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Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO)

Q3 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 28, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Kelly and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fair Isaac Corporation Quarterly Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Thank you. Steve Weber, you may begin your conference. Steven P. Weber - Vice President, Treasurer & Investor Relations: Thank you. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining FICO's third quarter earnings call. I am Steve Weber, Vice President of Investor Relations, and I'm joined today by our CEO, Will Lansing; and our CFO, Mike Pung. Today, we issued a press release that describes financial results compared to the prior year. On this call, management will also discuss results in comparison to the prior quarter in order to facilitate understanding of the run rate of our business. Certain statements made in this presentation may be characterized as forward-looking under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements involve many uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Information concerning these uncertainties is contained in the company's filings with the SEC, in particular, in the Risk Factors and Forward-Looking Statements portions of such filings. Copies are available from the SEC, from the FICO website, or from our Investor Relations team. This call will also include statements regarding certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the company's earnings release and Regulation G schedule issued today for a reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measure. The earnings release and Regulation G schedule are available on the Investor Relations page of the company's website at fico.com or on the SEC's website at sec.gov. A replay of this webcast will be available through July 28, 2017. With that, I'll turn the call over to Will Lansing.

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Thanks, Steve, and thank you, everyone, for joining us for our third quarter earnings call. I'll briefly summarize our financial results for this quarter, and then I'll discuss the progress we're making on our strategic initiatives. In our third quarter, we reported revenues of $239 million, the highest single quarter in company history, up 14% from the same period last year. We delivered $35 million of GAAP net income or $1.08 per share, both up 76% from the prior year. We delivered $47 million of non-GAAP net income and non-GAAP EPS of $1.45 per share, both increasing 45% from the same period last year. We continue our strong cash generation with $78 million of free cash flow this quarter. Most importantly, we had strong quarter across the board, with growth in each of our segments. Our Scores segment delivered $61 million of revenue this quarter, an increase of 10% over the same period last year. Our Applications segment revenue of $142 million was an increase of 11% over the same period last year. Finally, our Tools segment, which includes our Decision Management Suite, delivered a record $36 million, up 36% from last year. Much of the growth this quarter came from an exceptionally large number of license deals, but we also continue to add to a recurring revenue base. We've made tremendous progress on our strategic initiatives and we're starting to see the results of our hard work. Our B2B Scores business continues its healthy growth. Volumes are up across all life cycles and revenues are up 11% year-over-year. FICO Score use among lenders is as strong as ever and increase volumes prove that financial institutions rely on the Score to find new customers, as well as manage and monitor risk. We are also continuing to make progress with our…

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Thanks, Mike. Next quarter, we'll talk about our expectations for 2017, but for now I'd like to step back and summarize our strategy. In Scores, we're looking to extend our B2B leadership and brand value into the consumer market. At the same time, we're pursuing innovations such as FICO Score XD to open new markets with financial services institutions. In Applications, we've developed cloud-enabled versions of our products, while expanding sales coverage and productivity to reach new markets. And in our Tools business, we've invested in our Decision Management Suite to provide a simple cost-effective method for customers of any size to develop and deploy analytics. At the same time, we're very focused on making appropriate investments throughout the portfolio and using excess cash for share repurchases and M&A. So far, we've been happy with the results, and I firmly believe that we have the management team in place to succeed in the months and the years ahead. I'll now turn the call back to Steve so we can do questions-and-answers. Steven P. Weber - Vice President, Treasurer & Investor Relations: Thanks, Will. This concludes our prepared remarks and we're ready now to take any questions you may have. Operator, please open the line.

Operator

Operator

Our first question comes from the line of Brett Huff from Stephens. Your line is open.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

Good afternoon, guys. Congrats on a nice quarter.

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Thank you.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

Just wanted to ask if you could characterize a little bit more some of the big license wins. It looks like it came in both in Tools and in Applications. And then maybe more specifically, were any of those a continuation of the DMS win from last quarter or was there a new DMS win in there? Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: So, Brett, this is Mike. So you're right. We had two large renewals on the Applications section for our Falcon Fraud product. One of the two new renewals had additional services, additional licenses associated with it, and the other was a straight renewal. In the Tools business, we actually had a large Blaze renewal that drove a lot of that increase. That one also came along with an up-sell.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then just given that the guidance didn't go up on revenue, did some of this just happen earlier maybe than we on the Street had modeled them or was this incremental in any way and is there just sort of conservatism in the rev guidance? Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: No, I think your first point is right. I mean as we all know, it's hard to determine what period a license occurs, including renewals. Sometimes they happen a little earlier, sometimes they happen a little later. And what we saw this quarter is some nice big renewals, some of which earlier than what we had expected. So I think what people were modeling in the fourth quarter likely happened in the third quarter, and probably the reverse is true.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then last question, and I'll get back in the queue. Could you just comment on DMS progress? How the win from last quarter is going? And then if you did have a chance to close additional ones of those or how the pipeline is looking? Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Yes, so the deal we closed last quarter were in the implementation cycle right now for a large customer. That will happen as we described last quarter through the fall and into the end of the calendar year when the expected go-live will happen. The project is going great. It's on track. Things are moving along very well. In terms of the rest of the DMS in the cloud business, we're also seeing continued progress being made very positively. The revenue year-to-date in cloud is up 12% year-to-date. Bookings, about 30% of our year-to-date bookings are related to the cloud, much of which is DMS. And so, the progress is coming along nicely, probably never fast enough, but very nice at that.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

Great; that's what I need. I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line Bill Warmington from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Hi, Bill.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

So, congratulations on a strong quarter, I'll say. Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Thank you.

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Thanks.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

So, a couple questions for you. One is just to ask about how things are going in the affinity market. You had mentioned the Progrexion deal whether – and then to ask whether there's revenue being generated from that. And then also, if you could talk about how the pipeline of opportunities looks in that space now.

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

The Progrexion deal will unfold in the course of the year. So it's started, but the full impact won't be felt until later on, but that's going very smoothly. Our efforts in the affinity space continue and we're in discussions. I would say that in general, the whole affinity business, as you know, has gone more slowly than we expected. We thought that it would have a much more steep ramp in 2016 then it's had. Some of that I think is related to just kind of slow adoption, but sounds likes it's also that the market is evolving in different kind of ways. And I think that our Scores people are coming up with some innovative programs that complement some of things that are place now that – I hate to call them a substitute for affinity, but there are different kinds of programs and they represent different directions that the affinity business has gone. So I think you're still going to see FICO Scores in the center of all this. It may not all lined up in the affinity business as we originally envisioned it.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Yeah. These transactions – there's been speculation that a large deal would be somewhere in the $40 million in revenue arena, maybe netting out $8 million in EBITDA. Is that about the level to think about for these types of deals or is it just -

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

I think it depends on whether we're the general contractor or whether we're just supplying FICO Scores to someone else who does it. I think that the economics that you just described would represent a large deal, if we were the GC. I do think that we favor working through partners and where there is others, for example, Experian, who can do a good job on offering the service, we're happy to partner with them, provide our Scores and value add that way. And obviously, at that point, it's much smaller revenue, but much higher margin. (20:47) Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: I'm sorry, Bill. In fact, today, in Will's prepared comments that he made reference to the fact that we did sign our first affinity partner today through Experian. So we did sign an affinity deal. We're a provider of the FICO Score to Experian and their servicing that deal. It's rather small for us on, but it was the first and a good proof point.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Excellent. And then there's been a lot of talk about trended data and I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the new product that you guys are coming out with on the trended data side in the auto space with TransUnion. Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Yeah. We're making progress with TransUnion. We announced that deal last quarter. We're working with them to bring it into the marketplace. And beyond that, I really don't have anything new to discuss around that. We've been involved with or in discussions with each of the bureaus and a variety of ways on their trended data initiatives. But for us, it frankly isn't as big of a driver as some of the other activities we have going on.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Got it. Thank you very much. I'll get back in the queue. Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Great.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from line Robert Mattson from Dougherty Markets. Your line is open. Robert Mattson - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Great. Thank you and congrats on the quarter as well. I wanted to circle up in a couple things. One is kind of an admin thing. I missed that number you said that the high end of the guidance would require on license? Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: It would require about $28 million of license revenue to hit our high end in the guidance range. Robert Mattson - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Okay. I wanted to circle up with the Decision Management. You got 2.0 out now. A lot of – historically, a lot of enterprise is a little hesitant to do a 1.0 until 2.0 comes out. Have you seen a change in the discussion, a willingness of people now to engage around Decision or has this not really changed and things are cruising along?

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

No, things are going very smoothly with a lot of customer interest in Decision Management Suite and actually, we're at work on 3.0 and the move from 2.0 to 3.0 is very fluid and easy. And so although you're right that customers are reluctant to be the guinea pigs on a 1.0, we're well past that. We have DMS deployed in a lot of places now. It's working really well. We have happy customers. And so we're kind of through all that early pains. Robert Mattson - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Okay. And outside if you could talk a little bit about additional traction outside of your core markets on the Decision Management Suite? Any – I don't know whether you want to talk about in terms of pilots or whatever color you can give on how you're getting traction outside there?

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Well, last quarter, we did this big telecom deal, which would be outside of kind of our core markets. But frankly, telecom is becoming a core market because we have a lot of telecom customers. So we continue to be heavily focused on financial services. I think that's the reality, but it is the case that our stuff works elsewhere, we're getting interest from other verticals. I think there's more rapid adoption outside of financial services of cloud-based solutions. So what we're seeing is a disproportionate cloud mix when you go outside of financial services. That would be one difference. Robert Mattson - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Okay. And then I guess the last question more of a ad hoc question. Any update on the progress in terms of continuing to hire sales people?

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Oh, yeah. Well, we're continuing to pound away at it and we're happy with our efforts. I would say that never enough. So we still have open head count. We're still hiring and we'll hire every talented salesperson that we can find. But as you know we obviously hold these candidates to a very high standard and so it never goes fast enough, but yes, continued progress. Robert Mattson - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Thank you and congrats again.

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Adam Klauber with William Blair. Your line is open. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Thanks. Good afternoon. Just a couple of follow-up. In Applications, you mentioned that Falcon had a pretty good renewal and then an upgrade. Could you just give us a flavor or what's the nature of the upgrade? Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Yes. The nature of the upgrade is we have a variety of broad related products that go along with the Falcon product. There are additional analytic models and additional analytic technologies. And we had a client, a very large non-U.S. client, renew their Falcon platform. And in the process of doing the renewal, they purchased some additional technology that complemented Falcon. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay. I guess that up-sell is that newer technology or is that just core product that they haven't been using before? Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: It's a newer version of core product that they hadn't been using before. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay. Okay. That's helpful. Then you mentioned cyber, your cyber security offering, and I realize that's new, but can you give us an idea of what we could look for next year to see if that effort is ramping up?

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

Sure. So we're quite serious about our cyber security initiative. What we have is an opportunity to take our really fabulous Falcon Fraud IP and apply it in the cyber security space. And so where we had little missing pieces, we went out and bought QuadMetrics. But I would say that it's a pretty nascent effort. The product is coming along very rapidly. We announced the enterprise security score and we ought to be in a position to be selling it by the end of the year. But I think that realistically it's going to be small dollars and in the greater scheme of things in 2017, only because it take a while to ramp a specialized sales force and to get traction, but the product'll be ready and will be in the marketplace, and it's just going to take a while to get recognition. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay, okay. That's helpful. And then finally on capital – cash, capitalization utilization, as the stock price has clearly done well in the last six months or so, does that change your view on buying back stock?

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

No, not at all. I mean, you could have made that comment every quarter for the last 20 quarters and it would've been true that the stock price had done well and you could be questioning whether it would make sense for us to keep buying back our stock at these levels. So far it's been a winning bet for us and we remain as optimistic about our future as ever. And every time we think about alternate uses of cash, when we measure them against investing in our own business, we really love our own prospects. And so we wind up coming down over and over and over in favor of stock purchase over M&A. That's not say we never would do it, but so far the stock repurchase really looks great. I guess a corollary to that embedded in your question is a little bit of a question around market timing. We're not market timers. We can't really speak to whether the overall market is frothy and will continue or will it get the correction. You guys are in that business, we're not. But we feel strongly that our business is strong today and it's going to be better in the future. And so we think it's a good use of cash to keep buying back our own stock. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay. And then actually one final follow-up. You obviously had a strong quarter all around, but particularly your net – your free cash really jumped up. Should – I mean it's much, much higher level. Is that just reflecting a lot of the momentum in the quarter or is that continual (28:51)

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

It's a couple of things. Yeah, I wouldn't multiply it by four, put it that way. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Right. Yeah.

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

But the contributing factors are, one, yes, the strong license revenue had an effect. And two, we had improvement in DSO. So, those two things were the things that gave us the outstanding result this quarter. So, I wouldn't expect that that would be that kind of strong in the future. Adam Klauber - William Blair & Co. LLC: Okay, okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

So one follow-up for you. Just wanted to make sure to ask about the Discover opportunity that you announced last quarter. Just ask how that's ramping? When – have you started to generate revenue from it? If not, what do you think the timeline is likely to be?

William J. Lansing - Chief Executive Officer

Management

We're super excited about this. So the program, just to be clear what it is, Discover Scorecard, is a Discover driven website where consumers, both Discover customers and non-customers, can come and get their FICO Score. And then, Discover obviously works through that, making credit offers. And so it's a prospecting kind of an opportunity. That's kind of a new space for us. We haven't really used our FICO Scores for any kind of lead gen or prospecting in the past, not this directly. And so this is a new opportunity. We're very excited about doing it with Discover. They leaned into it with radio advertising and with television advertising. We're very happy about the messaging in the program, because they are focused on, among other things, pointing out the differences between a genuine FICO Score and the other scores that lenders don't actually use for making lending decisions. So, Discover has some uniqueness in their offering. It's too early to speak about the results and I wouldn't be in a position to do it. It would be for Discover to discuss that. But early returns are good and we're happy.

William A. Warmington - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Got it. All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back over to presenters. Michael J. Pung - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President & Investor Relations: Thank you. Now this concludes our call for today. Thank you all for your interest and joining. And we will see you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.