Richard L. Schlenker
Analyst
No. We exited the year with these projects stepping -- that are more in this what I would describe as being around 10% range. Maybe a little -- maybe a little bit less than that. Again, the challenge is, David, things become sort of splintered off, which is the good news. I mean, what we -- just a reminder to everybody, what we've talked about over a long period of time is that clearly you have large matters. They have very intense periods of time. They begin to move along. Examples that we used before is that when you look at work that we've done in the automotive industry, where there's a big, large investigation, that issue tends to be a central issue for that industry and that client for many years to come. And as such, our work in that area continues. And hopefully, our relationship with those clients continues going forward. Maybe not at the same level it was during the intense matter, but it continues on. On the environmental side, we were working on Exxon Valdez issues 15, 20 years later, not at the level that we would have been at the onset or in the early years, but again, there are long tails to these matters. In the utility market, it's really about not only helping people with an individual incident but identifying areas for where they can improve their processes and systems and being able to help them with that. And so in each of these areas, we're in different points of transition there. It just means that while it's not going to go from where it was to 0, it's going to settle somewhere in between.
David Gold - Sidoti & Company, LLC: Got you. Okay. And then looking at it a different way, I guess, to your point, Rich, the step-down is something that has come up, I guess, on these conference calls for, I want to say, the last 2 years. How much confidence do you have that we'll truly see some runoff versus maybe more just conservatism as you think about this year's guidance? Or are your -- you're obviously already seeing some movement there. But do you think -- is it more a function of being conservative or are we pretty confident that we're going to see that runoff?