank everyone for joining us on the call today. I hope that you and your families are safe and in good health. I'll begin today with an overview of how the COVID-19 pandemic is impacting Fuel Tech and how we are addressing these challenges. We believe that the COVID-19 pandemic affected our air pollution control, and FUEL CHEM operations in the second quarter, although the impact is difficult to quantify. Many of the project specific delays that we had been experiencing in closing new APC business Awards were extended as a result of COVID-19. Our FUEL CHEM segment was impacted by slower activity due to COVID-19 in particular, in the month of April in May. A decline in economic activity drove reduced electricity demand, which lead to a reduction in electricity generation and dispatch and particular for coal-fired power generation units. Fortunately, the month of June showed improvement, and thus far in the third quarter, we have returned to normalized run rates for use of our FUEL CHEM programs. It is important to note that Fuel Tech qualified as an essential business under the state of Illinois executive order and our operations have been active not only in the U.S. but on a global basis as well. We developed and deployed a series of initiatives designed to minimize disruptions to our normal business activities and preserve our ability to execute on our objectives. We are focused on supporting our current and potential future customer requirements for our APC and FUEL CHEM business segments during this critical period of time and are deploying recommended safety protocols across our enterprise to ensure that our employees, customers and suppliers remain safe. For APC business, both for potential new awards and for execution on existing…

Ellen Albrecht

Analyst

Thank you, Vince and good morning everyone. Consolidated revenues declined to $4.4 million in the second quarter from $8.9 million in the second quarter of 2019 reflecting significantly lower revenues for both APC and FUEL CHEM segments. APC revenues for the second quarter of 2020 were $1.9 million as compared to $4.8 million in the second quarter of 2019. Lower APC revenues were the result of a decline in backlog entering the year slower than expected new APC contract awards, and the timing of completion of current project. Backlog at the end of the quarter was $8.3 million comprised of $7.2 million in domestic projects, and $1.1 million from our foreign entities. Projects included in backlog represent a variety of Fuel Tech technology offerings across multiple geographies. As Vince mentioned, we did reports $2.2 million of new awards early in the third quarter comprised of projects from both technology segments. FUEL CHEM revenues for the quarter were $2.5 million as compared to $4.1 million during the second quarter of 2019. The impact of COVID-19 effective revenues in our FUEL CHEM's segment which, experienced reduced power demand and unscheduled outages beyond what we would consider to be normal for the period. We have as Vince mentioned started to, see a return to more normalized levels as we've entered the third quarter. Consolidated gross margin for the second quarter 2020 was 13.7% of revenues compared to 43.6% of revenues in last year’s second quarter. This decline was driven to a large degree by $1.1 million charge in the APC segment to remedy and equipment non-conformance issue related to a previously disclosed equipment warranty liability with the U.S. customer. Excluding the charge consolidated gross margin for the second quarter was 40%. We have submitted a reimbursement request to our insurer for the amounts…

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Ellen, thank you very much and operator, let's take this opportunity to open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Amit Dayal of H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Amit Dayal

Analyst

Just on the backlog Vince if could give us any color on what the mix is over here. And I know you are still anticipating around - or pursuing $10 million to $15 million in opportunities and do you expect any of that to sort of add to the backlog before the end of the year?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

I would expect it to add to backlog Amit, but I would not expect that a great deal of it would actually pull through in the profit and loss statements in 2020, before the end of the year.

Amit Dayal

Analyst

Understood, and the mix Vince what does it comprise of the backlog right now?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

From a geographic perspective Amit?

Amit Dayal

Analyst

Product perspective just you know…

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Oh okay, product perspective it's predominantly SCR and ULTRA technologies in our backlog right now.

Amit Dayal

Analyst

Okay, got it understood, understood

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Yes.

Amit Dayal

Analyst

So with this agreement on the water technology side, with Kadance with the DGI how does that sort of change some of your efforts - any color on if, there is any opportunity to accelerate these trials and piloted customers, et cetera?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Yes, I think that again, this is a new agreement that we've signed, Kadance actually acquired the assets of NanO2 LLC. The agreement that we have in place now with Kadance, I would call it a little bit more favorable to Fuel Tech, in that we now have an expanded opportunity to enter some non-exclusive market areas that we did not have the opportunity to enter previously. Secondarily, we have the ability to manufacture all of our DGI delivery systems on our own without having to purchase those systems from the licensor. Under our prior agreements, we did have the requirement to do that, but not any longer and given the fact that our long-term history is in fabricating and designing skin-based delivery systems, I think that's an advantage to us, generally speaking. And then lastly, Kadance is well - what we respected in the municipal wastewater treatment area. Their focus had been delivering biological reagents for wastewater treatment solutions and they became interested in the DGI technology as an enhancement to the biological reagents that they were providing. So we believe that there's an opportunity to better partner with Kadance generally speaking, than we would have had previously with NanO2 LLC as it relates to enhance development prospectively. And I would hope that would translate to an expedited timeframe for us to become commercial in marketplaces.

Amit Dayal

Analyst

Just maybe last one, the second quarter probably, we see some low utilization at coal power electricity facilities. Do you feel that has picked up or are we still in some whatever recovery mode over there?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Yes, I still think there's recovery yet to go. Fortunately, we have seen some dispatch of coal-fired units which has been beneficial to us. As we've ended Q2 as we’ve begun Q3 as I mentioned in my commentary relative to the FUEL CHEM system and related revenue performance. So, I am pleased to see that. We have had some helpful weather in many parts of the country as well with extraordinarily warm temperatures associated with our summer season that's always the benefit to overall dispatch. And one of the factors that we saw earlier in the year and COVID-19 was impacting those factors was the fact that because of a lack of demand, we saw some of the larger units, not just taking their regular outages, or taking extended outages to do additional maintenance and repair, because they had the opportunity to do so, because there wasn't the need to get those units back up and running to meet anticipated demand. So hopefully, that is largely behind us. And we'll be able to continue to stay on a path of a more normalized run rate, if you will for FUEL CHEM. But I'm optimistic about what I'm seeing thus far in Q3, and hopefully that will keep in place for the remainder of this year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is coming from Jim McIlree of Bradley Woods. Please go ahead.

Jim McIlree

Analyst

I think in your commentary, you talked about FUEL CHEM returning to normal levels. Is that the same for pricing and margins or is there been a change in pricing that would suggest margins are changed?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Yes, pricing has largely stayed the same. And if when you look at our FUEL CHEM performance call it first half of this year over prior years, we do have a little bit of a fixed operating components for the FUEL CHEM business and as a result, because of the reduction in revenues we've had in the first half of this year, our margin profile is actually a little bit lower than we would normally expect it, because historically we've looked at approximate 50% gross margins for FUEL CHEM. With the increased revenue generation or I should say a return to more normalized levels, we'll see that return to a call it a more normalized 50% gross margin for FUEL CHEM business.

Jim McIlree

Analyst

Great, thanks for that. And then secondly, I was hoping you could help me understand the timeline on DGI. I do understand - I do recognize that the testing has been delayed, but when we get past that when you start the testing again what's the timeline between testing how long does it take and then as your evaluation. And then there's a contract negotiation if you could just in broad brushes tell me what the timeline on that would be once you start testing?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Well I guess what I'll use as a basis for discussion Jim is the demonstration that we had planned on and started towards the end of Q1 beginning of Q2 at our pulp and paper facility. It was largely an 8 to 10-week demonstration period or thereabouts. Whereby obviously we start with assessing baseline conditions of the water that we're looking to treat and doing all the necessary measurement and testing of that water as is, and then we would start our demonstration program and monitor that over an 8 to 10- week timeframe. Coming out of that 8 to 10-week timeframe, obviously we sit and assess with customer the results of that demonstration. And then hopefully we would look to be able to sit with that customer and move forward towards a commercial agreement of some sort whether it be a system sale, whether it be a system rental, whichever business model would work out best for that particular customer. So that's what a demonstration timeframe would look like with some slight modifications that depending on the specific customer and the application that we would look to be addressing.

Jim McIlree

Analyst

And so not to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like, the demo was 8 to 10 weeks, and maybe the evaluation afterwards would be a similar amount of time. And then, who knows how long it takes to negotiate contracts and all of that. But is that a fair enough way to look at it so let's call it 20 to 30 weeks before you actually have a signed contract?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

I wouldn’t say that's fair, Jim on a generalized basis yes. I would hope in some cases, we'd be able to work a little bit more expediently. But a lot is going to depend on the nature of the customer that we're dealing with and how familiar they are with and aeration or advanced aeration type of process, relative to what it takes to completely convinced them that the DGI system is something that's beneficial for them. So generally, I think the timeframe is good.

Jim McIlree

Analyst

And last the PPP loan, a number of other companies have been speaking to have been suggesting that the loan is going to be forgivable for them. Is that the case for you as well?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

We definitely believe that to be the case. The timing of that forgiveness is indeed uncertain as we sit here today. The great majority of the banks that were authorized by the SBA are actually setting up web portals for having their companies that did receive loans, submit their application for forgiveness information electronically, as opposed to a lot of the paper processing that occurred with the first wave of application. So we're in waiting mode, waiting for that portal to be set up for our bank. And then we're told that that our bank has a 30 to 60-day period of time to review our in information, but they will also then submit the information to SBA because at the end of the day SBA has to approve of the forgiveness and then they will get back to our bank. So the timeframe for official forgiveness, as we sit here today is uncertain. But to answer your first question, yes, we expect the loan to be forgiven.

Jim McIlree

Analyst

That's great, thanks. And if I - I think I lied I'd like to ask one more. You talked about COVID having impact on your business, and it was the impact you refer to was a lowering of electricity usage. Is there another impact that you either did or didn't refer to is that you can't get people in the field to either service or install? Are you having issues with that and if that's the case, how are you going about mitigating that?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

I didn't refer to that specifically on the APC side. I did refer to some call it timing of award delays related to COVID-19. But now that you bring up the other point, yes. We have had to deal with some challenges relative to having our personnel out in the field to either do testing or commissioning of systems that are being installed or a variety of other reasons. So we've deployed remote commissioning tactics to help our direct customer base to work through diagnostics and commissioning activities at site. In many cases, depending on the knowledge base of the customers that you're dealing with or the direct contact that we're dealing with at our plant site. It can be challenging. Working remotely has great benefits, but in many instances, you need to be there, hands on. And so working with our systems in many cases, it's much more efficient when our technicians are able to get to sites. So, largely in this country, we've been able to deploy our people to customer sites, but we have had issues outside of this country trying to get our technicians to state specifically to address commissioning related items. And we're working through that on a daily basis.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is coming from Pete Enderlin of MAZ Partners. Please go ahead.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

On the PPP loan, I guess it's a two-year maturity as it set up initially, is that correct?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Correct.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

And I don't remember the balance, but it looked like a lot of it was on the current liabilities and the rest was long-term liabilities. Is that right?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Of the $1.6 million it’s approximately 700,000 current 900,000 long-term.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Right.

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Yes, correct to two-year maturity program. First payment actually starts in month seven.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay, so that's why you have that the 700,000 as a current liability.

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

That is correct.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay. And in order for it to be forgiven, you have to keep paying people I guess, is that correct?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

You have to keep paying people during certain coverage periods as defined by policy, the PPP program regulations or stipulations if you will. And companies have the option to choose between an eight-week coverage period or a 24-week coverage period. As I had mentioned to the prior caller Jim, we do expect the loan to be forgiven.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Right, so did you pick eight weeks or 24 weeks?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

We have not had to specify that as of today and so we have not.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay. But I guess what I'm getting at in way is that, you kept paying people so you take a hit on your operating line in exchange for at some point in the future, presuming this is forgiven and effectively non-recurring gain, which would be treated as such I guess. So maybe the way to look at this in retrospect is going to be over the whole period of the loan because you're incurring expenses by paying people and then you get the money back later on when it's forgiven. Is that the right way to look at that?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Assuming that the loan is indeed forgiven Pete yes, we will take a call it a benefit due to income, or the value of that loan at that point in time when that loan is formally forgiven.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Right okay, thanks. And then remind us - I know it's a fairly old issue, but what was the warranty issue in the APC segment that caused this payment and the insurance issue and all that? What actually was the warranty problem?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Right, we actually had this is a project that commenced in 2015, and then went through execution over the subsequent four-year timeframe. The project had some delays, but effectively just at a high level Pete. We actually designed our system in a manner that was different than the specification. And I'll leave it as simple as that, our design was call it structurally sound and would have met all performance guarantee requirements. But we deviated from a, one piece of the design specification. And as a result, we needed to make some changes to some of the steel structures that we provided.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay. So basically you had to redo part of it and that cost you 1 million plus I think forgotten?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

That is correct.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay then, lastly you have this new agreement for DGI with Kadance, and the terms change somewhat related to exclusivity. What areas are exclusive now and how has that changed and what areas do you have non-exclusive rights?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Everything that we had that was exclusive previously Pete, is still exclusive today. So anything related to electric utilities and independence power producers that ours, anything related to forest products and biomass, oil and gas, cement, carbon black, glass, steel and metal products. That's all those are all Fuel Tech markets exclusively. What was added was the ability to - for us to address on a non-exclusive basis aquaculture any freshwater and seawater applications in anything related to livestock agriculture. So we added some additional market opportunities to the overall list, which ultimately could provide benefit.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay, and are there geographical limitations in any of that?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

There are for the agreement, none of that changed from the original agreement. So Pete, it's largely a domestic focused agreement, but with the opportunity to look to expand that to other geographies if we approach the licensor.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

In other words, you would have to reach an agreement with them on any other geographical areas?

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

It is correct, yes.

Pete Enderlin

Analyst

Okay. Well, thanks a lot for all the clarification and good luck with dealing with all these challenges on multiple fronts from operating rates to new contract rates to development programs and all of that and good luck. Thank you very much.

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Thank you, Pete. Appreciate your support. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Arnone for closing comments.

Vincent Arnone

Analyst

Thank you, operator. I'd like to thank everyone for the continued interest in Fuel Tech. As our last caller noted Fuel Tech like many companies today is working through several challenges. We still think we're well positioned to be able to pull ourselves out of this challenging environment today and return value to our shareholder base. That is our company's objective. So thanks again folks and have a good day today.

Operator

Operator

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