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Forian Inc. (FORA)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 13, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Forian Inc. Second Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call and webcast. [Operator Instructions] Participating today from Forian are Max Wygod, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Vesey, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that management's remarks today may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by those forward-looking statements due to a variety of important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors sections of the company's annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on April 11, 2025. In particular, management will discuss an estimate of its full year 2025 revenue outlook as of today. Estimating financial performance accurately for future performance is difficult as it involves assumptions and internal estimates that may prove to be incorrect and is based on plans and circumstances that may change. There is, therefore, a significant risk that actual results could differ materially from the outlook provided today. Any forward-looking statements made on the call today represents the company's view as of this date, and the company undertakes no obligation to update them, except as required by law. Words such as estimate, projected, expect, anticipate, forecast, planned, intend, believe, seek, may, will, should, future, propose and variations of these words or similar expressions or versions of such words or expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. These statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding future growth, anticipated performance and prospects. Today's presenters will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures on our call, such as adjusted EBITDA, which the company believes may be important to investors to assess its operating performance and should be considered a supplement to and not a substitute for financial measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of the comparable GAAP metric can be found on today's press release and webcast both of which are available on the company's website. Those numbers are unaudited, and any statements regarding the company's anticipated performance may be subject to change, including as a result of risks discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on April 11, 2025. Today's call and webcast are being recorded. A copy of the recording webcast as well as the full transcript and copies of today's press release and SEC filings will be available at forian.com/investors. I am now pleased to introduce the company's Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Max Wygod. Sir, you may begin.

Max C. Wygod

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining Forian's second quarter earnings call. I will provide an overview of Forian's strong second quarter performance, highlighting year-over-year growth, margin improvement and a strategic process driven by the Kyber Data Science acquisition. I will also discuss the company's expanding data capabilities, product innovation and an update in meeting full year 2025 guidance. Forian's second quarter reflected continued strength across the organization as we achieved results that were consistent with our full year outlook. Relative to internal expectations, we are pleased with the state of our financial performance as we head into the second half of the year. Forian delivers complex health care information products and services by integrating one of the industry's largest longitudinal patient level data sets sourced from a growing network of claims, electronic health records, lab results and other real-world data streams. We use proprietary data ingestion pipelines to unify disparate multiformat data sets into the Chronos Data Lake, which tracks patient journeys for hundreds of millions of de-identified individuals. In the second quarter, we continued to see growth in delivering information products with highlights in areas such as health economics and outcomes research for life-saving therapies and the Kyber Data Science platform, which delivers alpha-generating insights for financial services clients. We have a high degree of visibility into second half performance based off of the mix of contracted backlog and renewals in our pipeline, which gives us confidence in our full year growth expectations. Generally, across our customer groups, our conversations continue to reflect a mixed spending environment in our health care and financial services end markets. While pharma companies remain cautious, driven by a rapidly changing geopolitical and macroeconomic environment, the need for analytic-ready real-world data and longitudinal information remains to help measure effectiveness, safety and value as…

Michael Vesey

Analyst

Thanks, Max. Today, I will provide an overview of Forian's financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2025. My discussion today will reference comparative results for the quarter ended June 30, 2024, unless noted otherwise. As previously noted, we completed the acquisition of Kyber Data Science on October 31, 2024. As a result, our operating results for 2025 include the operations of Kyber as of that date. The press release issued today presents Forian's financial results on a GAAP basis. As in prior quarters, we have also reported adjusted EBITDA, which management uses as a measure to track the performance of the business. As noted, the press release and these presentation materials include a detailed reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to net income or loss. Our consolidated revenues of $7.5 million were up $2.7 million or 56% compared to the same quarter last year. The impact of the Kyber acquisition contributed approximately $1.9 million or 39% to the growth, with the remaining increase resulting from organic growth in our life sciences data business. Operating income was approximately $50,000 compared to a loss of $3 million in the same quarter last year. The increase in operating income was primarily due to the aforementioned higher revenues and lower stock-based compensation, partially offset by higher expenses related to the inclusion of Kyber operations and increased data costs. Net other income decreased $0.1 million from the prior year from $0.4 million to $0.3 million due to lower interest income and expense resulting from the utilization of our cash and marketable securities balance to retire convertible notes in 2024. During 2024, we retired $17 million in principal value of our convertible notes, which were due in September 2025 for a gain, resulting in a lower interest-bearing cash and marketable securities balance in the current year.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a question from the line of Richard Baldry with ROTH Capital.

Richard Kenneth Baldry

Analyst

Congrats on the good organic growth. Can you talk about what in the second half will really be the driver of the delta between whether you hit the top or the bottom line of the guidance that you've got? Is it ramping existing contracts that you have some visibility into or newer wins? Or is there some go-get on things that are in the pipeline that still have to close?

Max C. Wygod

Analyst

Sure. Thank you, Richard. With the Kyber acquisition, the typical contract is an annual license versus the multiyear contract that we had previously with the life science part of the business. So we have a good portion of renewals that come in the back half of the year, and that has a large impact on hitting the guidance range. We feel confident, but we still have to hit those renewals.

Richard Kenneth Baldry

Analyst

Got it. Can you talk a little bit about the acquisition environment, what you're seeing out there in terms of pipeline you have to look at, realism on the sides of the sellers, valuations, just so we get an idea because even after you pay down the converts, there's still a pretty significant cash balance left, right?

Max C. Wygod

Analyst

Yes, happy to. We're seeing valuations come down from the highs that we had a year or so ago, especially the equity -- high-growth equity or venture-backed entities. A lot of companies that invested early in AI have come back down to realization besides the ones that are really leading. So we are seeing opportunities in the smaller market that makes sense with our size company. From the public valuation perspective, there's a little bit of a mix. I would say a lot of the relatively small merger or acquisition candidates still trade at a premium to us. That might be idiosyncratic to our specific volume economics of our stock. But we do see a larger willingness for companies to entertain different strategic conversations. So we are looking at both opportunities as active as we can to see something that's accretive. But it is -- sorry, it is a top topic of management, and we constantly look for the right partners or targets to make the best use of our cash.

Richard Kenneth Baldry

Analyst

And last for maybe moving back to the organic growth side of the table. Can you talk about sort of where the strengths were there that drove that number? How sustainable or extensible you view that in the second half and longer term out to '26 and beyond?

Max C. Wygod

Analyst

Sure. I mentioned a couple of things in my prepared remarks, our health economics outcomes research studies have really been a strong point for Forian. We have been able to repeatedly show that we are expert in putting together these services for the high-value areas of life sciences and pharma in particular. So we see that pipeline as growing and a high win rate, and we expect that to be one of the primary growth indicators going into 2026. Outside of that, the Kyber Data Science has been growing as we hoped it would into the financial service markets where complex questions for our hedge funds are really getting answered with really accurate models and offerings from that division. So those 2 areas are really leading our organic growth.

Richard Kenneth Baldry

Analyst

Maybe one more for me. Your second half guidance implies sort of stable top line and you just posted a pretty good adjusted EBITDA number. So sort of similar to my revenue question to start, what would be the delta between a positive $1 million versus the negative? Is it really sort of discretionary spend on strategic initiatives? Or is it whether the revenue comes in at the upper or lower end?

Max C. Wygod

Analyst

Yes. It's both. Obviously, we have strong incremental margins. But from the bottom line, if we decide to invest in more data assets, or to invest in tangential businesses that I believe can generate more revenue. The cost profile might hit the back half of this year where the revenue might be following. So that's really the largest impacts on cost. Revenue is really tied to your previous question, where if we can get the renewals as expected and hit our kind of historical go get, we should be at the top end of the range.

Richard Kenneth Baldry

Analyst

Always one last question. Can you talk about in your data engine sort of the cost side internally to sort of do the work you're doing, are you seeing -- as we're hearing from other companies that are seeing a really good ability to use some new leveraged AI technologies to get a lot more productivity from some of the more expensive sort of engineering headcounts, sort of intermediate to long term, how much do you think that can change sort of your COGS line or speed to develop new offerings, et cetera?

Max C. Wygod

Analyst

Happy to. We're currently investigating that. It is closer to our R&D line than our COGS. Our engineering using new AI agents or tools that will make them be more efficient is something that we believe all technology companies will need to embrace. I think the scrutiny of dealing with the large data that we deal with and the sensitivity around HIPAA and other areas that we really excel in has been a limiting factor in just adopting more experimental AI engines on the ingestion side. Though we do constantly look at it and do believe that we can get more output per employee using the right AI support. And then on the delivery and product side, we do see AI as being part of offerings going forward. Our first step of that is in the Kyber offering that is highly predictive using AI that cannot be matched by normal machine learning. So we're very excited for that to be our first touch into it, but it's still a small percentage of our total offering.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes our Q&A session and program for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.