Ramsey Alloush
Analyst · H.C. Wainwright
Yes. And I think more specifically, Brandon, you were looking at where the friction is out in the market in terms of barriers, if you will, UMs. And we talk -- again, we talk about what the quality of lives are, and that's that 72 million, that 38%. But we also talked about access, which is pathway to a prescription, and that's more like 169 million lives. So if you look at the delta between the 2, you're going to see that the, let's call it, 80 million, 90 million lives, right, that potentially have access to Emrosi might have a larger barrier, right, in terms of that friction. That could be, for example, a prior auth or a double step that's in place, right? And so our job is identifying where those bottlenecks are, and we've been doing that on a consistent basis and speaking with those plans to see what it takes to get Emrosi down to sort of our benchmark, which is that quality single-step therapy or better. Obviously, from a clinical perspective, we have a strong value proposition. There are other drugs obviously available to them in the market from a rosacea treatment standpoint. And our category, again, we're saying a single step through any of those either oral or topical agents. Typically, when prescribers do prescribe for rosacea, they're using an oral and they may -- they also may supplement with a topical. But again, with our head-to-head data, the fact that our drug works in essentially half the time as rosacea, right, 8 weeks, we achieved the results greater than what rosacea did in our study in 16 weeks with strong value proposition, not only from a clinical perspective, but from a financial perspective. And this is resonating very well with the payers. But this isn't a very highly managed category, right, in terms of rosacea and kind of what the payers have on their plates, right, when you think of GLP-1s, other oncology, rare disease orphan drugs. So it takes a little bit more time. We are having -- again, we have great contacts with the important plans that we think are going to make the difference that, for example, may have a double step or a PA and why we think it's not appropriate to have sort of that UM in place for our drug, given the data and the financial profile for it. And so yes, I'd say the scripts that are going through with those are still going to continue to grow through, but they could go through at a higher rate, which covered, which is going to improve our reimbursement if we're able to remove and reduce those barriers, and that's what we're going to continue to do through Q3, Q3, Q4 and into 2028 as well.