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First Bank (FRBA)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Sun, Jul 30, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Kayla Baker and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the First Bank FRBA Earnings Conference Call Second Quarter 2023. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to CEO, Pat Ryan.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Thank you, Kayla and welcome, everybody, to today's second quarter 2023 First Bank earnings conference call. I am joined by Andrew Hibshman, our Chief Financial Officer; Darleen Gillespie, our Chief Retail Banking Officer; and Peter Cahill, our Chief Lending Officer. Before we begin, however Andrew will read the safe harbor statement.

Andrew Hibshman

Analyst

The following discussion may contain forward-looking statements concerning the financial condition, results of operations and business of First Bank. We caution that such statements are subject to a number of uncertainties and actual results could differ materially and therefore, you should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements we make. We may not update any forward-looking statements we make today for future events or developments. Information about risks and uncertainties are described under Item 1A, Risk Factors, in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2022, filed with the FDIC. Pat, back to you.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Overall, the big news, obviously, is the closing of the Malvern Bank acquisition in mid-July. The financial results for the quarter do not include the combined franchises but they do include some minor level of merger-related costs. The main themes from the first quarter continued into the second quarter, that being deposit pricing pressure which hurt the margin but also continued strong asset quality metrics. Here's a key summary of some of the key developments during the quarter. We had strong deposit growth, thanks to some sizable new commercial and municipal accounts. We saw continued quality C&I loan growth. As I mentioned, our asset quality remained very good with net recoveries during the quarter and very low levels of delinquency. We continue to ramp up our new C&I business units with each area meeting or exceeding our budgeted plans year-to-date. We have made, as we mentioned, people and technology investments and those investments are causing some near-term drag on earnings. Nevertheless, we achieved a return on assets of close to 100% despite these strategic investments and industry headwinds. Regarding the Malvern merger, we're very excited about the opportunity to meaningfully grow our presence in Southeastern Pennsylvania. Plus, this combination gives us unique balance sheet management options and flexibility. Specifically, the combined company should end up leaner, maybe even a little smaller but more profitable. As always, we'll be reviewing all options available related to the size and makeup of our balance sheet and we'll follow the path that will drive the best risk-adjusted profitability and shareholder value. Regarding updates on the deposit and funding side. As I mentioned, deposits grew during the quarter. We were up $158 million which is a combination of core commercial deposits as well as holding on to some wholesale funding just to support the balance…

Andrew Hibshman

Analyst

For the three months ended June 30th, 2023, we earned $6.8 million in net income or $0.35 per diluted share which translates to a 0.97% return on average assets. Excluding merger-related expenses, diluted EPS would have been $0.36 per diluted share or 0.99% return on average assets. During the quarter, we had strong deposit growth, solid loan growth, continue to improve our liquidity position, maintain strong credit quality metrics as we push forward with finalizing the Malvern Bank acquisition. The current interest rate environment and the steps we have taken to increase on-balance sheet liquidity led to a decline in our margin. In addition, the recent investments we've made in people and new locations led to increased noninterest expenses. The combination of these factors led to a decline in net income of $190,000 from the linked first quarter and a decline of $2.0 million compared to the second quarter of 2022. Solid commercial loan growth, primarily in owner-occupied and C&I lending continued in the quarter. Loans increased $44 million compared to an increase in loans of $55 million in the first quarter of 2023 which puts us right in line with our original goals for the year. Total deposits were up $158 million during the second quarter of 2023 compared to a decline in deposits of $52 million in the first quarter of 2023. We also saw somewhat of a bounce back in noninterest-bearing deposits which were up $13 million during the second quarter of 2023 compared to down $40 million during the first quarter of 2023. Primarily due to the increase in deposit costs, offset somewhat by the increase in the average rate on loans. Our tax equivalent net interest margin decreased to 3.28% for the quarter ended Q2 2023 compared to 3.52% in the previous quarter. We continue…

Darleen Gillespie

Analyst

After a challenging first quarter of deposit outflows and uncertainty in the market, I'm happy to report on strong deposit growth during the second quarter of 2023. This reflects the continued trust and confidence our value customers have in our community relation-driven financial institution. Our total deposits have increased by $106 million during the first half of 2023. The growth in deposits is proof of how we are steadfast with our strategic initiatives such as retention and expansion of our existing customer base, acquisition of new commercial and consumer clients and our deposit campaigns that help to mitigate deposit outflows while focused on building relationships in a competitive rate environment. We began the second quarter with the $44 million increase in total deposits in April. We saw an increase of $20 million in deposits in May and deposit balances were up $94 million in June. Much of the growth comes from our commercial and government portfolio. During the second quarter, we onboarded new government clients to the bank through the RFP bidding process. Although we let some high-cost money leave the banks, we still experienced the increase this quarter in our cost of deposits of 50 basis points from first quarter. Clients continue to be rate sensitive and we continue to evaluate our pricing accordingly. I will notate some of the key factors of our deposit performance. As mentioned, total deposits increased $158 million during the second quarter as a result of our continued focus on retention, expansion and acquisition deposit initiatives. This gets us back on track for our 2023 deposit growth goals. We experienced growth in our noninterest-bearing demand deposits in the second quarter despite the challenging rate environment and losses in the first quarter. This demonstrates the bank's ability to navigate challenges and capitalize on opportunities through…

Peter Cahill

Analyst

I'll try now to provide some additional information not already covered by the team. After a strong first quarter of 2023, I think we had another good one in Q2, as you just heard, loan growth was $44 million which puts us just under $100 million in growth for the six months. As I think Andrew mentioned right on plan. The second quarter mirrored the first quarter, we continue to be selective about new business. We're continuing to be focused on C&I lending. We've talked about that previously. C&I brings with it more floating interest rates on loans as well as much higher relationship deposits than you'd see in, for example, investor real estate loans. We've seen progress on increased efforts here which states back a few quarters now. Last year, for example, for all of 2022, C&I loans closed and funded were just under 50% of all new loans brought into the bank. That includes the fourth quarter of 2022, where the percentage of new loans falling to the C&I bucket rose to 70% of new loans. In Q1 of this year, C&I loans comprised 74% of all new loans closed and funded. And then this past quarter, C&I loans represented 73% of new loans closed and funded. We're happy the way our results are trending there. New loans closed and funded of all types in Q2 totaled $91 million, up slightly from $86 million in the first quarter. Gas loan payoffs were $45 million in Q2 which was an increase from $55 million, I'm sorry, $35 million in Q1 but below the average level of payoffs that we saw last year of almost $50 million per quarter. The other factor is obviously impacting net loan growth in all periods are normal term loan amortization and line of credit…

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

At this time, I think what I'd like to do is turn it back over to the operator to open things up for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Nick Cucharale with Hovde.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

With respect to the balance sheet flexibility you mentioned in the prepared remarks, I know it's very early stages, considering you disclosed the deal last week. Have you made any decisions on the path forward at this point? I'm curious if you've used the accounting treatment to restructure the securities portfolio or pay down their sub debt among other options at this time.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Yes. I think the short answer, Nick, is everything is on the table. We've taken a look at the balance sheet and prioritize it from least strategic to most strategic and the obvious path forward would be to focus on selling off assets that are viewed as less strategic and gradually work our way down the list. Now, we haven't set any specific targets for exactly how much will ultimately be sold versus retained and some of it will depend on what we view as the reasonableness of the market and the bids for things that we might consider selling. It will be a fluid process but I think the good news is we've got a number of different options available. I think that gives us the ability to really try to optimize in terms of what we keep, what we don't keep and what the combined franchise looks like going forward. Stay tuned. We hope to be in a position to have a lot of that work finalized by the end of the third quarter so that when we're back reporting plus or minus 90 days from now, there'll be a lot more visibility in terms of what that looks like.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

Then on the C&I growth which was strong again this quarter. Are there any particular niches you're targeting with this initiative? Or is it broad-based across a whole host of industries?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Yes. Well, I think within C&I, it's broad-based. As you know, Nick, we've got a couple of younger business units, not brand new but things we've been rolling out over the last 12 to 18 months that are doing well. We've got a particular focus now in terms of small micro business lending loans under $500,000 to the smallest businesses. We're continuing to see nice traction with our private equity sponsor group in terms of opportunities to finance portfolio companies within that segment. And our asset-based lending team is now fully staffed up and running and we're starting to see some traction there as well. And all of that is in addition to our core market teams which has been and continues to look for quality C&I opportunities within our, New York just still got the footprint. We got a lot of different levers in terms of business units targeting small and mid-size business opportunities. That's obviously our "bread and butter," our strategic focus. It's nice to see that we're gaining some added traction there.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

Then you noted the systems conversion in the prepared remarks, when is that scheduled to take place?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

The weekend of September 9, 10, 11, I believe, is the current schedule.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

Then lastly, with loan growth on track through midyear, can you remind us of your organic loan growth target for the full year?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

We typically target in terms of just pure core organic growth, plus or minus 200. Obviously, with round numbers of 100 and net growth so far, that puts us right on track. Listen, I think there's plenty of opportunities to get to that 200 number but I'd also tell you that probably this year more than most, being additionally selective and making sure it's the right deals with deposits, with our pricing. Our goal is doing the right business. If we end up hitting the 200 number, that's fine. If it ends up coming in less than that, we're not overly concerned.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Manuel Navas with D.A. Davidson.

Manuel Navas

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Just a follow-up on the loan growth. I understand this year could be a little bit influx. In the commentary, there's some selectivity in the pipeline. Can you just discuss demand, general demand? Is that's also, it seems like it's ticked down as well?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yes. Listen, there's certainly less activity but there's not no activity. There is still a fair amount going on. I'd say businesses and borrowers are being a little more deliberate but they certainly haven't come to a grinding halt in any sense. There's still plenty of opportunities. When you think about it in the context of net loan growth, you've got to remember the other side of the equation which is payoffs to pay down. We're almost certainly going to do less new business this year but we won't need to do as much new business to grow loans because payoffs and pay downs have slowed up as well.

Manuel Navas

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

As you get larger, do you have a sense for where that $200 million annual target could reach? This year's is influx, I hear that. Any thought on where it could be in future years?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yes. We haven't focused on that yet. We're focused right now on continuing to do good quality business but also on this balance sheet repositioning project. We still trying to figure what the size of the balance sheet is going to be at the end of the year, let alone how much we're going to grow as a percentage off of that. I think as we get larger, when we were a small quasi start-up, the loan growth was critical because we needed the revenue to cover the expenses to drive profitability. I think as we grow and as we mature, there's not going to be as much of an emphasis on driving growth rates at the levels that we saw in the past, although we're going to want to continue to do quality business. Really, the emphasis is around portfolio optimization. If we can add the right type of customers, I think we've got capacity to continue to grow with that 200 or more number. We're going to be adding the right business. Quite honestly, Manuel it's going to be somewhat driven by what can we fund with core deposits. Depending on the deposit market and what's available there, we may have the ability to grow $300 million, $400 million but we may choose not to because we don't want to have to go out and bring in high price money to do it. It's a balancing act and it's really as much art as science. There's not a specific number we're trying to hit. If we've got lots of good opportunities that we can fund with core deposits, I think we're happy growing more than 200. If the funding is an issue and/or the quality of the borrower and relationship doesn't make us feel good, then we may choose to do less than that.

Manuel Navas

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

My follow-up now is on deposits. Really strong growth there. I just wanted to follow up on two comments during the presentation. One, you have the market manager role as you, you have this renewed impetus and market concentration to get more deposits. Then it seems like you're tracking deposits to loan on a lender-specific ratio more. Can you kind of talk about where those two initiatives overlap and how much of deposits are you getting from your lenders specifically?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yes. Listen, the obvious answer is we're trying to get all hands on deck to grow quality core deposits. We've been working closely with the RMs for years to continue to drive deposit growth along with their loan portfolio and what we've seen in our review is the ratio of deposits to loans for our RMs with portfolios continues to tick up higher in many cases, close to 40%-50% which we think are pretty good levels. That's just one avenue for driving depositors. The other and other area, not the other area but another area is trying to figure out how do we get more out of the branch network. I think as Darleen mentioned, really repositioning, not necessarily adding a lot of staff but figuring out how we can reallocate staff that we have to get more people out into the market. Listen, while we all love the fact that people don't come into the branch as much as they used to. We're also taking advantage of that reality by reshuffling positions so that our staff has time to get out in the market more and spend more time attracting and developing new relationships. I think what Darleen was referring to there was really just a reallocation so that folks have more time out in the market, partly because that's what we need to grow deposits and partly because they're just not needed as much inside the branch.

Manuel Navas

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Has pricing across the second quarter and into the third quarter, has the pricing pressure shifted at all? I'm sure it's high all the time but is it a little bit less high here in June and July?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

I think a little less high is a good way to describe it. Not quite as frenetic as it was. Listen, I think part of it is a lot of banks, ourselves included, just decided post SBB signature that it was worth paying a little more to have extra liquidity. As the market calms down and as we're seeing stabilization, I think all of us are saying, "Hey, maybe I don't need to carry as much excess liquidity," and therefore, I don't need to be quite as aggressive on the deposit pricing side. I think that's part of it. Part of it is just folks are starting to feel like we're getting to the end of the rate cycle and there's not this constant expectation that rates are going to move, higher rates are going to move higher. I think that takes a tiny bit of pressure off of the pricing negotiation. Andrew, you mentioned to me that some of your conversations with folks on the wholesale side, you are starting to see a little less pressure there. You want to jump in on that point?

Andrew Hibshman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yes. It definitely seems like the market is settling down. It's still competitive for some of the wholesale funding but it definitely feels like the pricing pressure on when the Fed just moved this week, maybe we won't have to move rates on the wholesale side as much as we had in the past. It seems like things are settling down. Like you said, Pat, it's still very competitive. Rates are still a challenge but it definitely seems to be muted at least a little bit with what we've seen in the first six months of the year.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will turn it back over to Pat Ryan.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Well, thanks, everybody. Appreciate you taking the time to listen in. We certainly appreciate the questions during the Q&A. We look forward to being back in front of focus at the end of the third quarter with, I would guess, lots of updates on what we've been doing from an integration standpoint as long as well as updates on the core business. Lots to talk about and we look forward to that meeting in about 90 days. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.