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Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Tue, May 3, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the First Quarter 2016 Earnings Release Conference Call for FMC Corporation. Phone lines will be placed on listen-only mode throughout the conference. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer period. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Brian Angeli, Vice President-Investor Relations for FMC Corporation. Mr. Angeli, you may begin.

Brian P. Angeli - Vice President, Corporate Strategy and Development

Management

Thank you and good morning, everyone. Welcome to FMC Corporation's first quarter 2016 earnings call. Joining me this morning is Pierre Brondeau, President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman; and Paul Graves, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Pierre will begin the call with a review of FMC's first quarter performance and discuss the outlook for Q2 and the full year 2016. Paul will provide an overview of select financial results. The slide presentation that accompanies our results along with our earnings release and 2016 outlook statement are currently available on our website. The prepared remarks from today's discussion will be made available at the conclusion of the call. Following the prepared remarks, we will be joined by Mark Douglas, President, FMC Agricultural Solutions; Eric Norris, President, FMC Health and Nutrition; and Tom Schneberger, Vice President and Global Business Director, FMC Lithium, to address your questions. Before I turn the call over to Pierre, let me remind you that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties concerning specific factors, including, but not limited to, those factors identified in our earnings release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Information presented represents our best judgment based on today's information. Actual results may vary based on upon these risks and uncertainties. Today's discussion will focus on adjusted earnings for all income statement and EPS references, and pro forma revenue and segment earnings for FMC Agricultural Solutions. A reconciliation and definition of these terms as well as other non-GAAP financial terms to which we may refer during today's conference call are provided on our website. With that, I will now turn the call over to Pierre Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Brian, and good morning, everyone.…

Operator

Operator

. And the first question comes from Christopher Parkinson with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Christopher S. Parkinson - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Perfect. Thank you very much. You mentioned in your presentation that Central and Eastern Europe were showing solid demands, but can you comment on the pricing landscape given the FX headwinds there as well and whether or not you were able to offset that? And then also on the demand front, do you believe the growth was simply driven by the market, or do you believe there's any benefit from adding the FMC portfolio to the legacy Cheminova one in the region? Thank you. Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: I think on the Central, Eastern Europe, the pricing is pretty stable and you know, it's not a very, very large market, interesting for us because there is a strong possibility to increase volume. But pricing is quite stable. And I think definitely, the growth is one of the place where FMC had no structure in Central and Eastern Europe where it was an area of focus for Cheminova. So definitely a place where using the infrastructure and commercial organization from Cheminova and bringing in the product portfolio for FMC is going to create some significant possibilities (41:21) for us. Christopher S. Parkinson - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Perfect. And just kind of a tangent question to that one, given the progression of cost savings with Cheminova, it's clearly going well, can you just comment on the other geographies as far as intermediate to long-term revenue synergy opportunities inclusive of the US and then also in Latin America with Argentina in particular? Thank you.

Mark A. Douglas - President-FMC Agricultural Solutions

Analyst

Yeah, Chris, this is Mark. We've talked about North America in the past and in the US, we are seeing very good synergies with the fungicide portfolio from Cheminova going through our distribution network. In Latin America, obviously Brazil in the south, we're seeing increased sales through co-ops where we've made decisions which co-ops and which distribution network we'll go through. Argentina is certainly very beneficial for us. Obviously we have a bigger footprint there now. We have the right products for the soy market, so we're expecting to see growth in Argentina. And then in other parts of Latin America, I would say, obviously Mexico, Columbia, are two countries that we are focused on and we are seeing very good synergies in Colombia on these crops. Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: And I think when we did the last earnings call, as well as multiple discussions we all had, we've been talking about the share getting to $100 million -- $50 million to $100 million run rate in between the synergies and the new products and very much on very much on track with that. So it is a place, I think the opportunities created by Cheminova from a cost saving and the revenue synergies are very much in line with what we're expecting.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Frank Mitsch with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, gentlemen and nice start to the year. Pierre when you were talking about the Ag business, you were talking about some positives with respect to, glad to say, resistance in terms of providing a boost, so I was wondering if there was a way for you to kind of quantify it and in terms of where you see that -- where you see that over the next 18 months or so. And then, what sort of concerns may you have about some new technologies that Monsanto and others are rolling out in that area?

Mark A. Douglas - President-FMC Agricultural Solutions

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Yeah, Frank, it's Mark. I think for us when we look at Glyphosate resistance, we are really talking about the US, Argentina as the two big markets. I think you know that through our Authority brands based upon sulfentrazone, we've had great success in the pre-emergent area in both those countries. I expect that to continue. There will be some headwinds with new technologies coming in. But I think to offset that, we still see more weeds getting resistance to glyphosate and more acres increasing especially in Argentina. It wouldn't surprise me if we don't start to see that in the next few years start to develop in Brazil as well and we are already positioning our brands in Brazilian soy for that area.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Okay. That's very helpful. And as you think about some of the combinations coming -- some of the major combinations in the Ag chem world coming over the next 12 months or less, how do you see yourselves perhaps participating in picking up some pieces there, what's the interest level -- talk about your participation in industry consolidation here? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, Frank, as you know, we made a move which was in line with what was our strategic intent by acquiring Cheminova. We have now a stable situation from a structural standpoint in Ag. We're finishing up on the integration. What we intend to do at this stage is watch what is happening specifically in places when two Ag companies are coming together. So every time there will be consolidation of that companies, if at any point during this process there is, because of anti-trust reason, product which are made available, that is something we are usually very good at doing which is taking a product and commercializing that with our own sales organization. So, we're going to be opportunistic, but it's certainly something we will be able to afford to do and would be very interested in doing. Beyond that, do not expect us making any major move in acquiring any type of company, it will be an acquisition of technology and product.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Jester with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Daniel Jester - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Maybe a couple of questions on Lithium. Price mix was a 4% benefit in the quarter. But by some kind of spot measures lithium prices were much higher. So can you just kind of elaborate as to how we should be thinking about pricing, kind of commodity versus your specialty end markets and spot sales versus the contract market as we continue throughout the year? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, if you think about our Lithium business, look at strategic price increase in place where we are technologically advantaged in grain markets where we have significant contracts which are renewed every year like in lithium hydroxide. And then think about on the chloride and carbonate side for what is not used for internal purpose or sold in the contract, we are using the spot market to do one off price increase. We believe that situation is going to carry-on for the next few quarters. I think the market will remain tight which will allow us to, to use the spot market in the more commodity businesses like chloride and carbonate to increase price on a spot basis. And where we have opportunities where people need our technology or product, we will be increasing price on contracts when contracts are being renewed. So it is a situation which we see fairly, fairly stable for the future. If you look at our increase in gallons for the Lithium business, most of it is going to, of the over performance, will be due to pricing.

Daniel Jester - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst · Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then just sticking with Lithium, you commented that you think the outlook is going to be tight in the near to medium term, can you just flush out a little bit about what your expectations are for supply additions over the coming years? Thank you. Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well I cannot comment too much beyond what all of you know on the lithium carbonate side because that's a decision of the people who have announced capacity increase. I'm sure (48:57), when they talk on their earnings we'll be able to tell more about the timing. But we believe (49:04). And we believe also some Chinese or Australian company will be bringing carbonate capacity in the next couple of years. We ourselves are focused more on the downstream and we will bring in time and we'll bring more detail in the weeks to come. But we'll be focusing more on increasing lithium hydroxide capacity as we need.

Operator

Operator

And next we will go with Mike Harrison of Seaport Global. Please go ahead.

Michael Joseph Harrison - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning.

Michael Joseph Harrison - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Pierre, if we could just continue on the Lithium front. I guess I was just surprised to see that you put up a $15 million quarter in Lithium and your guidance is only calling for $43 million to $53 million for the full year. What's going to change during the remainder of the year that would suggest that earnings could be lower than the Q1 level as we get through the rest of the year? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: I will ask for Tom to comment with me. But, as we said in the script, remember there is seasons in term of manufacturing in lithium and we are getting into a period where -- which is the winter part of the season and we're going to have more rain and more snow and conditions which are going to limit more to some extent, our production of carbonates. So, what we're expecting in the next three quarters is less carbonate available because of our manufacturing, like most people operating in this part of the world, in the next couple of quarters. On the positive side, our costs continue to be good and our pricing will be positive. So it's a differential between all of this which creates maybe a little bit less of an over performance in the remaining three quarters than we have in the first-quarter. I don't know if you want to anything, Tom, to this? Thomas Schneberger - VP & Global Business Director-Lithium Division: Yeah, I think if you look historically at the earnings, the seasonality has been there. We are doing what we can to reduce volatility, but that seasonality is going to remain where the first quarter and fourth quarter give us the most volume and flexibility on the mix we can sell.

Michael Joseph Harrison - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

And then, as I think about some of the lithium carbonate that you're actually purchasing to convert to hydroxide, are you experiencing higher raw material costs for that, or do you have lower prices locked in for the year, and you're actually getting a margin benefit for some of that raw material you're purchasing? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yes, we first, as you know, most of the carbonate, by a long shot, we use is produced by us. So what we are buying under contract today versus the rest of the overall usage is incremental and what we are buying is locked under a long-term supply agreement. So we are not facing significant price increase in carbonate. If it plays the way we expect it to play, and once again it's going to have to be confirmed, but the way we look at it is, for now, we are producing enough carbonate and buying enough to run our strategy around chloride, butyllithium, metal and hydroxide. And as time will go, we're going to have to sell more hydroxide. We're going to have to increase our capacity in hydroxide and we'll have to buy more of carbonate on the actual market, which should be at a time when our peer company will be increasing capacity and making the product more available in the market. So, it looks like all of this is falling in place quite well. Tom, you want to add something? Thomas Schneberger - VP & Global Business Director-Lithium Division: Yeah, thanks for the question. Pierre has it down well. The other thing that we look at always is the incremental things we can do in Argentina, and there are small opportunities for small capital to increase our throughput in Argentina, which gives us some flexibility as we go forward? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: So right now, I would say there is no major issue around potential increase in the future of our cost in term of our ability to execute a strategy around carbonate and hydroxide.

Operator

Operator

Next we'll go to the line of Mike Sison with KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Michael J. Sison - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Hey, guys nice start to the year. Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Hi.

Michael J. Sison - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Pierre, when used think about – you didn't change your outlook for crop protection markets this year. I understand it's still difficult out there, but it does sound like you're feeling better about the integration and maybe the long-term potential. Can you maybe map out where Ag Solutions op income can go over time as hopefully things recover? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah let me – I'll tell you the way we look at Ag Solutions right now. First let me talk about the Ag market as we see it for this year. I think we are not changing our view for 2016. We still believe it's a mid to high single digit down market mostly driven by North America and Brazil within the high teens. And maybe Asia and Europe to the low – sorry – in the high single-digit while Europe and Asia would be in the low to mid-single-digit decrease. So, we are not changing our view. It could be maybe turning more toward the high single-digit overall global market. The way – and why do I feel better about the way we are operating in the Ag market, it is not because we are seeing a fundamental change in the market in the short-term. But what I think we are doing at FMC, I think the key difference is that we know better how to operate in this type of market. I can tell you, you see it on our numbers, we are not fighting to keep market share on sales of product. We are much more looking at three type of objectives. First, it's very important for us and focusing only on FMC product is to decrease FMC product in the channels. The second aspect is we want to…

Michael J. Sison - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then, Paul, just a quick one. I thought you said at the current levels where the real is at, that it, is it going to be a negative this year or is it a positive? I just wanted to make sure I understood your commentary around foreign currency there. Paul W. Graves - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President: That's the million-dollar question with the reai. I mean, the truth is that the stability or the predictability in the movement of the new reai is really what matters to us. We've talked about it in the past with regard to the timing of changes and the pace of changes. Q1 and Q2 just aren't really periods in which we have a lot of commercial activity going on in Brazil. So it's really what it does in Q3. And, again, it isn't so much the level. We've shown that in Q1 where with an average rate of 3.9 – today, it's closer to 3.5 – we were able to still capture pricing on the limited number of sales that we have in Q1. The question will come into Q3, how stable, how predictable is the reai. In the rest of the world, I mean, you look at the forward curve on the currency, it does not feel like a strengthening dollar is what the market is expecting. And so that generally speaking is what's factored into our numbers – relative predictably, not a big strengthening of the dollar around the world. Q1 feels like – when you look at where the dollar is today compared to a year ago, Q1 feels like the last of the quarters that we have those tough FX comps. So subject to any changes away from where the market expects today, it doesn't feel like currency will be quite the high level story that it was last year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Joel Jackson with BMO. Please go ahead.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good morning. You have really guided up your operating cash flow projections for the year by $50 million but raised your EBIT projections by about $10 million. Can you give us a sense of where the big delta is coming in the operating cash flow? Is it really an improvement in working capital? Paul W. Graves - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President: Sure. It's a pretty straightforward story. We clearly have an increased expectation around EBITDA, but the truth is it's largely around working capital. And you have to bear in mind that if you look over the last few years -- two years ago we had a terrible performance with working capital with largely cash outflow. Last year we turned the corner and sort of stopped the bleeding and improved it slightly but this year we expect that trend to continue so that working capital becomes a positive generator of cash for us. Our biggest focus is always going to be the Brazil receivables balance and getting that receivables balance down. But we're also very, very focused on inventory levels, our own inventory levels and making sure that we are very efficient and very thoughtful about what inventory we hold, where we hold it and how much of it we hold. So it's coming in multiple different areas, but you really should be looking at working capital as the primary driver of the increase in cash flow for 2016.

Joel Jackson - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst · BMO. Please go ahead.

Okay, I'm sorry if this was asked already, but – in terms of synergies from Cheminova, $60 million to $70 million for the year, do you still maintain that and maybe give us how much more you think you can still get in 2017 versus your prior guidance? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: I have a terrible time with... Paul W. Graves - Chief Financial Officer & Executive Vice President: ...synergies in 2016, $60 million to $70 million still our guidance and how much more were we anticipating. Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yes we are not changing the -- actually we still have the same numbers, so the numbers we've been talking about $60 million, $70 million are very well in line and a full run rate of $140 million to $160 million getting into the middle of next year are also still the target. So there is no change in our numbers right now.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steve Byrne with BoA. Please go ahead.

Stephen Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · BoA. Please go ahead.

Hi, Thank you. In the U.S. crop protection market are you seeing any increased discounting or bundling by your competitors? And do you see any risk of perhaps maybe losing some shelf space in the retail channel from allowing your product inventories to be trimmed? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: You know, I think whenever you talk about terms and pricing, we want to be highly cautious and slowly comment about we do. Our strategy today is quite, is quite simple. We are highly focused on maintaining our pricing at a healthy level. We are very vigilant on terms, as you know balance sheet is always a key challenge for a company like us. And more than ever we are highly disciplined on terms and not giving terms. What it means for us and only talking for FMC, what it means for us is certainly we are prepared to see timing change in our sales and that's what I've been talking about. We're not being willing to do anything to push product in the market if there is not a complete need from this product -- for this product by the market. You know, space shelf is a word we use a lot, but when you have technical product to be sold, those products you know they are needed. And then you have commercial contract with customers. So it is not a situation where because we are aligning ourselves with the market demand, that we are taking an enormous risk to see somebody taking our shelf space by the end of the year and us not being able to sell our product. For example, Mark talked about our Authority product line. It's a pre-emergent product. It's required – needs to be bought in Q4 and Q1. We know this product will be sold. So I think our strategy might be a bit differentiated but we are only focusing on ours along the line of what we discussed before.

Stephen Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · BoA. Please go ahead.

And Pierre, considering your comment about Authority, would you say that the outlook for eventual penetration of the Xtend and the Enlist soybean products, does that – is that a risk to your Authority franchise within the Americas or could you see that as potentially an opportunity where you might expand your herbicide franchise and move more over-the-top. And bring in formulations with either 2,4-D and Dicamba?

Mark A. Douglas - President-FMC Agricultural Solutions

Analyst · BoA. Please go ahead.

Yeah, Steve, this is Mark. You know we talked about it earlier, I got a question earlier about whether we thought it would be a headwind or a tailwind. I think in the initial stages, I expect rates to be reduced. Good news is we know with Enlist and Xtend that there will still be recommend in the use of pre-emergent herbicides of which Authority is one of the market leaders. So we know we are going to have a substantial market there. I would say weed-resistant acres continue to grow, so we're going to see that pre-emergent continuing, certainly in the U.S. and as I said earlier, in Argentina. I think from an over-the-top perspective, I mean we have some very good products that we're going to be promoting such as our Cadet herbicide which we think will be a great tank mix partner for those products and really offer a broader spectrum of control. Don't expect to see as us in 2,4-D and Dicamba, that's just not the sort the business we're going to be in. We're going to be in the more differentiated products, more highly specialized where we can bring value to the growers and distribution.

Operator

Operator

Next we will go to the line of Mark Connelly with CLSA. Please go ahead.

Mark Connelly - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Thanks. Pierre the trend among food companies to reformulate to simplify is clearly getting faster, how much is that reformulation trend actually helping you do you think? And do you think about it as a tailwind? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: You know, I think the food market for us, there is an acceleration of – the way we look at our market in Nutrition and in Health, are interesting. In Health, the good news is when you are with a customer, you are there for a while because you're not being reformulated out easily. The problem with that is it's not easy to gain new business. Well, the same applied to food but the reverse. I think there is a trend to reformulate, change formulation. There is a very fast cycle which gives opportunities for us. So the stronger we are with our product, the more opportunities. But by the same token also it opens the door for new product and competitors. So I would say today, it could be slightly a tailwind knowing that we are maybe the largest market shareholder and maybe the complete product line. But I don't see that as a major change from the past. Eric, you want to add some comment to that? Eric W. Norris - President-Health & Nutrition: I would say we see it as a tread, this is, Eric, Mark, Eric Norris. I see it as a trend, we see it as a trend like many others that have come and go in the industry. The industry is very fad based. So to Pierre's point, unlike the health markets where there's very little change over periods of time, there is a great deal of change from every two or three years, whether it's low-fat, Atkins and now this simplification, clean label phenomenon. It really does come down to the breath of product line we have, the fact that they are well-suited to being all naturally-based. And then having the applications capability to respond to them in the right places around the world, having the spread of knowledge in the right places near customers. So, we're well-positioned for it. Anytime there's a reformulation, there's a challenge, right? So, it does create an effort on our part to respond. Going forward we see it as a tailwind though for us, given the breadth of our product line and application capabilities.

Mark Connelly - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Eric, in Pierre's comments you talked about product differentiation, can you talk about how you think about product differentiation. Eric W. Norris - President-Health & Nutrition: In specifically in the food market?

Mark Connelly - CLSA Americas LLC

Analyst

Sure yeah. Eric W. Norris - President-Health & Nutrition: Yeah. It comes down to understanding very well not only what's going on with your direct cost customer, the large food or small food company, but with consumers and then being able to put together a formulation that meets the need. So, product differentiation for us is less about proprietary technology, intellectual property, such as a patent that might drive more what happens in our Ag business. It's more about the know-how of being able to put some, of ingredients together that meets a specific need and understanding either color, texture, and or taste issues that might impact the success of that brand. So, it really comes down to the differentiation around the application and the ingredients we bring as opposed to a proprietary ingredient in the food product itself.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from line of Brett Wong with Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead. Brett W. S. Wong - Piper Jaffray & Co. (Broker): Hi guys thanks for fitting me in here at the end. Pierre, you were talking about kind of the overall crop market and the focus that FMC is going to have in terms of working inventory down and being disciplined on price and terms. So, I just want to get a clarification, so if others, or other competitors are not acting rationally and pushing product into the market when the product doesn't need it as you were saying, FMC is not going to be participating in that kind of activity? Pierre R. Brondeau - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Listen, I don't know what strategy our competitors are operating around. Their own market push of product discount. In our rationale, they tend to be, I think what we have made as a decision, and that's a decision we've made globally. We believe we're in a situation where the markets are such and the level of inventory in the channel are such, that you can't guide your activity by what the others are doing. I think we have a plan in place. We are working very, very closely in cooperation with our customers who understand our strategy. We're not going to sell in Q1, or Q2 or Q3 a product which is needed in Q4. And it makes sense, we maintain a healthy pricing and term situation. And that's what we're going to be focusing -- I believe what we're going to do during this downturn, and until these turns around is, we are not going to work hoping that the overall level of inventory in the market channel is going to go down. I…

Operator

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of Aleksey Yefremov with Nomura Securities. Please go ahead. Aleksey, your line is open. I guess he didn't have a question anymore. That was our last question. Please go ahead.

Brian P. Angeli - Vice President, Corporate Strategy and Development

Management

Okay. Well, that's all the time we have for the call today. I want to thank everyone for joining. I'll be available for the rest of the day to go through any additional questions. Again, thank you. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

And that is all the time we have for today. This concludes FMC Corporation First Quarter 2016 Earnings Release Conference Call. Thank you.