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Flushing Financial Corporation (FFIC)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 26, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to Flushing Financial Corporation’s 2017 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Hosting the call today are Mr. John Buran, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ms. Susan Cullen, Senior Executive Vice President, Treasurer and Chief Financial Officer. Today’s call is being recorded. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] A copy of the second quarter earnings release and slide presentation that the company will be referencing today are available on its investor relations website at www.flushingbank.com. Before beginning, the company would like to remind you that discussion during this call contain forward-looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provision of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any such statements. Such factors are included in our filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Flushing Financial Corporation does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable law. During this call, references to several non-GAAP financial measures as supplemental measures to review and assess operating performance will be made. These non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with U.S. GAAP. For any information about these non-GAAP measures and reconciliation to GAAP measures, please refer to the earnings release. I’d now like to introduce Mr. John Buran, President and Chief Executive Officer, who will provide an overview of the strategy and results.

John Buran

President

Thank you. Good morning everyone and welcome to our inaugural earnings call. As part of our strategic initiative to increase financial transparency and investor engagement we hope to provide you with additional insight into our business strategy, sustainable competitive advantage, and earnings power. Since this is our first earnings call, I will start by providing the highlights of the quarter followed by a brief overview of our company and the strategies that we are employing to create long-term shareholder value. Then Susan and I will address your questions at the end of our prepared remarks as time permits. Starting on Slide 3, I’m very pleased to report we delivered an outstanding second quarter with record core net income and net interest income. As announced in yesterday’s press release for the second quarter of 2017 GAAP diluted EPS was $0.44 and core diluted EPS was $0.46. Core EPS increased 18% year-over-year, and 15% quarter-over-quarter. We achieved record core net income due to our strategy change announced last year to focus origination efforts on higher yielding loans versus volume. The overall yield on loan originations was 4.04% as opposed to 3.85% in the first quarter and 3.71% year ago. For the first time since 2010, the yield on loan originations was greater than the yield on interest-earning assets in the portfolio. This positive trend in loan yields augmented by solid loan growth is one we will work to continue in future quarters. Costs were well controlled as continued asset quality improvement drove down expenses against delinquency, work outs, and OREO. Total delinquent loans were $25 million, the lowest level since March 2008. Nonaccrual loans totaled $14 million and we have no OREO properties. Given the low loan to value associated with non-performing loans of just 38.5%, we do not see an increase…

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you, John. I’ll start on Slide 6. Total loans, including loans held for sale, were $5.1 billion reflecting an increase of 2% quarter-over-quarter and 8% year-over-year as we continue to focus on the origination of multi-family commercial real estate and commercial business banking loans with full banking relationships. Our C&I originations for the quarter were 19% of total originations versus the existing portfolio totaling 14% of gross loans. Our loan pipeline remains strong. The loan to value ratio on real estate loans at quarter-end was only 40%. During the quarter, we strategically purchased $42 million of commercial real estate loans from a local institution. The underlying loans have 27 month duration to reprise and mature and yield 3.68%. At June 30, the pipeline totaled $279 million at an average rate of 4.17% decreasing from a pipeline of $303 million at an average rate of 4.15% for the linked quarter. Based on recent conversations with our customers, lending teams, and recent market activity, we anticipate the pipeline will be replenished over the next quarter. On Slide 7, deposits increased 8% year-over-year but declined 2% quarter-over-quarter, primarily driven by seasonal government banking deposit outflows, which we anticipate returning in the fourth quarter. We continue to increase core deposits as represented by the growth year-over-year with an emphasis on non-interest-bearing deposit accounts. Non-interest-bearing deposits of $349 million represent 8% of total deposits. Since second quarter of 2016 deposits increased $318 million. Our internal initiative of using business development officers to gather deposits from loan customers has resulted in balances totaling $23 million. Funding is also gathered through the iGObanking.com channel. At June 30, its deposits totaled $394 million, while the bank purely balances a total $77 million. We are beginning to see some great pressure on funding given the rising interest rates.…

John Buran

President

Thank you, Susan. Wrapping up, Slide 15 provides a summary of why we believe we are well positioned for continuous strategic and profitable growth. To reiterate, our vision is to be the preeminent community financial services company in our multi-cultural market by exceeding customer expectations and leveraging our strong banking relationships. The New York City market represents a significant opportunity for us. We remain focused on providing a consistent and superior experience at every touch point for our customers and maximizing shareholder value. Those of you that have held our stock for over the last five years know that our total shareholder return has been 141% outperforming the median of our banking peers. In conclusion, we have a strong foundation and track record, a clear strategy and a seasoned leadership team to execute our strategy with a commitment to drive continued profitable growth. We will now take questions as time permits. Operator, I’ll turn it over to you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mark Fitzgibbon of Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open

Yes, I'm sorry good morning. First question I have for you, John and Susan I wondered if you could share with us the total deposits at iGO and may be the average rate on those?

John Buran

President

Total deposits are just a little bit south of $400 million. We do have that other online banking niche bank that we just started, which was, which Susan alluded to BankPurely that’s associated with attempting to build a niche brand for environmentally conscious individuals and that has about $77 million in it, had about $77 million at the end of the quarter. And the average rate right now on IGO is a little bit north of 1%.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open

Okay. And then secondly, Susan, I wonder if you could just clarify your comments before. I think you said the net interest margin will decline by 1 basis point to 2 basis points during the back half of the year, did I hear that correctly?

Susan Cullen

Management

Yes.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open

Okay, so it’s sort of combined both quarters you think 2 basis points max.

Susan Cullen

Management

Two, three, somewhere in that ballpark.

John Buran

President

Let me just give you a little bit of color on what we see in terms of net interest margin Mark. One of the phenomenon that’s occurring and I mentioned it earlier is that we’re getting to the point where our loans that we did five years ago are beginning to reprise. As you know, we do five-year resets on the majority of our loans and over the next few years. So in 2012, we had originations and purchases and these are ballpark numbers because we can fine tune them and report on the next quarter, but we had about $600 million in loans at a rate of 377. We’re bringing on originations north of that in 2013, 835 million with an average rate of 348. And then the rate goes down a little bit more in 2014 and then stays with the three handle all the way into 2017. So, we are now at a point in terms of the portfolio where originations have been coming on at slightly higher yields than the portfolio yield, the loan portfolio yield and certainly higher than the overall asset yield. So, we’re expecting to see some pickup on loan side. The question will be; what is the pace of change going forward from the Fed in terms of their rate increase. If those rate increases remain, let's say more oriented towards the market, rather than oriented towards what the Fed has been coming out with, we expect to see a he turnaround taking place at some point in time in the future perhaps as early as next year. So, the other thing to remember is that our fully indexed rates on all of our loans on those reset rates are they exceed the market rates at this point in time. So, even if we have, even if there is, it gives us the opportunity to be in a very good negotiating position visa-a-via our customers coming in to get their rate adjusted as they do every five years or sooner sometimes when they are looking to recast their debt or reinvest increases into other pieces of property.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open

Okay. And then it looks like our other incomes tripled from the prior quarter, was there anything unusual in there?

Susan Cullen

Management

The unusual item in the other income from the prior quarter, we got a little bit of money from - quite a bit of money from our [indiscernible] claim and it is just general service fee income from the deposit accounts.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open

Okay. And then lastly on expenses, based on your comments earlier about transitioning to the universal banker model it sounds like we are to expect the trend in operating expenses to gradually move down, would you agree with that.

John Buran

President

I don't think we can say it will move down, but I think it will not be increasing at the rates that it has been in the last few years. I think we’re hitting a level of stability; a number of things are going our way with respect to overall operating costs on the credit side, the reconfiguration of the brand system. So, all of these things are combining to really stabilize our operating expenses and we expect to see smaller increases than we have in the prior couple of years.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners. Please go ahead. Mr. Fitzgibbon your line is open

Thank you.

John Buran

President

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Comery of Gabelli. Please go ahead.

Steve Comery

Analyst · Gabelli. Please go ahead

Hi good morning guys.

John Buran

President

Good morning Steve.

Susan Cullen

Management

Good morning.

Steve Comery

Analyst · Gabelli. Please go ahead

I was just looking at the loan balances, I mean multi-family came down a little bit, I was just wondering what was driving that, was that kind of an intentional push to seek yield or was it a credit concern, just wondering what was going on there?

John Buran

President

Well as you know, we have been attempting to push yield more than volume and continue to operate in that mode. We had about 3.9% increase in those loan, in the multi-family category, I think you might be referring to the originations might have been a little lighter. So, we’d look to, let’s say modify our mix of loans based upon where we see opportunities in the market. So, sometimes pricing gets very, very thin on the multi-family side and you see some opportunities on the commercial real estate side where you see more opportunities on the C&I side. So we attempt to focus our marketing efforts and our sales efforts in the categories where we see the best risk adjusted returns for us, and those vary as much as quarter-by-quarter.

Steve Comery

Analyst · Gabelli. Please go ahead

Okay good, and just one other, just wanted to ask about the rate hike in June kind of what impacts did you guys see this quarter and kind of what you expect going forward from it?

Susan Cullen

Management

We didn’t see much effect of it in this quarter given that it happened so late in the quarter, again the last week two weeks doesn't have a material effect on anything. We would expect any increase to be beneficial in the upcoming quarter or assuming everybody stays rational in their deposit pricing.

Steve Comery

Analyst · Gabelli. Please go ahead

Okay. Of the loan side, I mean do you see that kind of filtering into pricing in the market or does it not really affect you that way?

John Buran

President

I think we see a little bit. There is not a lot of because I think what’s happening also is that the competition remains very, very strong for our high quality loans in our market, and that is our area of focus. And so we don't get the full benefit of those rate increases flowing through.

Steve Comery

Analyst · Gabelli. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you.

John Buran

President

I will just make another comment about rates since Steve you had asked the question and that is that the increase in our rates on the deposit side of the business, one of the factors was the movement of our government banking business. We have a seasonal pattern where government banking reduces during this timeframe and then picks up balances towards the end of the year. And in that intervening time, we usually go to the wholesale markets in order to fill-in and at this point in time those wholesale markets were a little bit more expensive than the government business. But we expect that to correct itself to some degree towards the end of the year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Collyn Gilbert of KBW. Please go ahead.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Thanks. Good morning everyone.

John Buran

President

Good morning.

Susan Cullen

Management

Good morning.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Just two questions, may be for starters, just on your outlook for loan growth, kind of where you guys see that trending, kind of given some of the pipeline trends that you're seeing and then part two of that question is talk a little bit more about how you sort of expect to fund that loan growth? I guess Susan given your NIM guidance and given the stabilization that we are seeing on the asset yield side, most of the pressure will come on the funding side. So, just wanting to sort of get a sense of how you're thinking about future funding pressure as well?

John Buran

President

Well I will talk first about the loan side. We think that there is a range, high single digits to low double digits, obviously this quarter we’ve been at the lower end of that range, so - but that’s where we think the market is for us in terms of growth. And in terms of the housing yield…

Susan Cullen

Management

As I said, as long as the market remains rational as you know we are all controlled by the big guys in this market, and so far deposit pricing has been rational. So, we expect depending on what our wholesale funding needs are, which should be pretty flat that we will see pricing about where we are now.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. So the jump in deposit cost on a linked-quarter basis, because I know they have been coming down, but then they jumped, they reversed sort of this quarter. Was that something then that was unusual and you don't expect that type of data to flow through in the third quarter?

John Buran

President

I wouldn't say as unusual because a significant part of it is seasonal pattern of government balances, which we’ve got a very favorable rates, the wholesale funding that we replaced it with is a little bit higher than that. So, I expected some of that will come back towards the end of the year, but that’s a seasonal trend that overlays what the overall trend has been and I think Susan characterized that correctly, it is been one, a fairly good discipline out in the market and no one really acting rationally visa-a-via deposit pricing. So you think of those two trends, one is the long-term trend, which appears rationale, and the other one is an anomaly associated with us where government goes down and comes back and at more favorable rates at the end of the year.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay that’s helpful. And then just on the kind of the Internet banking strategy, how big do you think that potentially can get in terms of a channel for deposit originations?

John Buran

President

Well I think, it is largely unlimited and what constrains us now are our own internal risk metrics on how much we want to get from various channels. So there’s obviously a long-term trend taking place in the market with respect to movement into online banking and we need to be a part of that and importantly we don't want to get ahead of it or fall too far behind it, but one other things that we are trying to do is trying to understand what is the role of a community bank in the Internet space, and for us, our pilot with BankPurely is a way of attempting to establish a community bank out in the online space. So, once again, the answer to your question, we constrain that market or that channel of business now, but we’re looking for ways to make it more real to make it move a little bit away from a rate and more aligned with some other affinity that will hold people in place as we have, for example on the ground in the Asian markets in Flushing.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, that’s helpful. Thank you very much.

John Buran

President

Welcome, thank you.

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from of Varun Bhandari of Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Varun Bhandari

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Hi guys, I'm on for Matthew Breese.

John Buran

President

Hello.

Susan Cullen

Management

Hello.

Varun Bhandari

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Susan, can you just repeat the pipeline yield that you stated earlier.

Susan Cullen

Management

Sure. The pipeline is yielding a little over four; let me find the exact number for you.

John Buran

President

4.17.

Susan Cullen

Management

4.17.

Varun Bhandari

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Perfect, thank you. And then you guys have talked about moving 50% of the branches by year-end to the universal banker model, how many - can you remind me how many are already there and then are there any expected cost saves from this transition?

John Buran

President

There are 5 right now and will be going up to 8 by the end of the year. And we will see some cost reduction as we continue to role those out, you won’t see it abruptly in any particular quarter, but I think over the third and fourth quarter the costs associated with running those branches will clearly decline.

Varun Bhandari

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you. I think that’s it from me. Thank you.

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no more questions in the queue at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. John Buran for any closing remarks.

John Buran

President

Well, I just wanted to say thank you very much for attending our inaugural earnings call and we will continue this process and hope to provide you with ever increasing transparency and a look into our business, which we feel very, very confident about both in terms of short-term and certainly long-term viability and growth. So, thank you again for your attention and your questions.

Susan Cullen

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines and we thank you for your participation.