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Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 24, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the First BanCorp First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to John Pelling, Investor Relations Officer. Please go ahead.

John Pelling

Analyst

Thank you, Allison. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining First BanCorp's conference call and webcast to discuss the company's financial results for the first quarter of 2019. Joining today from the company are Aurelio Aleman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Orlando Berges, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, it is my responsibility to inform you that this call may involve certain forward-looking statements such as projections of revenue, earnings and capital structure, as well as statements on the plans and objectives of the company's business. The company's actual results could differ materially from the forward-looking statements made due to important factors described in the company's latest SEC filings. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call. If anyone does not already have a copy of the webcast presentation or the press release issued by First BanCorp, you can access them at our website at 1firstbank.com. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Aurelio Aleman.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, John and good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our first quarter results. Please, let's begin with the highlights for the quarter on the slide 5 of the presentation. This was another strong quarter for us and also we have to say purely clean, driven by core results. We reported net income of $43.3 million or $0.20 per share. And I think importantly, the pretax pre-provision income reached $70.4 million, which is the highest that we have seen in almost 10 years. Once again, every key franchise metric that we monitor continued to move in a positive direction. We basically hit all our goal for the quarter. Our loan portfolio grew $128 million to now over $9 billion this quarter. This represents our third consecutive quarter of loan growth. We have achieved growth in the loan portfolio even with the meaningful derisking of NPAs and some strategic reductions that we're executing in the residential mortgage portfolio. Net of non-performing loan results shows the performing loan book grew $180 million. National renewal are healthy at $971 million. I think importantly, commercial and construction loans were an important segment of it in all the three regions and the consumer portfolio in Puerto Rico. While there's some seasonality on the large deals which are sometimes difficult to predict from a closing timing, we believe the years should continue at similar pace impacted by the timing of the large deals, but the pipeline remains very strong right now across the three regions to continue supporting similar levels. Importantly, we achieved meaningful progress in the organic reduction of non-performing assets, down $52 million this quarter or 11%. Now, down to NPA is down to 3.35% of assets and NPL down to 3.10. On the funding side, we also hit…

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. The press release details most of the components of the results Aurelio mentioned was fairly core. But I'll touch on some of the key items. As he mentioned, net income for the quarter was $43.3 million or $0.20 a share that -- which compares to $101 million or $0.46 a share for the fourth quarter of 2018. Remember though that the fourth quarter results included a $53 million net tax benefit related to the partial reversal of the Corporation's deferred tax asset valuation allowance, which increased the result at that time. Looking at the provision for the quarter was $4.2 million higher it stood at $11.8 million which compares with the $7.6 million for the fourth quarter. This quarter's provision includes $6.4 million of hurricane-related reserve releases. That looks fairly much in line with the $5.7 million that was released in the fourth quarter. However, the fourth quarter did have a $7.4 million recovery from the prepayment in full of commercial mortgage CDR that was obviously reduced provisioning needs in the quarter. While when we look at the -- this quarter, we recorded a provision of $3.2 million to increase our specific reserves on a commercial mortgage loan in the Florida region, which is part of our resolution -- nonperforming resolution strategies. And we also took a $2.1 million charge under restructuring for commercial mortgage loan in Puerto Rico. Net interest income for the quarter grew $2.5 million, which is driven by $2.7 million increase in interest income in commercial and construction loans. That reflects higher balances based on the originations -- higher level of originations we've had over the last few quarters, including these quarters. Obviously, some benefits from the upward repricing of variable rate loans, which clearly it's changing a bit as LIBOR has come…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today will come from Ebrahim Poonawala of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Ebrahim Poonawala

Analyst

Good morning guys.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Good morning Ebby.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning.

Ebrahim Poonawala

Analyst

Sorry, if I missed this in your comments, I was just hopping on your other call. But can you talk about just outlook in terms of deposit growth as we think about the rest of the year both in terms of the mix of deposit non-interest-bearing versus interest-bearing? And your expectation just around increases in deposit cost? I know you mentioned margin pressures a little bit of pressure. So if you could quantify that in terms of what all of that leads to the margin outlook for the rest of the year.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Well, I'm going to give you, there's a lot of moving parts here. And obviously, we execute toward maximizing the core deposit growth. It will depend on money flow in the market. So far, so good. Not necessarily means that funds that are assigned to the island are coming on an accelerated manner. They're taking longer than we all expected. But we continue to see enough and plenty activity, and it's also showing in some of the growth. So our goal to continue growing it's -- at the level that we are achieving now. If -- in the deposit side, if more funds come in an accelerated manner, then we might improve them. So -- but really, I have to say, Ebrahim that is sometimes a little bit unpredictable, because there are so many factors and moving parts. I think the important part, it's -- we're really focused on it. And the more we can do on a core basis, the better mitigation we have to any impact on the NIM. You do mention the NIM, and the NIM also have a lot of moving parts. Obviously, we -- the contribution of reducing NPA is helping us every quarter, if we look at how much we have reduced over the last years, it's over $200 million. If you -- then you add to that how we will position in the loan portfolio and the balance sheet that we started also about a year ago, we're reducing the mortgage portfolio, having more conforming originations, but we're also growing the consumer book, which is higher yielding. And we have been able to grow the commercial book over the last three quarters. So that -- how that mix of loan continue to move ahead, that is the goal. The goal is to continue to achieve the trend. The offset of that is how the markets it's moving on the repricing side. I think that the Fed positioning on the rate, it's important to continue to monitor obviously. And we see kind of a break over the last couple of months on that trend of increase. But we cannot really predict, renewals are still coming higher than the baseline. So, so, so far, I have to say, we're working towards again maximizing NIM also. And as long as we continue reducing NPAs, increasing the commercial and consumer book and the betas of the deposit continues in level, we should be able to either sustain or stay close to where we are on the NIM, yes.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

The last quarter, I had mentioned that the margin was sustainable in the near term and I still feel that way. We had a pretty good pick up this quarter. I think that obviously with LIBOR coming down again a bit, three-month LIBOR and having a portfolio which is on a commercial side, which has significant ties to LIBOR. LIBOR will definitely put out a little bit of pressure there. I -- honestly, I did not expect margin to go up that much this quarter. So we'll take it. But as Aurelio mentioned, we're going to be in a range, but it's -- we have to recognize that there are some components. Still it’s going to be very healthy margin, I don't think margin is going to come down dramatically.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes.

Ebrahim Poonawala

Analyst

Got it. And just part of what you mentioned around relief funds. Like I get that they've been slower to come than expected. Do you see there are some -- do you have any visibility on whether that picks up by the middle of the back half of the year? Or just hard to say even from your standpoint?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

We monitor that very closely, and there's $1.5 billion that are moving around. As projects are being designed and approved towards those $1.5 billion, so that's kind of the first trench. But that’s really the CDBG components, there’s FEMA still investing out there. And also there's also some private capital coming in from some of the -- that should come in over the next quarters in some of the private -- public-private partnership. So it's difficult to predict the exact timing on this, Ebrahim, yes.

Ebrahim Poonawala

Analyst

Understood. And just separately on capital. One, I think if you can just talk to your expectation around non-performing assets at 3.35% two assets at the end of the quarter. How quickly can that number move lower? And just if you can comment in terms of capital deployment, either buybacks or either from inorganic growth standpoint kind of where do you stand?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes. I think we shared last I think in a few calls ago on the NPA side, we wanted to be below 3% by the half of 2019. We're still working towards that. I think the good thing; we've been able to execute the strategy organically, with less capital impact. It's been a long road on the NPA and we're pleased with the results. I -- we -- the goal is to be below 3% by next -- by the end of next quarter. But it's a deal-by-deal execution. Pipeline looks good on the deals that we have on the table. So hopefully, we're there. Regarding capital, I think first priority is continue to use the capital to leverage the balance sheet and try to grow as much as we can, either on a sound manner with a risk appetite that we have, either organically or non-organically. I think we have -- we don't have any capital announcements to make today, but we have -- we're working towards being able to make some announcements, of capital action announcements during the year. So that is a goal of 2019. I cannot give you any more information on that. But it continues to be in our priority list. But you, obviously, -- the focus continues to be how we can grow the balance sheet and continue to improve our numbers, yes.

Ebrahim Poonawala

Analyst

Got it. And just one last to confirm, we still expect tax rate to be 28% to 29% for the rest of the year?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Yes. Taxes? Yeah, that is correct. Yeah.

Ebrahim Poonawala

Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will come from Brett Rabatin of Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Hi, guys good morning.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning, Brett.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Good morning, Brett. How are you?

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Good. Thanks. I wanted to ask about credit first. I mean, you continue to have a decrease in classify CreditSights and commercial but seeing some of your peer’s early-stage delinquencies are just a little bit higher. Can you talk about what you're seeing in terms of -- I know you're working through some nonperformers and have some charge-offs this quarter. But what the outlook is relative to maybe a quarter ago in terms of just can criticized classify go down? Or is the pipeline filling back up with new delinquencies?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

What we have on hand to date, we don't see the pipeline filling with new delinquencies that concern us. I think we have to consider also that when you close a quarter of 29, and which was a Friday instead of a 31st, that do have an impact -- small impact on delinquencies of payment that are received over the weekend that are not reflected. So in -- we have some noise in the commercial specifically. But when you look at resi and the others, the impact is really related to the timing. So we don't have -- right now we don't have -- we don't see signs of deterioration on an early stage or new path.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

I think -- we’re -- not like $7 million, Brett, and 30, 29 meaning. And part of it was, as Aurelio mentioned, related to collections that typically come in at the end of the month.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And then just want to ask about loan growth and your originations or lower linked quarter, but they're quite a bit higher year-over-year. I mean, can you guys give us some thoughts on growth for the year. I mean, can mid single-digit possibly be achievable? And how are you guys thinking about the portfolio this year?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Our goal is continue to repeat what we achieved this quarter or better. I think the timing of some of the deals sometimes could make some noise. If you have a transaction that don't close this quarter, close the other. Remember that we report also, it's a mix of renewal of deals that we retain and we renew and deals that are new. So that timing is mostly on the renewals. If you look at first quarter, usually on the consumer and mortgage, seasonality is lower. So we continue to see good pipelines to move into the second quarter. So the goal is we'd like to continue to achieve what we did this quarter, and grow the share for some of the products. We are growing share in auto and we're growing share in the consumer loans. In terms of origination, we have continued to grow share in mortgage, even though they don't show -- they don't grow the portfolio because it's primarily conforming. But numbers similar to this quarter is what we are looking to achieve.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Yeah, keep in mind that we did come down $47 million or so in residential mortgages. So, obviously, that's going to affect when you compare percentage wise total portfolio period-to-period.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

But I think that -- the important number is also the portfolio -- the performing book because we still have a goal of reducing NPAs, so really the performing book grew $180 million during the quarter, and which also that contributes to the margin, yeah.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Is there a level you want to get the mortgage portfolio to? Or is there a point where atrophy and -- I know that it doesn't look great from a seasonal perspective, so I understand the desire to deemphasize that portfolio. But is there a point where that becomes less of a headwind?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

I think – we can share with you, probably we don't have it right here. I don't want to say a number from the top of my head. But if you keep the originations, the market originations that we're achieving and around 20% being conforming, so that would level down the portfolio probably -- it's going to continue decreasing for the next couple of years and then will level. Yeah.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And then one last quick one. Just I joined a little bit late. But the margin from here, the margin was obviously up, but you had increases in both loans or both loan yields and the cost of funds just the margin atrophy a little bit from here relative to 1Q?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Well, the – I was mentioning that obviously we did have a larger pickup that I expected in the quarter, driven by the fact that we did grow the non-interest bearing deposits in the quarter and yields went up as the consumer portfolio continues to come up. We benefit from the average LIBOR being higher than it was last quarter and having a portfolio mortgage – a commercial portfolio which is around two-thirds that are floating. The – we do expect margin to hold at the levels we had seen in the prior quarter. The reality is that LIBOR did come down a bit towards the end of this quarter, so we'll have some impact going forward. And as we had mentioned, the rate increase on the deposit side hasn't shown as, as you will know, as aggressively as in the states. But we have seen some increases. So we feel some of those will compensate. Margins will stay up. Can it be at 4.92? I don't know. But it's going to be at level in between these two quarters. For the next two or three quarters, I think it's sustainable.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. Appreciate all the color.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, Brett.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Thanks, Brett.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Arren Cyganovich of Citi. Please go ahead.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst

Thanks. I was wondering if you could just give us an update on what the M&A environment's like in Puerto Rico, if there's anything that you can comment on that side?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

There's really no news on that front that we can – that we have to share, really, nothing.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst

Okay. And then you addressed capital return a little bit. Is the reduction of NPAs down below 3%, is that something you have to achieve before you can start to return a higher level of capital being above 20% CET1? It definitely seems like an outlier relative to most banks you see out there.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yeah. It's more unreliable not necessarily it's a limitation.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Yeah. We've had that guidance, internal guidance below those levels. You have a really manageable portfolio, which non-performing portfolio which up to now it was a bit high. So it's clearly one component of the whole formula. But it's not a – the defined driver.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Thanks, Arren.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Alex Twerdahl of Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Hey. Good morning.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning, Alex.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

So I'm just wondering if we can put the puzzle pieces together and the margin sustainable and we get a little bit of loan growth from here and the expense guidance is really unchanged, does that all imply that the $70-plus million of pre-tax provision should be sustainable over the next several quarters?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yeah. That's the goal. That's the goal. We really – we still have levers to make that number better, and that's the goal, yeah.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Great. And then just in the near term as we think about all this FEMA money and CDBG money that is expected to flow down to the Island and some of it which has already been allocated and much of it is not, does that create more or fewer lending opportunities in the near-term?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

If you – I think we have to go back to – we have a recession baseline. So I think don't forget about the baseline. I think the baseline was low. So any growth is good in terms of how the economy is moving. And there's a lot happening in the reconstruction in both Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands and still some private money moving around on insurance. And there is FEMA money and there's CDBG money that is coming. So I'd say it's difficult to predict, but the flow is going to be more positive than it's been for years. So that should lead to additional lending and activities. We're already looking at projects that are related to reconstruction of housing, just an example, or other type of infrastructure. So the answer is yes, we believe that, yes, the timing is unpredictable, but lending – demand for lending should pick-up.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Great. And then just finally, we saw the dividend was turned on I think in November, the common dividend. Is there a time of year specifically that you guys would be analyzing specific capital actions like dividend increases or buyback announcements? Or is it a much more fluid process throughout the year?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yeah. It's an ongoing process, it's an ongoing process. And as we speak, we're working on actions that we would like to execute. And hopefully, we can give news to the market this year, although it's an ongoing process. Yeah. And it's a priority.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, Alex.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from Glen Manna of KBW. Please go ahead.

Glen Manna

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, guys.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Good morning, Glen.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning, Glen.

Glen Manna

Analyst

When we talk about the possibility of a recovery in Puerto Rico and what's going on, I put your Puerto Rico loans into my model just on a segment basis and this is the third quarter of sequential growth in Puerto Rico loans and it's been growing at a sequentially higher rate. I look back in my model and that hasn't happened in all the data I've had in my model. So, can you give us some color on what industries, especially on the C&I side you are seeing growth in? And maybe give us some anecdotal evidence of where it's been? And in terms of -- because yields were up and given LIBOR and what Orlando said, can you tell us what competitive is like in the market? And what you're seeing on pricing?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

I think the market, the market -- let's talk first of all, on pricing, I think the risk is fairly priced. I think bankers learned from experience. And we have to say that in Puerto Rico, the risk is fairly priced, also in the Virgin Islands. I think when you look at Florida, it's challenging. It's more competitive and more aggressive on pricing. But it's been like that for some time also. That's on the pricing side. On the -- what industries. I think when you look at it -- first of all, when you look at commercial, we do lend in small middle market and large corporations and we have -- we are focused on the three segments. So, there's a small business activity and there's middle market activity and there is large deals. When you look at asset class, there's no -- nothing specific that highlights specifically as an asset class, just activities related to construction, warehouses, distributors, demand for materials, distribution companies. And also -- that's one segment. Also auto, even though it's shown as a commercial, we have increased our exposure in the inventory of auto on the wholesale side, because we finance that inventory. So, I don't say we're not creating a concentration in any asset that we'll see -- for example, construction, we haven't seen yet the heavy activity in Puerto Rico starting to come, deals are starting to flow.

Glen Manna

Analyst

So, with -- what has come in? Are you happy that FBP is getting its share?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

We're happy that we are getting our good share. And we're very active on the street. And you saw that PPNR up 70 and it's linked to that growth. It's linked to that portfolio growth. And we have to continue -- that's our goal to continue getting that share -- the fair share in the market. We still have some buckets of share on the consumer that we have opportunity for increase. And we have it also in the commercial and CRE side -- the C&I and CRE side.

Glen Manna

Analyst

And Orlando, maybe you could help me out. On the yields in the commercial, were there any credit driven interest rate recoveries this quarter in that number? Or were they pretty much flat quarter-over-quarter?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

No, there was nothing significant. There is always a little bit of collections of non-performing that you get every quarter and it could be a little bit higher or lower. Never -- typically not a significant amount like a couple of large cases we had at the end -- second half of last year. But not -- not this quarter. It was more of the normal kind of thing.

Glen Manna

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thanks, Glen.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this will conclude our question-and-answer session. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference back over to John Pelling for any closing remarks.

John Pelling

Analyst

Thank you, Allison. On the IR front, we have the center Puerto Rico Investor Tour scheduled for May 23. We also plan to attend the Morgan Stanley 10th Annual Financial Conference in New York on June 11th and 12th. We greatly appreciate your continued support. And at this point, we will end the call. Thank you.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, all.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.