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Federal Signal Corporation (FSS)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 27, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference. Today’s call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn it over to Ian Hudson. Please go ahead, sir.

Ian Hudson

Management

Good morning and welcome to Federal Signal’s first quarter 2017 conference call. I am Ian Hudson, the company’s Interim Chief Financial Officer. Also with me on the call today is Jennifer Sherman, our President and Chief Executive Officer. We will refer to some presentation slides today as well as to the earnings news release which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our website, federalsignal.com, clicking on the Investor Call icon and signing in to the webcast. We have also posted the slide presentation and the news release under the Investors tab on our website. Before we begin, I’d like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor language found in today’s news release and in Federal Signal’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. In our news release and filings, we reconcile these non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10-Q later today. I’m going to start today by addressing our first quarter financial results, Jennifer will then provide an update on our markets and some of our strategic initiatives including a review of our acquisition criteria, before wrapping up with our thoughts on our outlook for the remainder of 2017. After our prepared comments, Jennifer and I will address your questions. Our consolidated first quarter financial results are provided in today’s earnings new release. Overall, our first quarter results exceeded expectations. Consolidated net sales for the quarter were $178 million, up 3% compared to the prior year period. Operating income of $11.3 million was down from $16.1 million last year.…

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you, Ian. I’d like to start by providing some color on the first quarter, as Ian mentioned we entered 2017 with a smaller backlog, we carried a reduced margin than in prior year due to low industrial demand that persisted throughout most of 2016, and a higher concentration of orders for products manufactured by other OEM. As such, we were expecting a soft first quarter, but we’re pleased to report results with exceeded both revenue and earnings expectations. During Q1, our Safety and Security Systems Group saw similar operating margin benefit to those experience in Q4 last year resulting from actions taken last year to right size of business and reduced material costs. We were also pleased to report significant increases in orders both sequentially and in comparison to the first quarter of last year. In fact, our first quarter orders with highest reported orders for our current group in any quarter and at least the last ten years. The year-over-year order improvement was largely driven by increased orders within the Environmental Solutions Group, which reported orders of $167 million in the first quarter of 2017 more than double its reported orders in the prior year quarter. This improvement was largely driven by organic order growth in excess of $30 million, as well as the effects of the prior-year Joe Johnson Equipment acquisition. The sequential order improvement was primarily driven by $46 million increase in orders within the Environmental Solutions Group, largely represented by improved industrial demand for sewer cleaners and vacuum trucks, higher municipal orders for street sweepers and increased orders for the distribution of refuse trucks. Our municipal markets, which have historically represented about 60% of our revenues, remain steady overall. In Q1, strong municipal demand for street sweepers and sewer cleaners within ESG has been partially…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Chris Moore from CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Christopher Moore

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, guys.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning, Chris.

Christopher Moore

Analyst

Yes. So just you had talked about previously first quarter being – earnings being 14% to 16% of the year’s. Is that a number – just trying to understand how to look at that, that number adjusted up a little bit given the results were a little bit better than you were looking for, because obviously that implies a higher kind of guidance range for 2017?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes. I think, Chris, the 14% to 16% was kind of probably more of a point in time number that we had, when we gave our outlook range at the end of February. Q1 did end up a little better than we were expecting. There were some benefits on the margins at SSG that probably weren’t factored in when we gave the Q1 14% to 16% range. So we continue to believe that at this point in time the outlook range we gave in February is appropriate.

Christopher Moore

Analyst

Got you. Okay. It sounds like you had a good quarter for the Prodigy excavators. The margins on those are at the high-end of what you guys sell or…?

Ian Hudson

Management

They’re good margin products. They’re not as good as the – I mean, the HydroExcavators come in three sizes. There is the Paradigm, which is the smallest size. There is the Prodigy, which is the mid size. And then there is a full size hydro. The full size hydros are the really strong margin products. The Prodigy margins are very good. And what we’re seeing is we’re seeing some pull-through from our utility initiative on the Paradigm, where we’re now seeing some up-selling of the Prodigies, which they are still good margin products.

Christopher Moore

Analyst

Got you. And in terms of the operating margins on ESG, I know it gets a little bit – you need to add back in some of the adjustments and things like that. But moving forward in 2017, is the number, the 8.1% for Q1 is that something that can be bettered in the balance of the year? I know there was – there’s lots of things in there you talked about, operating leverage, et cetera. But can we get back to double-digits on that?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes. I think, Chris, one of the things that we made reference to on the call was just the impact of the depreciation expense on the rental fleet. And as we move forward one of the things that we’re going to start, also probably recurring too, is EBITDA margin, just in reference to that. So we will be putting out, as we do with the long-term operating margin target, we’ll be putting out some long-term EBITDA margin targets as well. And those should be – those I think on an EBITDA basis, when you strip out the depreciation effects, you’ll certainly see the double-digit margins for ESG.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We talked about last year the impact that volume has on those margin targets. And as move forward to the year, that’s something we’ll continue to monitor closely. And we expect to see some upside.

Christopher Moore

Analyst

Got it. And last question, just in terms of – sounds like your M&A pipeline is getting pretty full. Is there – from an initial leverage standpoint, is there kind of a level that you’re comfortable at initially if you see something that’s a little bit bigger than what you might have thought initially?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We talked about a three times leverage. It is a clear path to delever.

Christopher Moore

Analyst

Got you. All right, guys. I appreciate it.

Ian Hudson

Management

Thanks, Chris.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Steve Barger from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open, sir.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning, Steve.

Ian Hudson

Management

Hi, Steve.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Good morning. Yes, I’ll go back to the nice uptick in orders. Sorry, if I missed this, but is any of that activity for stocking orders for dealer or rental, or are those all for end-users?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

They’re primarily for end users.

Steve Barger

Analyst

And so all those orders ship in the next quarter or two?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Correct.

Steve Barger

Analyst

And so, as you look, I know it’s fairly early, only a month into 2Q. But are you trending to a book-to-bill above 1 in 2Q in ESG as well?

Ian Hudson

Management

I think we certainly did in Q1. I think we were encouraged by the orders that we saw in ESG in Q1. I think it’s still early days. There is still some uncertainty in the industrial market. We were encouraged obviously with the uptick in industrial. But there’s still some hesitation about capital outlays. We also had – entered the year with a pretty low backlog. So there were some of that that is building our backlog back to kind of a more sustainable level. But I think, we’ll probably have more visibility. We haven’t finished April yet, so we want to see the orders for April, and then we’ll come back probably at the end of the second quarter, when we have more information.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Okay. Well, I guess to that point, you said you saw signs of momentum in industrial. What are you seeing that makes you think things are turning?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

There is a couple of things that we look at. We are encouraged by the progress. Also, we’re in early days on our utility initiative. We expect this year to double the sales of our Paradigm product line. And we’ve also seen pull-through to some of our other hydro product lines. With respect to oil and gas, we haven’t factored any meaningful improvement in those markets in 2017. We have seen the amount of used equipment at the thirty-party auctions reduced. In addition to that, the service work for that type of equipment, we monitor that also closely and we’ve see that increased.

Ian Hudson

Management

I think one other thing, Steve, that we’ve seen that’s an encouraging sign is we’ve seen some pretty good utilization rates from a rental fleet on the hydro-excavation equipment. What that might suggest is that while the rental utilization is good, it might suggest that people are pausing in terms of purchasing the equipment outright. But that’s one of the benefit the rental fleet has for us.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Right. Well, I guess on hydro-vac specifically given some of the new product introduction is it your views that that business is up year-over-year in 2017 versus last year.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Yes.

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes.

Steve Barger

Analyst

And if I heard right, the Paradigm in the mid size trucks are growing faster than the big ones. Is that a function of weight restriction regulations at all in certain geographies or what’s driving that mix?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

No. It’s really is a purpose-built product for the utility market, and this is a new initiative for us historically. We haven’t done a lot of business in the utility market. We now have a portfolio product, and a dedicated channel. We’re starting to see the benefits of that initiative.

Steve Barger

Analyst

So true success in the marketplace with a new product introduction?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Correct. And I would add there, they were also encouraged by the introduction of our Wolf product line from the Westech business that we acquired last year, we introduce the product at large trade show in February, we’re in very early days, but it’s off to a strong start.

Steve Barger

Analyst

All right. And I’ll just ask one more, and get back in line. Can you talk about lead times for the big purchased items, right now, whether it’s chassis or anything else? Are you seeing those stretched to you, or is everything still flowing pretty smoothly?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

It is still flowing pretty smoothly.

Steve Barger

Analyst

All right. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Walter Liptak with Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Hi, thank you. Good morning, guys.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning, Walter.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

I wanted to go back to the first question about guidance. Thinking about the orders and the way that the first quarter trended, now let me just – if you can just revisit why you didn’t take up your guidance for the full year?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

In February, when we set the guidance, we talked about the order trends that we were seeing in December, January and February which were improving. And we back that into the guidance. We also noted that first quarter was going to be our softest quarter. So there was going to be meaningful improvement in quarters two, three and four. So the increased order trends give us confident that in the full-year guidance, and we will be able to achieve that improvement in quarters two, three and four.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. So let me – then ask a little bit about the orders, I wonder if you could maybe the better – best way to look at sequentially orders that you took in this quarter around the vehicle for the business. Can you break out for us, what kind of products are there for – was it largely the sweepers and sewer cleaners? And how much of it is – I think those refuse would be pass-through through the rental or through Joe Johnson, and if you can just parse out for us what kind of products there they work out there for orders?

Ian Hudson

Management

So, Walt, of the – sequentially in our orders were almost $50 million from Q4 last year, of that $46 million came from the Environmental Solutions Group. About half of that improvement was the organic improvement in our legacy business and about half of that was from Joe Johnson from the acquisition. And then within the – of that improvement of Joe Johnson about half of it was for products that somebody else manufacturers and about half of it was for our products. So it’s kind of a mixed bag. There is – of the products that we manufacture, the improvements were really from industrial markets for sewer cleaners and vacuum trucks. And then we also saw higher demand from municipal orders of street sweepers.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. All right.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

What’s encouraging, Walt, is it – the improvement is not just driven by one particular business. It’s really are Vactor, Elgin and Joe Johnson businesses.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. Great. Yes, thanks for that color. I wonder if you can tell us a little bit about selling prices. We’re seeing raw materials and I think chassis prices have been up recently as well. How are you doing on price and price cost?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We operate in competitive markets, as you know. But we manufacture premium products and we’ve been – we have several programs in place regarding pricing discipline. And we’ve been able to increase our prices this year. And we’re confident in our ability to continue to do so.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay, great. In the – and you talk to little bit more about M&A and you got some very large targets out there for acquisitions, the aspirations for acquiring businesses. What does the pipeline look like this year? You think you’d be able to get one?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

It’s always difficult to know until you sign a deal. But our pipeline is active and we’re looking at a number of different opportunities. And we try to lay out for you guys on the call in terms of the criteria that we’re looking at.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. You’ve done share repurchases in the past. Did you repurchase stock this quarter? And what’s your feeling on share repurchase?

Ian Hudson

Management

We didn’t do any share repurchases in Q1. In terms of our priorities, we tend to prefer investing in organic growth first, then we look at acquisitions, then we pay dividends. We paid a dividend of $4.2 million in Q1 and did a similar – just announced a similar one for Q2. And then we look at opportunistic share repurchases and we’ll continue to do that through the rest of the year.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. All right, thank you.

Ian Hudson

Management

In terms of remaining authorization, we still have about $31 million left under our authorization for share repurchases.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global. Your line is open, sir.

Okay. Great. All right, thank you.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you, Walt.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Marco Rodriguez from Stonegate Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Just a real quick housekeeping item, do you by chance have the gross margins per segment?

Ian Hudson

Management

We do, Marco. Those are going to be disclosed in the Q, when we file that. I don’t have them handy right now. But when the Q is filed shortly, you’ll see them in those materials.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst

Got you, okay. Excuse me, then just kind of coming back and circling all around the ESG group. Obviously, operating margins are somewhat depressed here, partially because of the D&A, but then also you’ve got the negative operating leverage that you guys have pointed out fairly consistently. Just wondering if you have done anything in terms of the cost structure to kind of help alleviate that negative operating leverage. And if so, is there a new revenue run rate where you kind of start to breakeven on that operating leverage and then you kind of get the positive effect going forward?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, I mean, we’ve taken some of the SG&A cost out of the ESG business. It’s probably not clear in the comparability of the numbers because of the addition of the acquisitions. But if you take into account the acquisition and normalize it, then we’ve taken some fixed cost out of the ESG. We continue to look at the cost of our materials. In terms of leverage, obviously, Q1 of this year we had some pretty low sales volumes. What gives us encouragement going forward is any uptick in orders whether it will hopefully help our volumes moving forward and that should help us on the – as we can get more equipment through our factory and then we should get the benefits from that operating leverage.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst

Got you. And just to clarify, if I heard you correctly, on the order uptick you guys saw here in Q1 for ESG, and I guess the company in general, was it fairly spread between industrial and municipal? Did I get that correctly?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, of the $50 million sequential improvement, I said $46 million was ESG. And now that amount, it was a fairly even split between our legacy businesses and then Joe Johnson. Within the legacy businesses we saw both high municipal orders for street sweepers as well as higher industrial demand for sewer cleaners and vacuum trucks. So as Jennifer said, it was really across the board. It was – we saw some nice improvement.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

And it’s this broad based improvement that gives us encouragement.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst

Got you. Got you. Okay. And to follow up some of the questions here on the M&A pipeline, could you maybe kind of put a little bit more color in terms of – do you have more opportunities now compared to let’s say the same time last year? And are the valuation numbers that you’re looking at, are they somewhat attractive, a little stretched, any additional information there?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

As you know, we bought two companies last year and I would say in our acquisition pipeline as we previously reported. It’s an important part of our growth story. So we’re active in the market and then we’ll continue to do so. With respect to valuation, we will be disciplined. And regardless of what’s in the marketplace, we walked away from a number of acquisitions because of valuations that didn’t make sense for Federal Signal. And we will continue to employ that disciplined approach going forward.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst

Got you. And a last quick question, I’ll jump back in the queue. Working capital here in the quarter was obviously very helpful to your cash flow. And you did note some timing issues with the payables. Is there anything in there that is, I guess, kind of sustainable that you should see more of an addition to cash flow from working capital or is it just kind of an elaboration kind of everything kind of hit at once here for Q1?

Ian Hudson

Management

I think that, Marco, the thing that is difficult to predict sometimes is with the inventory levels at JJE. I mean, they saw some strong orders in Q1, though to fill those orders you need a lot of inventory. So some of the timing effects of carrying the inventory with JJE distribution level can cause some swings in the working capital and can result in our cash flow being a little bit more volatile than maybe it historically has. There is a number of initiatives we have in place to improve the working capital in terms of collections, in terms of improving terms and then things like that. So we’d expect it to be difficult to predict. But I think, in terms of the legacy businesses we have some improvements we’re planning on implementing.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst

Got it. Thanks a lot, guys, appreciate your time.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Barger, your line is open.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Sorry, sorry, I was muted. A question about your new COO if he’s in the room or…

Jennifer Sherman

Management

He is.

Steve Barger

Analyst

I think he said he’ll be helping out with the acquisition focus. But is there a priority list for his initial kind of action internally?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Yes, he is in the room. And we’re thrilled that he’s joined the company. Initially, we have a lot of different projects going on. Both our SSG and our ESG businesses report directly to Dave. So he’s working I would say the majority of the time with those businesses, but he will be uniquely involved in any acquisition with respect to both the evaluation of the acquisitions and the integration of the acquisitions. So we’re very fortunate to have his skill-set. And we think that they really are perfect with respect to the types of growth that we anticipate for Federal Signal going forward.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Understood. And you did have some acquisition related charges in the quarter. Was that any of that related due to due diligence for potential deals or was that all for prior activity?

Ian Hudson

Management

So there is a piece of that, Steve, that relates to every quarter at least for the next couple of years. We have to re-measure the fair value of the earnouts of Joe Johnson. That flows through that line. So about half of that charge related to basically just the accretion of the discount we took just to record at present value. There was some normal expense relating to some exploratory diligence that we conducted.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That’s all I have. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Jennifer Sherman

Management

In closing, I’d like to reiterate that we are confident in the long-term prospects for our businesses in our markets. We would like to express our thanks to our stockholders, employees, distributors, dealers, and customers for their continued support. Thank you for joining us today.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.