David Constable
Management
Yes. Thanks for the question, Andy. All those prospects I ran through with Steven a little earlier, those were all reimbursable projects I mentioned. And we’ve won GMAX, but again, that's GMAX in ATLS data centers where we closed the books very late in the game, and the risk is very low. So, we're comfortable with that type of contracts where it's a reimbursable contract up to a maximum, and we share in the under-run. So, talking to customers, it's been very encouraging. I think, the first thing is, they're relieved and grateful that we're staying in the EPC business, and being a leader in engineering construction for them around the -- for all our customers around the world. We've got really good feedback from that standpoint. And they also agree that for us to stay in that -- in the game, it's got a balance and fair terms. So, those discussions have been going well in all the different business segments. And so, again, as you know, we'll chase -- go after infrastructure work when we're comfortable. And we've got a track record on those road and bridge -- regional road and bridge projects, and then be very selective, very, very selective with the stringent pursuit criteria in, for example, Energy Solutions, where we know the customer, and we negotiate risks that are appropriate. But, having been on the other side of the fence as a customer and having to take multiple FIDs on multibillion-dollar projects in the oil-gas downstream and petrochemicals marketplace, I may have heart-to-heart discussions because I've been in their shoes. And what you -- we're talking about driving to -- after you get safety and quality and fit for purpose blind out in your scope, the next thing you look at when you take FID and get your internal rate returns as high as possible is this project cost and project schedule. So, talking to customers about driving to the lowest project life cycle cost gets their attention, obviously. And the way to do that is to share risk appropriately and not put massive amounts of coverage on the contractor side of the fence and pay more for your project than you really need to. So, we're having really good discussions, Andy.