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Q2 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 29, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation Second Quarter Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Brian Cooper, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. You may begin.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

Good morning, and welcome to Federal Signal's Second Quarter 2014 Conference Call. I'm Brian Cooper, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Also with me on this call are Dennis Martin, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jennifer Sherman, our Chief Operating Officer. We'll refer to some presentation slides today, as well as to the news release, which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our website, federalsignal.com, clicking on the Investor Call icon and signing into the webcast. We've also posted the slide presentation and the news release under the Investor tab on our website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor language found in today's news release and in Federal Signal's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. In our news release and filings, we reconcile these non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10-Q today. I'm going to start by addressing our financial results, then Dennis will provide his perspective on our performance and Jennifer will comment on some of our operations and our outlook. Looking at the financials for the second quarter, our consolidated results reflect solid growth in revenue, expanding margins and robust orders and backlog. Consolidated operating income was $23.9 million, which represents a 31% improvement versus Q2 last year. Sales were 5% higher, and operating margin rose to 10.2%. Interest expense was $0.9 million, down from $1.7 million last year. And adjusted net income from continuing operations for Q2 was $17.1 million or $0.27 per share. In last year's second quarter,…

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Thanks, Brian. From my perspective, our consolidated results for the quarter were excellent, largely driven by outstanding performance at ESG and much improved results at SSG. Orders, backlog, sales, earnings and EPS were all strong. And our operating margin of 10.2% is the highest quarterly result in more than 8 years. That is an important milestone, which could not have been reached without the focus and dedication of our people over the last several years. At ESG, we benefit from continued strong order growth and operating leverage. With the recent improvements we've made in our manufacturing facilities to add capacity, any additional volume that leverages our existing operations makes a strong contribution at the bottom line. I continue to believe that we're doing the right things to improve productivity and output. Our products are well-positioned and the markets are progressing. We continue to expand market coverage with investment in our sales force, and the recent introduction of a new service center in North Dakota. The second quarter results benefited from our new production line at Vactor. And across ESG, we've done a good job. We had good demand from both industrial and municipal markets. SSG reported a much improved quarter, with operating income more than doubling. Some of this was attributable to the fact that the prior quarter included inefficiencies associated with last year's ERP system implementation. But the majority of the improvement is due to improved sales volume in our domestic and European public safety markets, as well as the effect of increased productivity. On the industrial systems side, we continue to invest in developing new products and in expanding coverage of significant markets. Jennifer will talk more about operational challenges that FRG experienced in the second quarter. However, we believe that with its increased backlog, FRG is well-positioned…

Jennifer L. Sherman

Management

Thank you, Dennis. I want to start with an update on a couple of legal items that we just learned recently. First, we were successful at the Appellate Court [indiscernible] Illinois in overturning a Cook County trial court certification of a class-action related to hearing loss. The verdict reaffirms our belief that a class-action trial is not an appropriate mechanism to litigate hearing loss claims. We strongly believe in our lifesaving siren products, and we will continue to defend them aggressively. We have an excellent record of success. Since 2000, we have prevailed in nearly 85% of all hearing loss cases that have gone to trial, and many more individual claims have been dismissed prior to trial, including all cases filed by fire fighters in New York, Maryland, Missouri and New Jersey. The second item is an adverse court ruling on a commercial dispute in Latvia. We are extremely disappointed with the initial ruling and will file an appeal to be heard by a 3-judge panel that is likely to have deeper experience with some critical aspects of the dispute. After careful and thorough analysis, we continue to believe that we should prevail and appeal. As a result, we did not record a liability for this matter in the second quarter. The appeal process is projected to take approximately 2 years. In the event that our appeal is unsuccessful or not fully successful, we would expect to record a charge that could range up to about $5 million. As you've already heard, FRG, which is our Bronto Skylift business, had a disappointing quarter. Over the last few months, we've been working to improve the configuration flow of our manufacturing facilities, including the installations of a new paint system, new robotic welding and a new machining center. These capital investments have…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go to our first question from Shivangi Tipnis with Global Hunter Securities.

Shivangi Tipnis - Global Hunter Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

My first question would be on the guidance. You upgraded the guidance by about $0.04 to $0.07 from the previous $0.79, which includes a sequential slowdown in quarter 3 as well. And even the tax rate is expected to be slightly higher from the earlier one, maybe on an average of the first half. So I was wondering if you're expecting the entire backlog and the orders of 21% to actually convert to sales. And how much of these $112 million backlog from the FRG is -- actually includes the deferred deliveries [ph]?

Brian S. Cooper

Management

Well, just to be clear about our orders and backlog, we count our orders when they're firm orders, very rarely, extremely rarely, do we ever not have an order go through and become as sale. And they remain in backlog until they do. So all of those orders will convert. Now will they all convert in the third quarter or fourth quarter, especially for Bronto? No, because those are longer delivery cycles. But the backlog is feeding all of our businesses and they're all, all have strong demand today.

Shivangi Tipnis - Global Hunter Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

So what gives you the actual confidence that you -- that the EPS actually increases by 4% to 7%, considering that not all of the backlog would actually convert to sales?

Brian S. Cooper

Management

Well, again, the backlog is orders that are ready to be filled. We're also constantly receiving new orders, so there's good demand. And as we look at the businesses -- well, as we look at the businesses, they all have good momentum.

Dennis J. Martin

Management

And the second quarter increase, which is giving us the confidence as well.

Shivangi Tipnis - Global Hunter Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, okay, sounds good. My second question is on the capital projects and the investments. Do you expect -- you said you expect to complete all your capital projects and investments in FRG in the second half. So do we expect to see any incremental CapEx in 2014 or that's going to be the same as you had earlier in your thoughts?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

It would be pretty close to the same as we've had earlier. We are evaluating a number of high-speed machine tools in a few of our businesses, but it won't have a major impact on the third and fourth quarter.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

And that's not specific to Bronto. That's -- it's really in our other businesses, where we're making some investments. As we've said previously in the year, our capital investment will be a little bit higher this year. It has been running probably more like $15 million in prior years, and it's more likely to be around $20 million this year. And that's because of the opportunities for growth that we're pursuing.

Shivangi Tipnis - Global Hunter Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, sounds good. And you talked about, apart from the operational inefficiencies and the supply chain issues, there was also a product mix, the unfavorable product mix in the FRG. So do we expect that to continue as a headwind in the second half, or you expect it to get better?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

We've resolved the supply vendor issue on the cylinders, so that will get better. And the final installation of a lot of the capital equipment that was purchased for the rearrangement of Bronto is being installed during the third quarter, should be finalized in the third quarter. So we certainly expect the fourth quarter to be much stronger than the third quarter at FRG, but we'll start to see improvement from here out.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

And on the product mix side, we do have some lower margin orders, which should primarily be completed by the end of the third quarter. There are always some, but we've had a higher concentration of those in the last couple of quarters.

Operator

Operator

And we'll go to our next question from Robert Kosowsky with Sidoti. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Just a quick question on backlog. It kind of centers around the Environmental Group and the Fire Rescue Group. Because I know, at least in Fire Rescue, you're doing some operational improvements, and in Environmental, you have had extended lead times previously. And I'm wondering the backlog growth, how much is back order versus good backlog growth, anyway you can kind of discuss that?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Well, I think, it's probably all good back order growth at this point. We're making progress on our ESG shipments. We've had increase in sweeper orders, so there's more backlog there, but it's all timed appropriately, we think, for delivery in the market. And really, the FRG, we talked about that, the issues they had getting product out because of the manufacturing shuffle in the plant. But we feel like we're making progress in all the areas with productivity, and we're just blessed with a lot of good orders. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay, so at least with the Environmental Group, you feel good about where lead times are right now, and the backlog we see right now is just the great business conditions going forward?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Right, we feel good about them. We like to have it on all the orders, and we're dealing with them. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And then, as far as the margins on the Environmental segment, was this a perfect storm in a good way, getting to that 16.6%, because it's well ahead of the range that you -- the goal that you have. And I'm just wondering, sustainability of this level of profitability?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Right. As we've talked in the past, from quarter-to-quarter, orders will go up -- margins will go up and down from order-to-order -- quarter-to-quarter, but we had an excellent mix of products. We had very high productivity rates out of Vactor, good operations out of our Belgian business. And so really, if you want to call it a perfect storm, it's true, I'd like to have one of those every quarter, but it was probably ahead of where it will be on a normal run rate. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. Then, I guess, just staying with Environmental, one other question. Some of the new fleet orders that you got for street sweepers, are these replacement business or are they share gains?

Jennifer L. Sherman

Management

In most situations, they were replacement business, they were customers that we have long-term relationships with. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And then finally, on the, on the SSG...

Jennifer L. Sherman

Management

[indiscernible] Strong demand for street sweeper products across North America. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay, good. And then finally on the SSG side. What, I know you mentioned some productivity improvements that you're seeing right now on the police side. And I'm wondering, kind of what the bridge is to get to that 14% to 16% margin goal from where we are right now. I know it was probably like 10% or so on average in the first half of this year, but it was a good second quarter. I'm wondering what we need to see happen to get to that higher margin rate?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Rob, the biggest part of the bridge is the return of business in the European markets, and return of volume in the U.S. markets on the police side.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

The other thing that will help drive it is continued growth in our systems business, which have good margins.

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Right, because if you look at the police business, I haven't seen the latest numbers, Jennifer, do you have the latest numbers? But the police business, Rob, as we've talked many times, dropped from something like 85,000 police registrations in 2007, down to a low in the 30,000 range, or high 30s. And we think it's back up to the 50s. So the police business, side of the business, has not recovered as fast as some of the other parts of the business. So the return of the volume would be helpful. And then, of course, as I said, the European business is doing well, but it's still much reduced volume from what it was previously, when we operated in those mid-teens kind of margins. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay, that's helpful. And then finally, just regarding some of the productivity improvements within SSG. How much of an opportunity is that from a margin expansion standpoint? Say if the volumes don't come back, how much can we see this better productivity lifting the profitability profile?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Well, labor is a small part of the cost of these kinds of products. In our entire business, labor is probably the -- it is the smallest component. So as the, if the market doesn't come back, we'll continue to adjust the size of our operations, as well as the productivity. But the productivity improvement in the last couple of quarters there has been significant in terms of the efficiency, and we think that will continue.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go to our next question from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

If I use 2011 as a base, your operating margin recovery has just been great, about 620 basis points, based on where I'm modeling the end of 2014. Mostly that's come through SG&A leverage, while gross margin's relatively flat over the past few years, and I know some of the reasons for that. But looking forward, can you talk about any specific initiatives you have in place to make the direct labor aspect of production more efficient, or is there anything you can do to reduce the time it takes on a per unit basis?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

If we do a deep dive into the operations, which we don't generally share publicly, you would find that we are improving the productivity in our manufacturing lines that are adding to that rather than just SG&A leverage. So on an operating basis, as an example, we measure productivity in our truck businesses by number of hours to build a truck, and we've seen significant improvements in those. The 80/20 work has also created more standard product than customized product flowing down the line. Not that we don't do customized product, but we don't let it interrupt the production lines as we did in the past. And we've actually -- we've seen the -- a lot of that margin improvement you've seen, or some of it anyways, has come out of that kind of improvement. So we've had some price, a lot of operation improvement and we're just, higher sales activity of higher-margin products, so better mix.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

And I know internal improvements are never truly done, but do you still feel like there's a decent amount of runway in front of you in terms of taking time out or improving per unit productivity?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

We do. Some of the -- for the production lines, Steve, we've put in place are just coming out. As we said, the benefits are ahead of us. The work at FRG, we will begin to see that as we move ahead here. We put robots in, automated machining centers, a new automated paint system, things like that, that will continue to drive margin improvement for the next years. And our new line at Vactor is just up, starting in April, and that's increasing productivity every day. We're working at Elgin with many productivity improvements that are going in place there, including One Piece Flow and we're staged for a new line to go in, sometime in the fall, toward the end of the year there. So the gains are still ahead of us in a lot of ways.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Got it. And obviously, cash flow and your balance sheet are a lot healthier now, than they have been in years past. Are there still opportunities to bring high dollar purchased items in-house or bring in any outsourced services to bring total cost down?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

That's a balance, Steve, between the demand in the market and our ability to get the capacity out the door. So we constantly are balancing what we outsource or what we bring in the house. But we've been working diligently at redesigning components and bringing them back in where it makes sense. And likewise, using 80/20, we put components outside that we think are really hindering our production. So there's always opportunity.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Got it. And so as you think about, and this is kind of a backlog question, but as you think about the opportunities you have to improve your throughput, if you were to keep price and mix constant in ESG, for instance, could you grow 10% on a unit basis next year if the backlog supported that?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

We could probably grow more than that physically, but I'm not predicting that, that's what we'll do.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Yes, I understand. I'm just trying to get a sense of your capacity before you have to spend money on physical infrastructure.

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Yes, no. We could -- in all cases, we could grow that or more without adding capacity.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

In all cases meaning that it wouldn't be major capital.

Dennis J. Martin

Management

It would be minor capital.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

Right.

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Elgin, FRG and Safety, clearly have the opportunity to grow twice that -- twice the 50%. We could grow 50% in some of those businesses. The JetStream business and the Vactor business still have healthy headroom in terms of growth, based on the product lines -- some of the lines we put in place, the strategies we're using to deploy materials and all that. So we have headroom without spending major capital.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

So when you think about all the progress you've made in terms of operating margin expansion over the last few years, do you look at this as just now getting to where the company should have been anyway, and you still have the real incremental improvement coming from focus -- your own focused approach to how you want to run the business in front of you or ...?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

No, I think what you're seeing out of ESG today is a good combination of all the business strategies we've deployed, including pricing, 80/20, simplification of our product lines, and we're operating at a highly leveraged level in the -- in Vactor as an example. And so I think -- we have never operated at this level. So I think there's still headroom, but I won't say that this is an unnatural place. It's more of a natural place for us now because of all of the work our teams have done. But it's leverage-dependent in a lot of ways, too.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Right, fine. And just conceptually across the portfolio, what percentage of your revenue is coming from the energy end markets now and how fast is that growing, if you can quantify it?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

We don't specifically measure that, but we think our hydro-excavator product line, a lot of our Jetstream product line, it's coming from those areas. We just opened a new operation in North Dakota to take advantage of the energy boom that's going on there. So we think it's a longer range, stable growing part of our market. We've just taken 2 sales engineers and focused them as specialists in the energy area. And we're thinking about adding a couple more. So we see it is a long, sustainable opportunity for us to take our products that we're good at and modify them for that market and penetrate the market even deeper.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

And I think, it's....

Dennis J. Martin

Management

And Safety same way, with our Industrial Systems Group, that's all primarily all energy-related on the high-end systems business.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

And Steve, I think you need to understand, some of these things are a little difficult to measure. The same contractors who are working on energy and using our products, might be working in a pulp and paper mill a week later, so we don't have an aggregate measure. But I think we have a pretty solid feel that the incremental growth is largely, has a bigger percentage coming from the energy markets.

Steve Barger - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Right. Okay. And one question as a follow-up. This is my last question from the last call. Can you update us on the police car upfitting pilot program? I think last quarter, you said that you were working with specifically somebody in California and that drew interest from other potential customers. How is that going and is it offsetting what's been a weaker police car market?

Jennifer L. Sherman

Management

Yes, it's an important part in our growth initiatives in our Public Safety Systems business. We've seen strong interest from Los Angeles and those orders continue. And we continue to now respond to inquiries from both California and other parts of that region. So we're encouraged by what we see.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go to our next question from Robert Kosowsky with Sidoti. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Just one other follow-up question. On the stock buyback, is this the level that we should be seeing on a quarterly basis and just kind of any other thoughts on that?

Brian S. Cooper

Management

Yes, Steve -- or Rob, I'm sorry. We are going to continue with the authorization that we have in place. So that's not a bad level, but I don't know if it will be a steady-state, necessarily. Robert A. Kosowsky - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And then one final business question. You noticed -- I noticed the big Middle East order on the street sweeper side. Is this a new end market for you, to get a little more in international markets, or is this something that you've already had exposure from that region?

Dennis J. Martin

Management

The Middle East has always been a good market for Elgin products, primarily sweepers, then also for some Vactor products and clearly for our Jetstream products. The thing about the Middle East is that with the tensions that occur there, the market ebbs and flows. So one year, you'll have big activity and another year, it might be no activity. And our team has done a great job working over there in the market. And so these are existing markets and coverages, it's just the cycle of their business.

Operator

Operator

At this time, we appear to have no further questions.

Dennis J. Martin

Management

Well, with that, I would like to thank everyone for joining us today and sharing in this discussion of our business. And we're excited about where we're going, and we look forward to talking to all of you on the next call. Thank you very much.

Brian S. Cooper

Management

Thank you.

Jennifer L. Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes today's conference. We appreciate your participation.