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ExlService Holdings, Inc. (EXLS)

Q4 2013 Earnings Call· Mon, Mar 3, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the EXL Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Jarrod, EXL's Treasurer. Please go ahead, sir.

Jarrod Yahes

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Greetings, and thanks to everyone for joining our fourth quarter and full year 2013 conference call. I'm Jarrod Yahes, EXL's Treasurer. With us today here in New York are Rohit Kapoor, our Vice Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Vishal Chhibbar, Chief Financial Officer. We hope you've had the opportunity to review the fourth quarter and full year financial results press release we issued this morning. We have also updated our investor fact sheet on the Investor Relations section of our website as well as refreshed and updated our Investor Presentation, which also available on EXL's website. Some of the matters we'll discuss in this call are forward-looking. Please keep in mind that these forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, general economic conditions, those factors set forth in today's press release, disclosed in the company's periodic reports and other documents filed with the SEC from time to time. EXL assumes no obligation to update the information presented on this conference call. During our call today, we may reference certain non-GAAP financial disclosures, which we believe provide useful information for investors. As you know, reconciliation of those measures to GAAP can be found in our press release. Now I'll turn the call over to Rohit, our Chief Executive Officer and Vice Chairman. Rohit?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Thank you, Jarrod. Welcome, everyone, to our fourth quarter earnings call. The agenda for this call is as follows: first, I will review our fourth quarter and full year results; second, I will discuss the new client wins we have signed since we last spoke to you and detail a few key priorities for 2014; third, I will give an overview of the current demand environment; then I will turn to Vishal for more detailed commentary on the financials; finally, we would be happy to take your questions. In the fourth quarter of 2013, EXL reported stronger-than-expected revenue and adjusted diluted EPS, driven by excellent results across all our businesses. In particular, our decision analytics business revenue grew 24% year-over-year and 19% quarter-over-quarter. In addition, our platform businesses, EXL Landa, LifePRO and Trumbull, grew well, driven largely by recent new client wins. Higher revenue with operating efficiencies drove 24% adjusted EPS growth year-over-year. Our proactive and transparent client outreach program over the last 3 months has yielded solid results. Our client relationships remain extremely strong and are proceeding as normal. And I will -- as I will detail in my comments, we have won 3 significant deals with new clients since we last spoke. In the last several months, we have proactively accelerated our document protection protocols to ensure we remain a key trusted partner for our clients. We were recently recognized to be among the top 3 companies in our sector by the NASSCOM DSCI Excellence Award for Security and were rated excellent in the Third Cyber Security Mock Drill for 2013. In the fourth quarter, we were pleased by the recognition we received from the industry analyst community. EXL was recently ranked among the top global providers for insurance BPO by research firms, including Everest Group and HfS…

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Thank you, Rohit, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. For the year 2013, we delivered revenues of $478.5 million, up 8% year-over-year or 11% on a constant currency basis, slightly above our last guidance. On a constant currency basis and excluding previously announced client transitions, full year revenue grew 15% year-over-year. In 2013, we deepened our client relationships while simultaneously reducing our client concentration. In 2013, 51 clients generated more than $1 million in revenues, up from 44 in 2012. Also in 2013, no one client generated more than 10% of our total revenues versus one in 2012. Revenue for the fourth quarter of $124.1 million was up 6% year-over-year and 2% sequentially. On a constant currency basis and excluding previously announced client transitions, fourth quarter revenue grew 12% year-over-year and 3% sequentially. On a segment basis, our sourcing revenues grew 8% year-over-year in 2013 to $395 million. Excluding client transitions and a constant currency basis, 2013 revenues increased 16% year-over-year, driven by new existing client growth as well as from our EXL Landa acquisition. In the fourth quarter, our sourcing revenue grew 4.5% year-over-year on a reported basis and 12% on a constant currency basis, excluding previously announced transitioning clients. Driving year-over-year outsourcing growth in the fourth quarter was strong contributions from our platform technology businesses, the Landa, LifePRO and Trumbull, as well as some large clients in our health care and insurance operations management. Over the course of 2013, traction in our platform business accelerated, particularly in our health care vertical. We are similarly encouraged by the 3 significant outsourcing new client wins, as highlighted by Rohit earlier. Transformation services grew 10% year-over-year in 2013 to $84 million. Fourth quarter transformation services grew $24 million -- revenue of $24 million grew 10% year-over-year and 5%…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Dave Koning from Baird. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: I guess, first of all, I just want to make sure on Q4, maybe you can outline the impacts -- you gave the 12% underlying growth, but could you give the dollar impact just of OPI client transition impacts, I guess, year-over-year, then how much Landa revenue was in Q4 and then the FX impact? So those 3 just in Q4, what the revenue impacts were.

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

So if you're trying to get to the organic growth in Q4, is that it, Dave? Is that what you're trying to do? David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Yes.

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Yes. So organic growth in Q4 over Q4 '12 is about -- excluding the client transitions from the OPI clients and on a constant currency basis is about 8.7% or about 9%. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Got you, okay. So Landa was about 3% to the quarter?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Correct. Landa was about 3%. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Got you. Okay, great. And then when we look into 2014, I guess, the -- you gave the impact of the client loss of $12 million to $20 million, so that's about 3% to 4%. Would you expect the other 5% to 6% then to impact 2015 basically to come out of 2015?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Yes. So there are 2 factors which are impacting the balance. One is the foreign exchange, which is about 1.5% to 2%. And also, the other client will be the balance contributor.

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Look, Dave, this is Rohit, I think if you're talking about the client that is transitioning out, we expect that transition to take place over a period of up to 18 months. And in 2014, the impact is estimated to be between $12 million and $20 million and the balance impact will be in 2015. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Yes. Okay, that definitely make sense. And I guess, finally, a couple of other small ones. I guess what's the OPI impact that you expect now in 2014?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

The transition impact from the OPI client would be about 3%. 2.5% to 3%. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. So no real change there?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Yes. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: And then last, are there any -- other than the finishing up the buyback in Q1, is there any kind of thought on doing more buybacks, and anything else in guidance or is guidance just inclusive of kind of finishing up the current plan in Q1?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Dave, our current authorization is for $25 million, of which we have executed on a stock buyback of $21 million. We will remain flexible in terms of how to use our capital and we remain committed to doing acquisitions. And doing stock buybacks if -- that's a much more appropriate use of our cash balance.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Joseph Foresi from Janney capital markets.

Joseph D. Foresi - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst

I was wondering if you could give us some idea on what you think the margin profile is going to look like as the client starts to transition over the next 12 to 18 months?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Joe, this is Rohit. As you know, we do not disclose client profitability and we will not be discussing the client profitability of any client.

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

But Joe, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the margin profile for our portfolio, for the company as a whole, we would expect to be similar as what we have in 2013.

Joseph D. Foresi - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And -- okay. And then just on the environment, the large deal signings, obviously, are encouraging, and it sounded like you thought the demand environment was getting better. What has changed in the environment and how are the negotiations with the new and present client base with the large client transition taking place?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Sure. So Joe, our view of this is that the demand has been strong throughout. It isn't necessarily that the demand has increased or decreased. I think it's been fairly stable. What has changed is the signing up of new clients. And for us, that is something which has all got bunched up together. And despite us signing up some new clients, I think the maturity of our pipeline remains strong and the volume of our pipeline remains strong. So for us, it continues to feel like these are long tailed sales cycles and sometimes the signing up of clients can be a bit lumpy. And that's certainly something which we have experienced in 2013. And for us, some of the large client wins signings got bunched up into the fourth quarter of last year.

Joseph D. Foresi - Janney Montgomery Scott LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Got it, okay. Last question for me, do you think that there's been any change in the core industry growth rate? And are you experiencing any changes in the competitive environment?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

So I think in terms of the long term growth rate of this industry, we continue to remain very, very bullish about it. There are a few factors which continue to impact this industry. Number one is whenever there is currency depreciation, I think the reported currency growth rate is going to reduce because of the normalization of the currency impact. There's also a continued focus in this industry to maintain a blend of captives versus third-party operations, and I think that continues. But the underlying fundamental secular demand for these services continues to remain strong, and I think participants like EXL continue to benefit from it. The nature of competition certainly changed a few years back but, in the recent past, there hasn't been any further change to it. And I think, again, EXL certainly has learned how to deal with the new competition that came in and we feel very confident of our ability to win our fair share of business in this market environment.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar from Citi.

Ashwin Shirvaikar - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

So I guess, my question is at the midpoint of the range, we are looking for, looks like roughly, let's call it, 3% growth and you said sticking margins, and there's a buyback that you've done which should be beneficial to EPS. So I'm kind of looking for the offset that's taking EPS back down.

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Ashwin, this is Vishal. I think the offset will be -- points you highlighted are 3 factors. One is, as I mentioned, our tax rate will be going up year-over-year. That will impact our EPS. Number two, we talked about that there are certain transitioning costs which we are -- already factored into our -- this year's EPS guidance. And number three, there is the change of our portfolio mix due to the transitioning clients, which will also impact our overall bottom line number.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Jason Kupferberg from Jefferies.

Jason Kupferberg - Jefferies LLC, Research Division

Analyst

I just wanted to talk a little bit about the employees who are currently assigned to the big contract that's de-converting. I think it's upwards of 2,000 or so. Can you just talk a little bit about operationally, how you're planning to have those folks reassigned? Obviously, you want to try to manage your utilization as well as possible. And do you expect to have to take any standalone charges related to the contract de-conversion, either this year or next?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Yes, Jason. We continue to work with our clients in terms of managing the transition. On our part, we continue to grow our business very well with our other clients. And I think, for us, the opportunity to redeploy the resources is strong. We've chosen to continue to build on the people resources and the talent that we have within the organization. And we'll do whatever is the most appropriate action for our employees and for our company and for our clients. So we continue to be on that part. There's nothing more specific that I could share with you on that.

Jason Kupferberg - Jefferies LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. But I guess, just directionally, we should probably expect to see overall utilization come down this year? Is that fair or is that not necessarily the case?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

That could be a possibility, there could be a transition that might be involved. But it's not going to be something which is very significant or very material.

Jason Kupferberg - Jefferies LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. And then just turning to the new business angle, obviously, encouraging to hear some of the new wins. And then I think you indicated that in 2013, your percent of revenues or the growth in revenues from new clients, I think you said was up about 40%. Based on what you see in terms of these newer wins ramping, what type of growth rate is -- could we potentially see from new clients in 2014?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

So our expectation is that we will continue to see a stable to an increasing contribution from new clients because we've already signed up a few significant large clients towards the end of 2013. We would expect our outsourcing revenues coming from new clients to increase significantly year-over-year. And then for our platform businesses and for our transformation business, those are more project-based pieces, and we'll see how the year progresses and we'll be able to provide more color on that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Manish Hemrajani from Oppenheimer.

Kunal Doctor

Analyst

This is Kunal Doctor on behalf of Manish. Okay, how should we see hiring, basically, employee erosion in 2014, and what utilization rate you are targeting right now?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Kunal, this is Rohit. We typically do not target a utilization rate for our employees. What we do is, for our operations management or outsourcing business, typically, our clients will sign up with adequate lead times and the hiring is done in accordance with those lead times, and it's pretty much just-in-time hiring that takes place. For our transformation business, particularly for decision analytics, we will do campus recruitments once a year where we make significant investments in hiring. But the numbers there are meaningfully smaller and, typically, we will hire anywhere between 300 to 400 graduates from colleges in India to bulk up our pool of talent in the analytics business. But other than that, we really don't plan for any utilization rate of our employees.

Kunal Doctor

Analyst

All right. And what percentage of wage hikes should we expect in 2014?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

We haven't actually gone ahead with that cycle right now. So we -- the implementation of that cycle typically for us is on 1st of April, and that will determine it. Based on everything that we're seeing with our -- the industry, the marketplace, the geography, our competitors, we think the wage hikes this year will be comparable to the ones that we saw last year.

Kunal Doctor

Analyst

All right. And just last one, what -- how many more new clients would it take to reach to the top end of the guidance?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

I think the top end of the guidance factors in growth from the clients that we've signed up, growth from existing clients and some new clients to be brought in. I think for us, typically, we factor a very small number of revenue from additional new clients who are unknown to us at this point of time. So it's always a relatively small number that is there. The big difference is going to be how our existing clients scale up and how our clients that we've signed up -- and the pace of ramp with those.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from David Grossman from Stifel. David M. Grossman - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Sorry, I hopped on a few minutes late. So I just wanted to clarify a couple of quick points. First is on the 8% to 13%, I think it was organic constant currency growth for 2014. That was x the transitions from both OPI and the other major customer, is that -- did I get that right?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

David, that's correct. David M. Grossman - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. And in terms of the runoff then, if you're assuming, I think the number was down a little bit, $12 million to $20 million, for the de-conversion in '14, does that imply then you would lose another $12 million to $20 million in '15 as well?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Yes, David, the expectation would be that the balance revenue would be declining down to zero in 2015 because, basically, we expect the transition to be completed in a period of up to 18 months. David M. Grossman - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Right. So Rohit, do you expect to get close to that run rate by the end of this year or do you think it's going to be a fairly linear runoff based on what you're seeing right now?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

We are quite unsure of how that might play out and have no real estimate on that, David. David M. Grossman - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. And then, Rohit, you talked about some changes in your go-to-market strategy or, I guess, an evolution of that strategy. And I was just curious, have there been any kind of incremental personnel added to facilitate those changes or is it really just reorganizing the existing sales and marketing function?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

So for us, we've basically reorganized the existing team. There are a few areas that we have made conscious investments in. In our healthcare business, we've added on, as you know, a Chief Medical Officer. We're now on the process of bringing on a Chief Actuary for our healthcare business. In our analytics business, we've been hiring dedicated sales and engagement managers dedicated to analytics sales, and we've been doing that for the last couple of years and we continue to make additions out there. So we keep making investments that will make us better domain experts in the areas that we are serving our clients. David M. Grossman - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. And then just perhaps, Vishal, on some of the below the line pro forma adjustments. What should -- how should stock-based comp trend in '14 versus '13?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

I think the stock comp would remain more or less the same as 2013 in terms of as a percentage of revenues. David M. Grossman - Stifel, Nicolaus & Company, Incorporated, Research Division: Okay. And just to make sure I got the numbers right, was it about $12 million in 2013?

Vishal Chhibbar

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Puneet Jain from JPMorgan.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is Puneet from [indiscernible]. Rohit, you talked about this -- you have talked about return on outsourcing in the past and some of your peers also talk about measuring value to clients from outsourcing beyond cost arbitrage. Could you talk about how your new EXLerator Framework is different and how it could help clients -- how it could change clients' perception towards outsourcing?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Sure, Puneet, and thanks for asking that question. In 2013, our return on outsourcing was at 30%. This was above our target and above the level that we were able to achieve in 2012, which was closer to 20%. The Business EXLerator framework allows us to provide significant additional business impact to our customers. And particularly, for new clients that we are starting out or for new processes that we are undertaking, it allows us to be able to provide a return, which could be up to 5x what we might have been able to provide traditionally. And therefore, the opportunity for us to engage with clients on an end-to-end basis and provide them with a significant amount of impact upfront in our journey and our relationship is very significant. So we do think that that's going to be a differentiating factor for us as we go forward.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Understood. Great to see 3 significant wins. Could you talk about regional mix of those deals? And what are you doing in Europe to expand business there?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Sure. For us, the 3 wins have actually been in the U.S. However, as we mentioned in our call, we have a couple of clients where we are now finalizing legal contracts with, and some of those clients are in the U.K.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

And last one from me. Sales and marketing was 7.6% of revenue in 2013. So is that at a place where you would like it to be or does it have potential to go up higher?

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

We actually think that that's an appropriate level of investment on our front end. And while there might be some changes within the mix that we deploy, we think, in percentage of our revenue, it's at an appropriate level.

Operator

Operator

And I'm not showing any further questions. I would now like to turn the call back to CEO, Rohit Kapoor, for any further remarks.

Rohit Kapoor

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call. We seem to have exited 2013 very strongly and are very excited about 2014. We look forward to working with our clients and continuing to deliver value to them and building and growing our business. We look forward to you joining us on the call for the next quarter, sometime after the end of the first quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude today's program. You may all disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.