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EyePoint Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (EYPT)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 6, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Antoine, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the EyePoint Second Quarter 2025 Financial Results and Recent Corporate Developments Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that, this call is being recorded at the company's request. I would now like to turn the call over to George Elston, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of EyePoint.

George O. Elston

Analyst

Thank you, and thank you all for joining us on today's conference call to discuss EyePoint's second quarter 2025 financial results and recent corporate developments. With me today is Dr. Jay Duker, President and Chief Executive Officer of EyePoint. Jay will begin with a review of recent corporate updates and discuss the ongoing clinical trials for DURAVYU in wet-AMD. I will close with commentary on the second quarter 2025 financial results, and we will then open the call for your questions. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release detailing our financial results and recent corporate developments. A copy of the release can be found on the Investor Relations tab on the company website, www.eyepointpharma.com. Before we begin our formal comments, I'll remind you that various remarks we will make today constitute forward-looking statements for the purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These include statements about our future expectations, clinical developments and regulatory matters and timelines, the potential success of our products and product candidates, financial projections and our plans and prospects. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors section of our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, which is on file with the SEC and in other filings that we may have made or may make with the SEC in the future. Any forward-looking statements represent our views as of today only. While we may elect to update these forward-looking statements at some point in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so even if our views change. Therefore, you should not rely on these forward-looking statements as representing our views as of any date subsequent to today. I'll now turn the call over to Dr. Jay Duker, President and Chief Executive Officer of EyePoint.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thank you, George. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I am delighted to discuss with you today our key second quarter updates highlighted by the impressive progress of our Phase III clinical program for our lead asset, DURAVYU, in wet age- related macular degeneration or wet-AMD. Since January 2021, when the first patient was dosed with DURAVYU in our Phase I DAVIO trial, our diligent focus and exceptional execution across all fronts has brought us in just over 4.5 years to full enrollment in both of our Phase III pivotal trials in wet-AMD, a testament to EyePoint's leadership in drug development and commitment to serving the retinal community. Before discussing the specifics of the past quarter, I'd like to reflect on how far we've come as a company over the short period. We successfully and efficiently pivoted to a clinical stage biopharmaceutical company, prioritizing the development of DURAVYU as a new treatment paradigm in the 2 largest retinal disease markets, wet-AMD and diabetic macular edema, or DME, while exiting the specialty pharma business. We completed 4 clinical trials for DURAVYU, including 3 Phase II trials, treating over 190 patients with DURAVYU across multiple retinal indications, establishing a robust and favorable safety profile that is cited by physicians as a key motivator for their eager participation in our pivotal program. We've generated the most comprehensive data set among current sustained release therapies in development for wet-AMD, establishing truly compelling Phase II efficacy data, demonstrating statistically non-inferior visual acuity compared to on-label aflibercept, while reducing treatment burden by over 80%. Bolstered by this robust efficacy profile, outstanding safety and a patient-centric pivotal trial design, we completed oversubscribed Phase III enrollment in record time for this indication, with over 800 patients enrolled across the LUGANO and LUCIA trials. Thanks to…

George O. Elston

Analyst

Thank you, Jay. To begin, we continue disciplined financial management and good stewardship of our cash, ending the second quarter with $256 million in cash and investments. Of note, as Jay just mentioned, the rapid enrollment of over 800 patients in the LUGANO and LUCIA trials accelerated our planned use of cash into the first half of 2025. The trial enrollment was well ahead of our expectations and the associated burn is included in our plan and cash runway guidance. Now that we have completed full enrollment for both trials, we expect cash burn to meaningfully decline in the second half of 2025. Accordingly, we affirm previous cash runway guidance and expect cash will support our operations into 2027 well beyond key data readouts for our Phase III wet-AMD program in 2026. As the financial results for the 3 months ended June 30, 2025, were included in the press release issued this morning, my comments today will focus on a high-level review for the quarter. For the quarter ended June 30, 2025, total net revenue was $5.3 million compared to $9.5 million for the quarter ended June 30, 2024. Net revenue from license and royalties for the quarter ended June 30, 2025, totaled $5.3 million compared to $8.4 million in the corresponding period in 2024. The decrease was primarily driven by lower recognition of deferred revenue related to the agreement to licensed YUTIQ product rights completing our exit from Specialty Pharma. Operating expenses for the quarter ended June 30, 2025, totaled $67.6 million, compared to $44 million in the prior year period. This increase was primarily driven by the increase in clinical trial costs related to the ongoing Phase III LUGANO and LUCIA clinical trials of DURAVYU for wet-AMD. Net nonoperating income totaled $2.9 million and net loss was $59.4 million, or $0.85 per share compared to a net loss of $30.8 million, or $0.58 per share for the prior year period. As I noted earlier, cash and cash equivalents and investments in marketable securities on June 30, 2025, totaled $256 million compared to $371 million as of December 31, 2024. And again, we affirm cash guidance unchanged into 2027. In conclusion, we're incredibly pleased with EyePoint's progress so far in 2025 and remain well capitalized to deliver DURAVYU Phase III data in 2026. I'll now turn the call back over to Jay for closing remarks.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thank you, George. As you've heard this morning, we ended the second quarter in a phenomenal position, and we remain focused on advancing DURAVYU, a best-in-class program in wet-AMD. With our strong balance sheet and clear development strategy, we are prepared to execute through our upcoming key milestones, including top line data for the Phase III LUGANO trial anticipated in mid-2026, with LUCIA to closely follow. An NDA submission for DURAVYU in wet-AMD, assuming positive data and continued updates on the DME program, including a presentation of the Phase II VERONA end-of-study results at the Retina Society Annual Meeting in September. Our 2025 progress to date reflects our dedication to advancing our pipeline and delivering innovative treatments for serious retinal diseases, and we are excited to continue our momentum throughout the second half of the year. Thank you all very much for your attention this morning. I will now turn the call over to the operator for your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Tess Romero from JPMorgan.

Tessa Thomas Romero

Analyst

So maybe you could speak a little bit to overall trial conduct of these 2 pivotal studies in wet-AMD and what you're really focused on getting right to mitigate any key risks.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thanks for the question, Tess. Nice to hear from you. That's really a question I think Ramiro, our Chief Medical Officer, can answer best because this is obviously what he is now focusing on and will be focusing on over the next year, given that we are now fully enrolled. So Ramiro, do you want to take that question?

Ramiro Ribeiro

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question, Tess. And I think one advantage that EyePoint has is that, we have a strong large Phase III study that gave us a lot of experience on the conduct of studies with our 1901 DURAVYU. So as Jay mentioned, we executed really well on the enrollment, completed the enrollment for both studies ahead of time. And now the focus is on the study conduct. So of course, we are -- have a collaboration very closely with the clinical sites, with the investigators to get and make sure that there is no deviations on this protocol. We also, of course, track safety of our patients in the study, which is very important. We have a good collaboration with our CRO that help us conduct the study. So now it's all about making sure that we have a great execution over the next 12 months, and then study preparation for our top line results with on-time database lock and other activities that are necessary for the top line results.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

And maybe if I could add just a little bit more about our protocol. Once again, this noninferiority trial design is something that retinal physicians are really used to. Our control group is on label. And the study design, again, is simple for the sites and the patients to understand. So, I think all of this helps keep patients in the trial. And our dropout rate is quite low in both trials, less than 2% currently. So, from that regard, we're doing really, really well also.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jennifer Kim from Cantor Fitzgerald.

Jennifer M. Kim

Analyst

Congrats on the continued execution, the delivery and consistency of these trials has been refreshing to see. Maybe to start off, I know you said you've talked about not disclosing certain mask data in the Phase IIIs and avoiding introducing operational bias. Is there a line that would concern regulators in terms of introducing bias? And are you able to say anything on the cadence of, say, supplemental rescues as far as whether they've stayed within expectations? Maybe we can start there.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Yes. Good question, Jennifer. Thanks for that. So I think at a high level, talking about masked demographics such as age, sex, OCT visual acuity of the patients that have been enrolled is not really any risk. And we will likely do that in the future prior to top line data. On the other hand, what we wouldn't want to do is introduce bias that would cause investigators or patients to alter their behavior. There really isn't any reason for us in my mind to put that risk into our trial results at this point. So, while we may, under circumstances in the future, rethink this, right now, things are going so well that we wouldn't want to introduce unnecessary risk into the studies. And once again, Ramiro, if you want to give a little more color on that or any more detail, please feel free.

Ramiro Ribeiro

Analyst

No, I think you covered well. And of course, we have a lot of the mechanics to make sure that the safety of the patients is going well, including an independent data monitoring committee that assess the safety of our study on an independent matter. And we issued that press release included that information that the safety of whichever brand is going as we expected as well as our Phase II study. But as Jay mentioned, we want to make sure we don't introduce unnecessary bias in the study that is going so well so far.

Jennifer M. Kim

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And my second question is actually related to that. Should we expect a regular cadence of safety updates like on a quarterly or some periodic basis?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Well, I think we will give periodic updates. We haven't really discussed internally, will there be a cadence. We'll cover that in the future. And yes, I think it's quite likely that we will give periodic updates to the safety database as we hear from the Data Safety Monitoring Committee.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tyler Van Buren from TD Cowen.

Tyler Martin Van Buren

Analyst

Congratulations on the tremendous enrollment for both LUGANO and LUCIA. Can you just elaborate on the rescue criteria for the trials, especially given the recent competitive updates and how that aligns with what is seen in the real world?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thanks for the question, Tyler. I'll actually address the second part of your question first. And again, if you talk to retina specialists and you ask them about the supplemental criteria in any one study, their first reaction is, well, that's not what I do in the real world. And the issue is that in the real world, giving an additional injection is something that is very much individualized to the patient. What's their vision? How is the other eye doing? Do they notice a change? A myriad of things that individualize treatment for patients. But for a study, you can't do that. You need to have strict guidelines, especially in a pivotal program about when a rescue or supplement injection is given. So, as we have disclosed publicly in the past, our Phase III supplement criteria, we think, is very straightforward. If a patient loses more than 5 letters with 75 microns of new fluid over best on study due to wet-AMD, they should be rescued. And that's been consistent from the start of the trial, we haven't amended that. In addition, we have a second criteria, which is new site-threatening hemorrhage that is caused by wet age-related macular degeneration. And we've set up a system that's working, we think, quite well with injection monitors, and we've asked the sites to call one of these monitors, and they've been excellent about getting on the line with the sites right away to discuss potential rescue over a hemorrhage. And that needs to include a fundus photograph. And the reason we did that was when we looked at our Phase II data, in the DAVIO 2 wet-AMD trial, there were 9 patients who were rescued in all 3 groups total for hemorrhage. Well, when we looked at the fundus photographs and the clinical situation with our KOLs and our advisers, 6 out of 9 of those eyes either didn't have a hemorrhage or the hemorrhage was not due to wet-AMD, or was not site threatening. So, we really want to only rescue the patients who need it and are going to benefit from it and not rescue patients who do not. And therefore, again, this was Dr. Ribeiro's evaluation of the rescues in the Phase II. We don't have a criteria for fluid alone. We don't have a criteria for visual acuity loss alone, because in those situations, what we saw in the Phase II is a rescue injection didn't help. And in the Phase II, 20% of the rescues were not per any of the protocol rescue requirements. They were due to the physician discretion. And we've removed physician discretion in the Phase III.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz. Yigal? Our next question comes from Yatin Suneja from Guggenheim.

Yatin Suneja

Analyst

Maybe 2 quick ones for me. With regard to the baseline, could you just comment on what percentage of naive and exposed patients you are targeting and where did you end up? If you can just talk about that on a high level. And then switching to the commercial dynamic, could you just talk about your early commercialization strategy, what work you might be doing now? What type of patients can we address? And how should we think about the overall commercial team.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thanks, Yatin. Nice to hear from you. First of all, with the baseline division between patients who were previously treated and who were naive to treatment, we sought to get about a 75%, 25% naive to previously treated ratio, and that's in fact, what we achieved. So, 75% of the enrolled eyes were naive. With respect to commercialization, we've had an early product commercialization team on this essentially since the beginning of our Phase II DAVIO 2 wet AMD trial. And they have been working diligently, not only in, let's say, preparing the market, which I think they've done a very good job in raising physician awareness of what a TKI is and how it's differentiated from our current therapies, as well as how a sustained release delivery system like Durasert E can be advantageous for small molecule delivery. But they've also been in discussions with payers and with administrators of both large and small retinal practices in the United States and out of the United States to get a feel for how we can set the stage for us to be successful in the marketplace. So, this has been an extensive broad and deep effort that we've done and we'll continue to do. And we are planned and budgeted to start to build our commercial team in more breadth and depth later this year in anticipation of a successful NDA and potential launch, we hope at the end of 2027.

Yatin Suneja

Analyst

Maybe one more, if I can follow up. Just on the naive versus exposed patient, are there special consideration for how we should think about the rescue rate or the injection fee rate, at least on the control arm for these naive versus the exposed patients? Just curious how that dynamic will be between these 2 subsets.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

That's a good question, Yatin. And I don't think we can actually know that yet. we expect that the rescue rate for naive patients will be less than what we saw in the DAVIO 2 Phase II trial. The reasoning is in the DAVIO 2 trial, while they were all previously treated patients, the vast majority of them were being treated often, as we like to refer to them as frequent flyers. On average, those patients had received 10 injections normalized of the year leading into the study. And in the United States, we specialists average about 6 injections per year. So, this is a group of patients that needed a lot of treatment. Yet we did pretty well with them. We got very few patients who had already been treated and extended out 3 months or longer. They just didn't enroll in that trial. Now our assumption, and I think it should be clear to everybody that, if we have a patient who can be successfully treated and extended out to 3 months or longer on any of the current agents, our drug, DURAVYU should do really well with those patients. So, we wanted to get a portion of them into the trial. And depending on who you talk to, this could be 20% or 25% of the wet AMD naive population. So, we think that by enrolling a predominantly naive population, we should see fewer supplements, and we hope to see, therefore, better visual acuity results. I will like to remind everyone that, if you looked at the patients in DAVIO 2 that did not get supplemented, they made it through month 8 with no supplement, their visual acuities were numerically better than the Eylea control group. So, the unsupplemented patients seem to do exceptionally well with our drug, and we hope and expect that will continue in the pivotal trial.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz from Citigroup.

Yigal Dov Nochomovitz

Analyst

I had 2 questions. One on the endpoint. There's been some chatter in the marketplace with respect to the blended versus the single time point. I'm just wondering, if you could comment, Jay, on that point. And is this a detail that the retina professionals really even care about whether you happen to average 2 very close points in time versus a single point in time? And then also just looking ahead to the potential launch, assuming everything goes well with the studies, is this a situation where once you get to the label, you can just launch immediately? Or is it a situation where you would wait until you have the label language in hand and then there'd be a period of time where you have to do the final fill and finish label printing and so forth and then launch some period of time after actually the PDUFA?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Yigal. Two good questions. So, the blended endpoint was a regulatory, let's call it, strong suggestion. In fact, in our 2022 Type C meeting on our pivotal program, they insisted on it. And that's why we did a blended endpoint in our Phase II trial. This was reiterated again at our end of Phase II meeting in 2024 with the agency. And so, we obviously put that into our trial. We think the blended endpoint is a good thing. We think it decreases variability, and it decreases the risk of missing your primary endpoint. This blended endpoint also will help ensure that there is no missing data at the end of the trial. Obviously, if a patient makes one of those 2 blended visits but misses the other, there's a way we statistically handle that versus if they miss the single endpoint entirely. So overall, the agency strongly suggested it, and we did it, and we're very happy that we did it. And we think this is another point of our protocol that is derisking. In addition, I have to add the blended endpoint has been used in most recent studies. This isn't new or unique. So, your second question about timing of launch. At this point, should our trials be successful and our NDA approved, we are working diligently towards an immediate launch after approval.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Debanjana Chatterjee.

Debanjana Chatterjee

Analyst

So with the first readout expected in mid-2026 and the second to follow shortly after, could you give us like any more color into your regulatory plans on how you'll gather the data and how soon you can submit? And maybe could you also comment on the scope of the safety package that the FDA would like to see with the initial filing?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Sure. Thank you for that question. So now that we are fully enrolled in both studies in record time, Ramiro and his clinical group are really focused on ensuring that the data is sound, as we discussed earlier, and preparing for the NDA submission. So again, we expect top line data from the first trial to be summer of next year with the second trial, again, to follow shortly. I'm going to let Romero talk about some of the efforts around rapid NDA filing that we are working on.

Ramiro Ribeiro

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question. As Jay mentioned before, our expertise and our strain is on the execution. So, the same way that we were able to execute rapidly on the enrollment, our aim is also to make sure that we do an NDA ahead of schedule. We have 2 identical non-inferiority studies. And this really gives the benefit of looking at the results from the first study from LUGANO doing some learnings there. And then when we get the results from LUCIA, be able to accelerate the interpretation and the write-up of those results, again, because both studies are identical. We should assume that the result of LUGANO is going to be replicated on LUCIA. In terms of the safety package, as any other NDA submission, this is going to include the results from our Phase I, Phase III study as well as the combination of the Phase III program. And we should have enough patients to meet the requirements for the FDA for this type of indication.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

And I just want to elaborate a little bit more on what Ramiro just said about numbers. So, the FDA has been clear for years about wet-AMD safety database. You need to have 300 evaluable patients at the dose and the interval that you want on your label. And if you come in with 299, it will not be accepted. That's why if you look at the draft guidelines, the draft guidelines say you need -- they recommend 400 patients enrolled in your trials at the dose and the interval you want to go to market with. That's to allow for attrition. So you come in with over 300. We will have well over 400 patients between both trials at the 6-month dosing at the 6-month interval at the 2.7 milligram dosing. So, we're very comfortable with the safety database that we will be coming in with. And I will also remind you, we can file after 1 year, 56 weeks, but both trials will be -- have a second year, which is a safety year only, and then we will file an sNDA for the extension after the second year. So go ahead, if you had another.

Debanjana Chatterjee

Analyst

Yes. Just a very quick one on filing. So, could you please remind us what could be the advantage of like filing the traditional way versus the 505(b)(2) pathway that some competitor trials like they are talking about that while the traditional one might be slightly longer, are there distinct advantages that you get there?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

My understanding is that, if you are filing with a drug that's been approved already, there is a potential 2-month savings over the traditional pathway. Now as you're aware, the FDA has talked publicly recently about accelerating the pathway in various ways, and we will obviously be looking at those for our filing. Regardless, if you have a moiety that's already been approved, but you're putting it now into a drug device combo. There's rules around what you need to file with for drug device combo. And we all have the same necessary clinical studies and CMC package that has to be delivered. So, there's a short potential savings there. But again, we are quite confident in -- given the rapid rate of enrollment that we've had that we will be first to file and if the filing is accepted, first to approval and first to launch among all the currently studied sustained release in the marketplace or potential marketplace rather.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Lisa Walter from RBC.

Lisa A. Walter

Analyst

Maybe just on the pivotal trial progress. Should we expect any other updates beyond safety, like patient retention perhaps between now and when the pivotal trials begin to read out in mid-2026? And also, just curious if you are planning to run an open-label extension study for DURAVYU.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thanks for the questions. The second one is easy. Yes, we will do an extension study. We're in the midst of really planning that out, and we think that will provide tremendous value for practitioners and patients to understand the long-term benefits of DURAVYU. So that is in the planning As for pivotal trial progress, again, I do expect that we will give an update on the basic demographics of the enrolled patients. We will likely give periodic safety updates as we receive the mass safety data. And that's what we have planned at the present time. Ramiro anything else you'd like to add about potential other masked interval additions?

Ramiro Ribeiro

Analyst

No, I think you covered well. And also, we know the -- there always the potential risk of introducing bias, if you start disclosing too much in a Phase III study. So we are assessing that one.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Colleen Kusy from Baird.

Colleen Margaret Kusy

Analyst

Congrats on all the progress. If I can go back to the rescue criteria, can you talk about how the FDA views the rescue criteria and how they would handle the evaluation of the Phase III data for those patients that got rescued? And then separately on DME, any realized details are going to be forthcoming there, but any color you can share on the feedback from the FDA? And what are some of the factors you're still considering?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Sure. So with respect to rescue criteria, the FDA, as far as I know, which only is limited to what we have been told and what we see publicly is they allow companies to apply their own standards for rescue criteria. And that's what we've done. Again, we were able to develop our rescue criteria based on real data. We did a large Phase II study, the DAVIO 2 trial, which not only informed us about efficacy of our drug, but safety as well as statistics and really gave us good data on what really should be done with respect to rescues. DME, we were very pleased with the discussions with the agency. We are excited to start the pivotal program. And by start, I mean first patient enrolled in 2026. Technically, we've already started in the sense of preparing and manufacturing the inserts and obviously getting the clinical protocols ready. We're waiting for the written minutes. And after the written minutes in the fall, we will update publicly on what our plans are. One of the things going back to supplements, though I might add, is that supplements are not viewed as a treatment failure in our trial. The supplement patients have sensitivity analysis that will be applied to them, and that's according to the statistics package that we've worked out with the FDA. And that's consistent with the real world. Because in the real world, if you had a patient who required anti- VEGF injections, say, every 4 weeks, and you gave them a DURAVYU, and we're safe, tolerated, effective, FDA approved with a 6- month label, yet they required 1 or 2 supplements over a year, that would be a tremendous value to the patient and the practitioner to go from 12 shots a year to 4. So, reflecting the fact that the idea of supplement because TKIs have a different MOA, supplementation in the real world is not necessarily a treatment failure. I think that's also reflected in how they will be handled in the pivotal trials.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Graig Suvannavejh from Mizuho.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

This is Sam on for Greg. Congrats again on the quarter and all the progress. Maybe 2 quick ones for me. First, in terms of ASRS, just curious what the feedback has been from the physician community with their review. And then also for the upcoming presentation in September with the full end of study VERONA data, what incremental data should we be expecting compared to the top line?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Thanks, Jim. We just got back from ASRS in Long Beach, and we had multiple meetings with advisory boards of various age groups and times in practice and a lot of one-on-one meetings. And I have to say, it was incredible. I mean, I was blushing. They were saying such positive things about our company and our program. They -- multiple investigators thanked us for allowing them to be in the program. And so it really was a kind of a nice segue from our announcement to full enrollment to the incredible positive feelings we had from all aspects of the retina community, not just about the execution of the trial and the ease of enrollment and the pleasure that they had being in it, but even the doctors who weren't in the trial, starting to understand that, first of all, we're the next ones up with pivotal data in wet-AMD in about a year. So, we are the next ones up for both studies in about a year. So, they're excited about that. They're excited about the potential of a new mechanism of action, not just another anti-VEGF that may give another week or 2 of extension, but a true extension possible for 6 months or longer with a new MOA. So yes, it was -- is a very, very productive, and I have to say, fun ASRS, and we really are looking forward, our entire team is looking forward to further interactions with the retina community and partnering with the retina community to really help their patients. As for what's coming in September, I'm going to defer to Ramiro for that update.

Ramiro Ribeiro

Analyst

Yes, Sam, thanks for the question. I don't want to disclose so much because those presentations, retina society are important. But we're going to be building more on what we have presented before in terms of BCVA, CST and treatment burden for the VERONA trial.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniil Gataulin from Chardan.

Daniil V. Gataulin

Analyst

Congrats on the progress. Just a couple of quick ones for me. With respect to LUCIA trial, what fraction of patients were U.S. versus ex U.S.? And with that experience of enrolling ex U.S. patients, how would you describe the awareness and overall interest among patients in ex U.S. compared to here in the United States?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

So I don't have the exact final numbers for, but the last I saw, it was approximately 80% U.S., 20% ex U.S. I think that reflects to a large degree, the fact that things went so fast in the United States that by the time we were able to get the ex-U.S. sites up and running, we, in some cases, were near the end of the study or at the end of the study. But the interest in a sustained release, safe, effective 6- month option ex U.S. is really, really great. As you know, in some countries, getting long-term acute care, meaning monthly or bimonthly injections for a chronic problem is difficult. So both patients and practitioners were really excited about what DURAVYU might have to deliver should we be approved.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Yi Chen from H.C. Wainwright.

Yi Chen

Analyst

Could you please let us know whether there will be another Data Safety Monitoring committee meeting before the first data readout in mid-2026? And also, how should we look at the level of top line revenue in the coming quarters?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

The first question about the DSMB, Ramiro, do you want to answer that?

Ramiro Ribeiro

Analyst

Yes. So as a typical Phase III program, we have a DMC meeting every 6 months. So, we expect to have at least 2 or more of those before the top line results.

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

And the second question was about revenue? I'm sorry, you broke up a little bit.

Yi Chen

Analyst

Yes. The level of top line revenue that you expect for the coming quarters?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

George, top line revenue.

George O. Elston

Analyst

Yes. So, you'll see in the Q -- our -- recall that we exited the commercial business 2 years ago, we had some follow-on revenue recognition really associated with that. It wasn't cash driven, and that was completed in Q2. And so moving forward, our revenue line will be de minimis. We still supply commercial product to our partner in China. But that -- we don't expect that to be a material number. We've really transitioned, as Jay said at the opening, to being a clinical stage company.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Greg Harrison from Scotiabank.

Joseph Stephen Thomas

Analyst

This is Joe Thomas on for Greg. Just digging a little bit more maybe into the competitive landscape going forward and particularly the timing to market now that the competitor has announced that they won't read out their second trial until 2027. What advantage do you think that first-mover advantage in being first to market will give to DURAVYU wet AMD?

Jay S. Duker

Analyst

Joe, thanks for the question. Taking a step back, this is a huge market already. It's $10 billion in growing. And that if you look at drugs with a new MOA being launched into a new market, having 2 competitors actually is additive. So, we think having other companies interested in TKIs and sustained delivery is a good thing. In saying that, the first-mover advantage is really important. And I think there's quite a bit of research around what the first mover advantage can be. But it's not just first mover. It's also ease of use and the label. We're confident that if we are approved, we will be approved with a label of every 6 months. And that flexibility to treat patients who may have recurred at 7 months or 8 months with fluid, again, at that point with your drug, I think, is going to be something that's going to be quite helpful to us. Our safety database from the Phase II, very strong. Our safety continues in a mass fashion to match that. So, we also believe that we will come out compared to other potential competitors in the space with a probable safety advantage. So, it's not just the first mover. I think there's a whole package of reasons why we are confident that we will be the leader in drug delivery sustained release in the retina should we be approved for many years.

Operator

Operator

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