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Federal Signal Corporation (FSS)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, May 2, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Ian Hudson, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Ian Hudson

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to Federal Signal's first quarter 2023 conference call. I'm Ian Hudson, the Company's Chief Financial Officer. Also with me on the call today is Jennifer Sherman, our President and Chief Executive Officer. We will refer to some presentation slides today as well as to the earnings release, which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our website, federalsignal.com, clicking on the Investor Call icon and signing into the webcast. We have also posted the slide presentation and the earnings release under the Investor tab on our website. Before we being, I'd like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor language found in today's news release and in Federal Signal's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with US generally accepted accounting principles. In our earnings release and filings, we reconcile these non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10-Q later today. I am going to begin today by providing some detail on our first quarter results before turning the call over to Jennifer to provide her perspective on our performance, market conditions and out outlook for the remainder of the year. After our prepared comments, Jennifer and I will address your questions. Our consolidated first quarter financial results are provided in today's earnings release. In summary, we delivered strong financial results for the quarter with double-digit year-over-year net sales and earnings growth, gross margin expansion, a 130 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin and new records in orders and backlog. Consolidated net sales for the quarter were $386 million, up $55 million…

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst

Thank you, Ian. Over the last several years, we have put several building blocks in place to fuel the long-term growth of the company. This has included making significant investments in plant expansions, new product development and strategic acquisitions that have expanded our product offerings in geographic footprint. With those pillars in place, we announced on our year-end earnings call that we are expecting 2023 to be another record year for Federal Signal. We are off to a strong start with our Q1 net sales EPS at the highest level in the company's history for the first quarter of the year. Within our Environmental Solutions Group, an improving supply chain supported higher production levels with increased sales volumes, contributions from recent acquisitions, robust aftermarket demand and strong price realization, we were able to deliver a 16% year-over-year net sales increase and 180 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin. During Q1, production at two of our largest manufacturing facilities within ESG improved by 17% compared to the fourth quarter of 2022. This represents the second consecutive quarter of double digit production growth and the teams achieved their highest average daily build rates since Q1 of 2020. This strong execution contributed to a 27% year-over-year increase in street sweeper sales and double digit increases in sales of both sewer cleaners and safe digging trucks. Our aftermarket team also had another strong quarter with overall aftermarket revenues in Q1 this year, up 22% over last year with particularly strong parts sales. To meet growing demand our FS Depot parts business has successfully increased its workforce and during the first quarter had a significant focus on reducing backlog and improving lead times in order to deliver essential parts to our dealers and minimize equipment downtime for our end customers. In addition to strong…

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions] Our first question comes from Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Maybe, start with backlog and just maybe your thoughts in terms of the pricing of your backlog today versus six months or 12 months ago, when you factor in things like year date, seal increase, there's obviously freight costs are changing, some improving. Just, kind of your thoughts on how that backlash sits today from a pricing perspective.

Ian Hudson

Analyst

Yeah, I think Chris, obviously, last year we took a series of pricing actions in response to the inflationary environment that we saw at that time. So we feel pretty good about the pricing of the backlog. I think if you look at the margin improvement price was a factor in in driving some of that improvement. We also had increased sales volumes and some nice operating leverage both of our within both our groups, but price was a factor. But I think overall where we sit today, Chris, I think we feel comfortable with the pricing of the backlog.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it. Record orders, record backlog, what's your sense of kind of customer perception regarding lead times? Do they feel, less need at this point in time to pre-order than they might have this time last year?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst

Yeah, we looked carefully at the order trends across the business and one of the things that was notable was that we saw or strong orders on both the industrial and municipal side. We still continue to have challenges on the dump body side of the business because of the limited chassis availability, particularly for Class 5 chassis' and that impact a couple of our businesses. But overall, we're still expecting strong orders in Q2, although sequential and year-over-year comparisons may be stored kind of given the size of the backlog.

Ian Hudson

Analyst

And I think Chris, we are actively trying to work down some of those lead times. That's what one of the things we cited on our prepared comments was just the increased production levels that we've seen at both of our Vector and Elgin facilities, and that's the second quarter in succession where we've seen meaningful improvement in production levels and that's encouraging that we've seen some improvement on the supply chain there, but I think overall we are trying to work down some of those lead times.

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst

Yeah. Just add there we're very focused on trucks per day and kind of building on what Ian had said. We saw 17% sequential improvement and we were really encouraged at our largest facility. If you just look at that particular facility, we saw 22% sequential improvement. So, very focused on reducing the lead times, but encouraged by the order trends we're seeing.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. I'll leave it there. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Shlisky with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my question. Actually, I actually one o'clock on your last answer, or maybe it was two questions ago about the chassis comment for dump bodies, could you had mentioned, Ian, your prepared comments that you had a chassis headwind in the quarter and it sounded like it was a headwind that implied a positive mix for dump bodies. In other words, having more chassis is positive for the dump body business I would imagine. So can you square those two up? Did you have better chassis supply in this quarter or worse?

Ian Hudson

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

So two separate -- when we talk about chassis might two separate kind of groups I would say is that we never provide the chassis for the dump truck business. The customer always provides the chassis. In the prepared comments, what we were talking about was the other side of the business where historically we've had about a 50-50 split where, 50% of the time we provide the chassis, 50% of the time the customer provides the chassis. In the last couple of -- last year or two, we've actually increased the amount of chassis that we supply because we've had pretty decent access to chassis and so we've been able to provide those to our customers. We've made some strategic investments in procuring chassis on behalf of our customers, but what that means from a margin standpoint is we don't make much of margin on those chassis. It's more of a pass through. So that has, as we increase the chassis revenue that can be a drag on gross margin and EBITDA and that was what we cited on a prepared comments that year-over-year, the increase in the chassis revenue where we are supplying more of the chassis that caused a headwind year over year, about 40 basis points on EBITDA margin. So it's not necessarily linked to the dumb body business.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. So it's just mix that's really.

Ian Hudson

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Correct.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

All of it.

Ian Hudson

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Mix with more chassis revenue for more chassis that we provide.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Perfect. Thank you.

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

A different way, the business, our chassis revenue was up $12 million year-over-year and that had as Ian pointed out a drag.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Got it. My next question, I can ask this two different ways. I'll just pick one. The SSG margins were very strong. That's really solid. And it's already towards the high another range you just put out few months ago. So are you already thinking about maybe even an additional range higher from here? Even what you learned? Or I guess what could -- what could go wrong from here in that segment and not go towards the high end of the range that you just put out in the foreseeable future?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Look, we are really encouraged by SSG's performance and as we've talked about on previous calls, they were a couple quarters ahead. We've seen in kind of supply chain improvement. I spent some time on the call talking about some of the insourcing that we've done, which has made a difference out there. And they also had a large fleet order which helped them during the quarter and we're confident that they'll continue to operate within that range and can fluctuate quarter to quarter, but we're really encouraged by what we saw in Q1.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. Fair enough. And, maybe one last one for me, just wanted to ask about the dealer network. Given the higher interest rates we're seeing out there for floor plan or inventory type lending, or even just lending in general, are any of your dealers experiencing any challenges finding adequate financing at decent rates? And is that affecting anyone's inventory decisions? And then maybe secondly, are there any dealerships that are potentially experiencing financial distress at the moment?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Yeah, a couple things. One is we have several large dealers that are very well financed and very well capitalized. In addition to that, given the amount of public funding that's available for our products that's been a positive tailwind. And the short answer to your question is we really haven't seen any issues with respect to our dealer network and we monitor it closely. We're very fortunate to have well financed dealers.

Michael Shlisky

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Outstanding. I'll leave it there. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Felix Boeschen with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Felix Boeschen

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Hey, I appreciate the comments on the 17% sequential improvement in output at two biggest facilities, but I did note that ESG sales were down just a big quarter over quarter. Can you maybe square that away for us? Just sort of what worked against you and maybe if you could also comment just how much the production for in-house rental equipment might have impacted revenue or EBIT with an ESG.

Ian Hudson

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

So, Felix, you're talking sequentially?

Felix Boeschen

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Yes,

Ian Hudson

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Yeah, so, I think aftermarket was a piece of that. There is less aftermarket business in Q4 than that, sorry, in Q1 versus Q4. The other piece would be, as you pointed to was just the production of the units in the rental fleet. We added about I think it was about $18 million gross into the rental fleet during Q1. We wouldn't have been in putting any of that really in the fleet during Q4. So that's probably the biggest factor. We also had a bit of a step down at TBI with the chassis supply situation. So versus Q4, that was down a little bit in Q1.

Felix Boeschen

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Got it. Super helpful. And then h how do you feel about the rental size today, just relative to the opportunities you're expecting sort of into the back half of the year and presumably into 2024

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Given the lead times that we're experiencing, rental demand continues to be strong. Also we're seeing several contractors, as they bid and execute on some of these public funding through the Infrastructure Act, supplement their fleets through rental. So we're very encouraged by what we're seeing.

Felix Boeschen

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Got it. And then just maybe if I could, my last one, but Jennifer, if you don't mind giving some more color around maybe specific vehicle vocations. I'm curious how orders in TBI is holding up versus maybe some of their municipal centric locations?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Yeah. We focused on OX bodies and we gave the example in terms of what the A-20 [ph] improvement initiative could do, and that's a good example of where -- they're sitting on record backlogs. In addition to that, where we're seeing some softness is really on the Class 5 chassis side of things. So two of our businesses are reliant on Class 5 chassis, and those are down year-over-year. That's where we've seen some softness across the rest of the enterprise. Excuse me, on the dump body side of things we're seeing various puts and takes depending on what chassis availability is.

Ian Hudson

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Yeah. And, I think Felix, if you look at kind of the breakdown, municipal was up 11% year-over-year. That's, a lot of that is driven by strength and street sweeper orders, which is tied to some of the funding as Jennifer mentioned, the American Rescue Plan Act. Yeah, I think we talked about the fact that Q1 of last year was the prior record in terms of the highest orders. So even when we are exiting Q1 of this year to Q1 of last year, that was a pretty -- it's pretty strong comp. But even with all of that, we didn't see a major drop off year-over-year in any product lines. The largest product line was down year-over-year was probably the down touch, which was down about $11 million year-over-year in terms of orders and that's about 15%, but even with that order intake, it was still at a pretty good level.

Felix Boeschen

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Got it. Really appreciate the time.

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions] Our next question comes from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Steve Barger

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

As I think about your focus on trucks per day, your guidance increase and your existing capacity, presumably this will be the low quarter for ESG revenue, but I'm wondering, do you expect that revenue will be fairly level quarter to quarter for the rest of the year as you build to these really strong demand levels?

Ian Hudson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yeah, Steve, I think we'll see in Q2 and Q3, those tend to be strongly like because of the aftermarket business, which we would expect that to pick up. So I think we'd expect Q3 to be our highest for the year in terms of both revenue and EPS and that's primarily driven by the strength in the aftermarket business because you have three solid months of a lot of activities. So I think our cadence would be, to your point, Q1 we would expect to be the lowest. Then we'd see a step up in Q2 and then Q3 we'd expect that to be the high point. And then, Q4 is always relatively strong, but we would expect Q3 to be kind of the highest quarter of the year,

Steve Barger

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

But presumably you wouldn't expect to see a significant drop off in Q4 just even as aftermarket goes away. But if supply chain has improved given your backlog, you'd be running at high capacity, right.

Ian Hudson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yeah, agreed. Yeah.

Steve Barger

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. Your, your M&A strategy has obviously been focused on bolt on deals, surveying good niches. As you think about the funding environment and the visibility out there, is that driving deal multiples higher? And are you changing how you think about multiples? What looks reasonable just given how you see growth and your ability to leverage the dealer network?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

It all depends on the synergy numbers and we're pretty conservative when we developed those numbers, but again, we've seen multiples actually come down over the last year. I think a combination of the pandemic and supply chain challenges, particularly in the markets, the primary transactions we're looking at, we've seen more reasonable market multiples. And we've also, candidly we talked about in the last call, we have a number of sellers that have come to us and said, we want to sell to Federal Signal, which we've developed a pretty good reputation in the marketplace as being a preferred buyer.

Steve Barger

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. Good. And then last quarter you talked a bit about higher the normal investment in the lease fleet and allocating the production capacity to that. With demand this strong, are you more inclined to keep third party customers happy or to make that lease fleet investment? Or how are you going to balance that as supply chain improves and you work to reduce lead times?

Ian Hudson

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yeah, I think Steve, the heavy investment for the year was really doing Q1 and their reasons for that is really you want to have the units added to the rental fleet come, April, May time, just when the season kind of starts picking up. So I think the heavy sense of production was during Q1, and that's one of the factors why Q1 is our lowest in terms of revenue and EPS. So, there may be some incremental investment as we go throughout the course of the year, but I think Q1 is when the bulk of that takes place.

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

And we're very we're very focused on reducing those lead times with increasing unit production.

Steve Barger

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Right. Yeah. And that generates, obviously better revenue, but also good operating leverages as you, offset the absorption.

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Volume matters.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Walter Liptak with Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

Hi, thanks. Good morning guys and congrats for the next quarter. I wanted to ask first about the SKU reduction at body [ph] was really interesting and it's great to see just to hear the stories about 80/20 work that's happening. But the question I have is about is this an initiative that's been ongoing and you just decided to call this one out? Or is there more of an effort to bring 80/20 to some of the newly acquired businesses?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

Yeah, a couple things, Welt, this was just one example of many and our OX [ph] team has done, such a good job and what I really was trying to message is we come out of this pandemic supply chain, our teams, there's a refocused effort on 80/20 across the enterprise. And I think what's important also to note is it's such a part of our culture that we've hired a dedicated individual as part of the corporate team now that is working with each of these businesses on these 80/20 type projects and so we believe that will be a driving factor in our margin improvement as we go forward.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

That's great. Good to hear. I want to do a follow up on the selling prices and inflation and I wondered, are you seeing there's kind of a mix out there of some inflation and some material costs coming down. So I wonder if you could just comment on, where you're seeing inflation in 2023 and where are selling prices going? Are you able to get price kind of across the board or are there some products that were -- pricing is a little bit more difficult?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

Yeah, we've seen like many companies, wage inflation, in addition to that steel, we've seen that come down some depending on the type of steel that you're talking about. But, that kind of can vary month to month. We have a large percentage as we've talked about before of our steel fixed as we move forward price that is something that it depends business to business and each one of our businesses monitor and market conditions, we've been successful at price increases across the businesses as reflected in the numbers.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

Okay, great and then maybe a last one you, just another follow up. You commented that some of the multiples are a little bit lower and I wondered if you had a thought about why it's great that some multiples are coming down and I wonder if you have a thought about why is that are there more private equity funds that are liquidating to raise capital? Why do you think multiples are coming lower?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

I think the interest expense and the impact interest rates have on private equities models plays an important role in the types of transactions that we're looking at. In addition to that as we've talked about before, as we do more and more acquisitions, we've become more of a preferred buyer. And with many of our transactions, it's not all about price. It's about much more than price. And I think that I'm proud of the reputation that our teams have developed with respect to M&A and the execution integration. And I think that will benefit us long term, as we've seen in some of the transactions that we've usually done. Trackless is a great example.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Partners. Please go ahead.

Okay. That sounds great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

David Storms

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thank you and good morning. With regards to the production improvements that you've mentioned a lot can you break that out in terms of, is that driven by supply chain improvements? Is that driven by the operational improvements through the 80/20 initiative that you've talked about and how much runway do you see left there?

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

We've seen obviously some supply chain improvements, and that's been a critical driver. We've also, the teams are, there's been a refocus as I mentioned earlier is we've gotten out of the nightmare of pandemic and supply chain on our 80/20 initiative. So we've seen benefits of that at various businesses across the enterprise. We continue to believe, we're kind of back to, as we talked about it, our businesses were back to that kind of Q1 of 2020 type unit production levels at a couple of our businesses. But, there's still room for more. We did invested in our expansion of our largest facility and we still believe there's more opportunity for margin expansion as supply chain improves and we're excited about those opportunities.

David Storms

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Very helpful, thank you. And then Ian you mentioned an increased demand in rentals. They are expected through the rest of the year. Do you see this coming as at the expense of sales or in concert with grown sales? And then also any relation that has to any aftermarket sales through the rest of 2023?

Ian Hudson

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yeah, no, I think we we're expecting strong demand for all of our product offerings. I think if you look at the contribution of aftermarket, it was about 27% in of ESGs revenues in Q1. That was about the same level as Q1 of last year and also for the whole of last year. So I think our growth, on the new equipment side, has been keeping pace with the growth that we've seen in aftermarket. That's what we'd expect. And I think with lead times where they're at I think having the offerings that we have where we can offer used equipment, sales and rentals, that positions us really well to serve our customers. So, I think as we think about the potential for the infrastructure bill and the various projects, having the ability to sell new, to provide rentals to sell used, I think that positions us really well.

David Storms

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

That's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference over to Jennifer Sherman, Chief Executive Officer for any closing remarks.

Jennifer Sherman

Analyst

In closing, I'd like to reiterate that we are confident in the long-term prospects for our businesses and our markets. Our foundation is strong and we are focused on delivering profitable long-term growth through the execution of our strategic initiatives. We would like to express our thanks to our stockholders, employees, distributors, dealers and customers for their continued support. Thank you for joining us today, and we'll talk to you soon.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.