George J. Carter
Analyst · Stifel
John, this is George. In terms of guidance, we do not have more debt factored into the equation. Because guidance does exclude new acquisitions, dispositions, et cetera. So we're really looking at the existing portfolio as it stands. And that includes the debt as it stands. John Demeritt sort of gave you the view that we have of the revolver portion or floating-rate portion of our debt. Again, 67% is fixed, the rest is floating. For us, again on dispositions and acquisitions, back and forth with that flow, that amount of revolver seems appropriate to us and we are likely to keep that. But I think the bigger picture is one that, if you give me a little moment here, probably is worth explaining. And to look at the bigger picture, you have to go back to 2007, 2008, the financial crisis and subsequent recession. At that time, 2008, 2007, FSP, unlike many other real estate companies, had no debt, and that was the good news. And we had planned that. We did not plan or foresee the financial crisis portion, but we did think pricing was getting high and we thought leverage was getting high and we stayed on leverage, and that was really good news for us. The bad news for us in 2007 and '08, is that we had a profit source from our investment banking business that basically went away, investment banking all over the country shut down and ours was no exception. Ultimately, we exited that business. And the other piece of bad news is that we had a lot of lease rollover in the worst part of that recession. So the strategic business plan that flowed from 2007 and 2008 was to use our balance sheet and some new equity, which was, as you know, we've done; to acquire properties at hopefully, the bottom of the cycle; not to retire debt, we didn't have debt to retire; and to use capital to lease vacancies. So -- and again, not to retire debt. So we're acquiring and releasing vacancy, and that was the strategic business plan. So as you -- if you think about the rest of the world then, most people were raising capital then of various types to deal with their existing debt. We were raising capital to acquire and to lease space because of our large tenant rollover during that period of time. And so we started with a revolver. We then termed out a 5-year piece, we then termed out a 7-year piece. And the plan had always been that before we kept terming out to 10 years and went to the public or private markets, that if we could get our total market capitalization up around that $2 billion level, which we have done, then we would consider the possibility of going to the credit agencies and looking into getting a credit rating and if we could do that, accessing the 10-year markets would be less costly, both in terms of rate and in terms of covenants. And that's -- it's still the plan. At the core of it, John, is a view of this cycle, if you want to call it that, which may be right or wrong or somewhere in between, but everybody has to have a view. And our view of this cycle is that it is going to be on the upside here, a very long, slow growth cycle. And that there are some structural issues in the economy and in the demographics of our country, which probably prevents a high runaway inflation early on, which tends to be -- which tends to occur -- in the past has occurred primarily because of employment supply/demand imbalances. Structural issues like age of the population on consumption and technology. Again, demographics and technology are big, but this -- and government regulation and a lot of other things. If we're right about this slow cycle and Janet Yellen doesn't turn into Paul Volcker overnight, then we probably have some time to do just what we're doing and save a lot of interest money, which will help us acquire properties in this low part of the cycle, which -- I think it will pay dividends long haul. So we're -- we get it -- I mean, you don't borrow short to loan long. But again, from where we were coming from, from no debt, this makes a lot of sense to us. And we view the next tranche of debt, which is likely to be longer term, 10-year, and hopefully with a credit rating, we do keep that debt. And again, not to retire the floating rate or revolver portion, but to help with acquisition work and to continue to grow. We've been able to acquire and grow and be accretive on our FFO per fully diluted share, even with equity offerings in the very year that we've done them and we would anticipate that continuing to be our objective. I know it's a long-winded, and I'm sorry for being long-winded, but it is the context with which we think.
John W. Guinee - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. Great summary. Let me just be a little more specific. Right now, you're at about 43% debt-to-total-enterprise value. Is that something you'll push up much higher? One. Two, if you won't and you grow, would you anticipate an equity offering? And then three, do you look at acquisitions matching dispositions, or exceeding dispositions in 2014?