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Flushing Financial Corporation (FFIC)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, Jan 28, 2022

$16.25

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Flushing Financial Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Hosting the call today are John Buran, President and Chief Executive Officer; Susan Cullen, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer; and Mike Bingold, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Retail and Client Development Officer. Today's call is being recorded. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. . A copy of the earnings press release and slide presentation that the company will be referencing today are available on its Investor Relations website at flushingbank.com. Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that discussions during this call contain forward-looking statements made under the Safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any such statements, including as set forth in the company's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, to which we will refer. During this call, references will be made to non - GAAP financial measures as supplemental measures to review and assess operating performance. These non - GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered an isolation or as a substitute for the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with U.S. GAAP. For information about these non - GAAP measures and for a reconciliation to GAAP, please refer to the earnings release and or the presentation. I'd now like to introduce John Buran, President and Chief Executive Officer, who will provide an overview of the strategy and results. Please go ahead.

John Buran

Management

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us at our fourth-quarter and FY2021 earnings call. On today's call, I'll discuss fourth-quarter earnings and ongoing strategic objectives before turning the call over to Mark Fitzgibbon Chief Retail and client development officer and Susan Cullen, Chief Financial Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we will answer your questions. There are two main items I want to talk to you about today. First, a review of our record earnings for 2021 and second, the outlook for 2022. For the fourth quarter, GAAP and Core return on average assets increased 71 and 12 basis points year-over-year respectively. And GAAP and core return on average equity increased 850 and 82 basis points respectively. The net interest margin improved 21 basis points on a GAAP basis, and 18 basis points on a core basis. We remain focused on executing on our strategic objectives, and we're pleased with our performance in fourth quarter of '21, and very happy with the full-year results. The first objective is to ensure appropriate risk-adjusted returns for our loans while optimizing the cost of funds. The average non-interest bearing deposits increased 34%. We had record low cost of deposits at 25 basis points. Loan yields were compressed 2 basis points, quarter-over-quarter. The second objective is to maintain strong historical loan growth. Loan closings were up significantly 49% for the link quarter. Loans, excluding PPP, increased 3.7% annualized quarter-over-quarter. The loan pipeline began to season after a record third quarter level and ended the year at a very solid $429 million. Excluding the effects of PPP loan forgiveness, we expect positive loan growth in 2022. The third objective is to enhance core earnings power by improving scalability and efficiency. Earnings per share improved 427% year-over-year on a GAAP basis and…

Mike Bingold

Management

This investment allows an early look at emerging technology, and we are excited about the offerings we have seen so far. In the fourth quarter, we launched enumerated platform to digitally originate small-dollar SBA loans, and to-date, we're pleased with the offering. We recently announced our plan to enable customers the ability to transact Bitcoin through a partnership with NYDIG. We will have an opportunity to acquire new customers and grow non-interest-bearing deposits while generating non-interest income. NYDIG access custodian, and executes the trades. The bank will not hold any Bitcoin or have any price risk. We view this is an attractive opportunity as interest in Bitcoin remains strong. And according to research, customers who want to transact in Bitcoin prefer to do business through a bank. We are working on several other digital initiatives as well. I will now turn the call over to Susan to discuss the key financial metrics.

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you, Mike. I'll begin on Slide 8. Average non-interest bearing and total deposits increased 34% and 17% respectively year-over-year and comprised 15% of average deposits, an improvement from 13% in the fourth quarter of 2020. We continue to focus on optimizing deposit mix and look for ways to reduce the cost of funds. The cost of deposits decreased four basis points quarter over, and 22 basis points over the past 12 months to a record low of 25 basis points. Branch business activity continues to pick up with fourth quarter checking account openings up 35% year-over-year and 13% from the fourth quarter of 2019. Slide 9 outlines a loan portfolio and yields. Loans excluding PPP increased 3.7% annualized quarter-over-quarter. With a strong pipeline and a steeping yield curve, we are optimistic that low growth will improve in 2022. The steeping of the yield curve should help rates on loan originations to move higher over time. Core loan yields which include prepayment penalty income, decreased four basis points quarter-over-quarter, while base loan yields were stable. However, there is still pressure on loan yields as the yield on satisfactions exceeded the yield on loan closings by 40 basis points in the fourth quarter. PPP loans declined 41%, $77 million during the quarter as the SBA continues to forgive loans. During the quarter, the company recognized approximately $1 million of PPP fees. Slide 10 outlines net interest income and margin trends. GAAP net interest margin was 3.29% and declined 5 basis points during the quarter. Net interest income declined 1% to $63 million. Core net interest income, which removes the impact of net gains from fair value adjustments and purchase accounting accretion also declined with core net interest margin compressing 6 basis points to 3.21% in the fourth quarter. Excluding the impact…

John Buran

Management

Thank you, Susan. Slide 17, we provide our key messages. Loan growth is expected to increase in 2022, as we have a strong pipeline and the economy is growing. We're benefiting from the merger disruption as we've added 24 people, nine of which are revenue producers in 2021. And we expect to add more as deals close and the integration begins. We are investing in the business and our people. New services in Bitcoin and reduction in overdraft fees are set to launch in 2022. Our employees are our competitive advantage and we are rewarding them for their efforts during the pandemic. Our expense base will be higher as we invest in the company in 2022. We're preparing for rising rates. We're adding floating-rate assets immediately and floating-rate loans over time will be emphasizing low cost deposit growth. And these initiatives should improve our interest rate risk profile. Overall, we expect to grow Net interest income in 2022 based on expected balance sheet growth. We have a low risk business model with conservative average LTVs. Low credit risk, and a stock that has an approximate 3.4% dividend yield. We'll be maintaining through the cycle return on average assets and return on average equity goals. We have several initiatives in place to help drive results over the long term. Operator, I'll now turn it over to you to open up the lines for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We will now begin our question-and-answer session. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. And our first question will come from Chris O'Connell of KBW. Please go ahead.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Hi. How are you?

Susan Cullen

Management

Morning, Chris.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Morning. So I just wanted to confirm the expense guide here. I thought you said just in the prepared comments, there the First Quarter to be up low single-digit and then I think the thing I'm seeing in the slides, high mid-single-digit inflation plus the $45 million of the 34, 44 million base. Just hoping to confirm kind of where we're starting off the year here.

Susan Cullen

Management

So the -- Excuse me, I'm having trouble speaking this morning. That is pretty close. The $4 million one-time compensation expense item that we took in the fourth quarter of this year should largely offset the seasonal expenses that we see in the first quarter of 2022. And then we have -- yes, we're expecting higher than normal growth in the expenses and the high -- more in the high single digits as we continue to invest in the company.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Okay. And so just to put it all together, if I'm reading it right, I think the fourth quarter shakes out to somewhere plus or minus a bit in the $41 million range. And then usually you guys have, I think typically in the past, you said about $3.5 million drop-down in the second quarter office seasonality, or maybe it's, I guess, $4 million to $5 million now?

Susan Cullen

Management

Right. It depends on what the stock does. Where that will be between 3.5 and 4, or 4.5. It's somewhere in that range.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Perfect.

John Buran

Management

And then 80% drops off in, drops off in the Second Quarter of 2022 roughly.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Yes. So about 3.5 million or so, 3.5 to 4 million drops off. Okay, great. Perfect.

Susan Cullen

Management

Yup.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

And usually it's seasonally flattish plus or minus.

Susan Cullen

Management

Right. On a quarterly basis, right. Correct.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Thereafter, gotcha. Okay. Great. And then I was hoping to just get some color around slides 11 and 12, as far as I guess, on Slide 11, that just chart on the left, what would the line look like before a third line that's not using the forward curve on the NII. just trying to get a frame of maybe like what 125 basis point Fed hike does NII or how that looks.

Susan Cullen

Management

Obviously, what it would look like would also depend on what assumptions we put in there. As we said, the slide was built on lagging deposit cost. If we were to continue to lag deposit cost, I would not expect a 25 basis points to have much of an effect on our net interest income because the deposit betas -- we would lag those deposit betas as we said, and it would depend on what the shape of the yield curve did. It was just the low end that rose, or if the high if the back end rose as well.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Okay. Got it. Seems like -- then, I guess, based on Slide 12, the pressure to the margin NII really comes after two or three here?

Susan Cullen

Management

Yes.

John Buran

Management

Yes.

Chris O'Connell

Analyst

Okay. Great. I will step out for now. Thank you.

Susan Cullen

Management

Great. Thanks, Chris.

John Buran

Management

Great. Yeah. Just to remember Chris on that -- on that slide on Slide 12, we're not assuming any loan growth in that structure, obviously, and there's loan growth. The net interest income, of course, improves.

Susan Cullen

Management

That's on both sides, Chris, they -- both slides assumes a static balance sheet.

Operator

Operator

And once again, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

John Buran

Management

We're done.

Operator

Operator

There appear to be no further questions at this time. I will turn the conference back over to A - John Buran for any closing remarks.

A - John Buran

Analyst

Operator

Operator

The Question is from Manuel Novice of D.A. Davidson, please go ahead.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Good morning. .

Susan Cullen

Management

Good Morning.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Can you talk -- can you add any more color on those nine new hires? I'm curious where they're coming from and what business lines you're adding them to.

John Buran

Management

I think we want to keep that confidential so as not to tip our hands going forward. But obviously, we've got some lenders there, we got some branch staff, we have new business development people, so it's a pretty good mix.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Are you extend -- would those add any new products to your product set or they kind of fall –

John Buran

Management

No, I think we're really talking about people who already do the type of business that we're after, the multifamily in small business market.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Okay. I have a quick followup on those Slides 11 and 12. Are they just an expanded of your 10-Q disclosure because just wondering the percent difference between year one and year two for example on Slide 12. Would that match up with your roughly 3% disclosure in 3Q decline in NII?

Susan Cullen

Management

They are expanded disclosures based on the 10-Q that was filed in November.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Okay. And what betas are you using in Year 1 versus Year 2? You just say you'd like them. Can you disclose?

Susan Cullen

Management

Yes. We don't disclose what we're using as our betas. But they are based on what we have seen as historical runoff. So they're based on what we have seen.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

And is the historical your historical? Or are you taking some of the assuage of the whole –

Susan Cullen

Management

We use our historical because we've been around long enough to be through -- to have gone through many rate cycles.

John Buran

Management

At least what we're seeing is what we're projecting is going to rise in year 2 versus year 1.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Right. Okay. That was helpful. One last question. On capital return. You disclosing that payout ratio is I mean, you're starting to think about capital return in terms of a payout ratio?

Susan Cullen

Management

Well, we've always had a payout ratio. Now, what we're just trying to point out with that 56% is based on our earnings, the dividends we paid, and the effects of the repurchases that we returned 56% of the shareholder. We paid a dividend every year and have never decreased our dividend since we went public in 1995.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Thank you.

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you.

John Buran

Management

It looks like we have no other questions. Once again, thank you very, very much for your attention and we look forward to updating you in the future about our continued strong results.

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Teleconference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation and you may disconnect your lines.