Welcome to the Evolent Earnings Conference Call for the Quarter Ending June 30, 2023. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Your host for the call today from Evolent are Seth Blackley, Chief Executive Officer; and John Johnson, Chief Financial Officer. This call will be archived and available later this evening and for the next week via the webcast on the company’s website in the section entitled Investor Relations. I will now hand the call to Seth Frank, Evolent’s Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, and good evening. This conference call will contain forward-looking statements under the U.S. federal laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical experience or present expectations. A description of some of the risks and uncertainties can be found in the company’s reports that are filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including cautionary statements included in our current and periodic filings. For additional information on the company’s results and outlook, please refer to our second quarter press release issued earlier today. Finally, as a reminder, reconciliations of non-GAAP measures discussed during today’s call to the most direct comparable GAAP measures are available in the summary presentation available in the Investor Relations section of our website or in the company’s press release issued today and posted on the Investor Relations section of the company’s website ir.evolenthealth.com and Form 8-K filed by the company with the SEC earlier today. During management’s presentation and discussion will reference certain GAAP and non-GAAP figures and metrics that can be found in our earnings release as well as a summary presentation available on the Events section of Evolent’s IR website, ir.evolenthealth.com. And now with that, I’ll turn the call over to Evolent’s CEO, Seth Blackley.

Good evening, and thanks for joining us. We’re pleased to be here to discuss another strong quarter of execution against our plan. As context for today’s call, I want to reiterate three key elements of that plan. First, organic growth driven by a conviction that our integrated value-based specialty management approach is a winning strategy for both attracting new clients and expanding with existing clients. Second, our ability to drive earnings expansion given the operating leverage and margin maturation inherent in our business. And third, our commitment to cash generation and thoughtful balance sheet management, including delevering. I think you’ll see our results this quarter affirm all three elements of this plan, and then we’ve taken another step towards our target of $300 million of adjusted EBITDA exiting next year with continued sales momentum thereafter. Turning to the quarter. Second quarter revenue was at the high end of our outlook for the quarter, while adjusted EBITDA came in right above the midpoint. Specifically, strong revenue growth was driven by substantial organic membership growth both quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. Our profit growth year-on-year was driven by the high flow-through margins from incremental technology and services, fee-based business, continued maturation of our Performance Suite portfolio, acquired revenue from NIA plus initial benefits from our integration work. Given the results for the quarter and our visibility for the remainder of 2023, we are raising the midpoint of our 2023 adjusted EBITDA outlook. For revenue, we are maintaining our 2023 outlook based on the timing of several significant client go-lives across quarters three and four. John will provide more detail as well as the third quarter outlook shortly. As part of the guide for the remainder of the year, we anticipate continued growth from the Humana Performance Suite announced this past January. That contract went…

Thanks, Seth. As you see in our release this afternoon, our operating focus and discipline continue to translate into financial results that are at or better than our targets. Let me go through those targets now before turning to the detailed numbers. First, we said we’d drive significant organic growth. As Seth highlighted earlier, specialty revenue for the quarter is up approximately 32% year-on-year, excluding acquisitions. We’re excited about this growth engine. Second, we identified cross-selling new solutions into existing customers as one of our primary objectives to drive growth. We’re excited to announce some early returns on this strategy and the partnership expansions that Seth outlined, and we continue to be enthusiastic about the integrated specialty model we are taking to market. Third, we expect earnings expansion on our current book of capitation business as we implement our value-based initiatives with new populations. We continue to see steady improvements in Performance Suite populations that went live in 2021 and 2022. Our second quarter revenue number includes more than $200 million in annualized Performance Suite revenue that has been under management for less than a year. These new populations contribute minimally to our second quarter earnings, but represent more than $25 million in annual earnings opportunity at maturity. Fourth, we are focused on turning EBITDA into cash. During the second quarter, we added $5 million to our available cash balance, which was impacted by collection timing. The net of increases in our AR and claims reserve consumed about $34 million of cash during the quarter. In fact, we received over $40 million in catchup payments from customers during July. Excluding these working capital fluctuations, we would’ve added $39 million of available cash in the quarter. Note that consistent with our plan, we are investing incremental resources this year in integrating…

[Operator Instructions] The first question today comes from Jeff Garro with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Yes. Good afternoon and thanks for taking the questions. Maybe following-up on Seth’s comments about positive feedback on the rebranding efforts. I imagine it’s just the kind of initial stage of several future steps to roll out the brand and then also the integrated go-to-market approach and later on technology. So was hoping you could give a little bit more color on where the next steps might be to really help clients and prospects understand the power of the combined platform?

Yes. Thanks, Jeff. Look, I think the key to the topic is really around the underlying operations and the technology, and therefore, the integration that we can provide back to patients. And as we go around talk to customers and prospects, that’s what certainly what the market wants. And so the first step was communicating that really clearly at Investor Day and over the last couple months, as we said, around our strategic product focus. And we’re now out having those conversations, I’d say directly with our prospects and clients. So that’s kind of the phase we’re in right now, all the while of course the technology integration’s going on underneath. And so I think we’re kind of in the phase of direct communication to clients, which is going really well and they love the vision and love the platform that we’ve put together. And then the technology actually getting fully stitched together underneath is kind of the final step.

Got it. Thanks. That helps. And maybe a follow-up there with a little more specifics. Already seen some of the kind of positive fruits of that work and you announced this regional not-for-profit health plan win in the quarter. Curious to get a little more detail there. Maybe what the key drivers were in their decision making? What key lines of businesses they’re exposed to? And what specialty specifically you’ll be addressing for them? Thanks.

Great. Yes, look, it’s like a lot of situations with any regional plan. I think the buying criteria are similar, which are return on investment and the ability to kind of commit to savings to the organization is certainly going to be high on the list. And that comes with credibility and experience and referenceability and the like. The second thing though is that we can – as we have completed acquisitions and begin to integrate our components able to stitch together multiple products and offer those in a more integrated fashion. And so I think it’s really those – the combination of those two things that worked in that case. One of the other announcements we made today, I think had a similar theme to it. And if I looked at the pipeline more broadly, you didn’t ask about that. I think that’s just a big theme in general, which is we’re seeing an acceleration in the pipeline based on our ability to talk about multiple specialties across multiple lines of business, which is the case for this plan. And I think it’s going to be a big theme, which is it’s going to be commercial, Medicare, Medicaid, multiple specialties that’s going to be something you see a lot of.

Makes sense. Thanks again, I’ll hop back in the queue.

The next question comes from Sean Dodge with RBC Capital. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thanks. Good afternoon. There was a lot of new business activity that you walked through Seth. Maybe just to help put it all into perspective, bridge into your $300 million EBITDA target from where you expect to end this year. About half of that, you’ve said before you anticipated to come from new wins. If we kind of take the four that you’ve announced today, can you give us some sense of how you’re tracking toward that? It sounds like maybe potentially running a bit better at least up to this point than you thought.

Yes. Look, I think the way I would answer it in general is that I’d say we’re certainly on track for that $300 million overall and the $50 million piece of that, which is around new business. And I think this quarter helps a lot. Even the ones that are not technically new operating agreements that are cross sales help a lot because even though they may not be huge in and of themselves is really high flow through on these. So I think what we were attempting to communicate in the tone and certainly in this answer is that we feel like we’re certainly on plan for the $300 million.

Okay, great. And then in the Performance Suite, you mentioned now seeing any indication of higher cost trends in your data. Can you give us just a quick refresher on if you were to see some type of spike or elevated trajectory. Do you have some contractual levers available to you? How often are you able to reprice those? Kind of what kind of protections I guess do you have if you were to see things start to pick up?

Yes. Sean, it’s John and I’ll take that one. I would think of this in two ways. The first and it’s an important distinction in our risk-bearing business versus a broad-based MCO or a risk-bearing provider, where nearly everything that we take risk on in the Performance Suites is pre-auth. And so we have very good visibility into those auth rates and the likely impact, right, in future claims. So that’s the first thing that I’d say is we would generally speaking be able to know or see that earlier than we would if we were just waiting for claims completion. The second piece, as we think about how we contract for this business, we will typically include things like a corridor around, say, cancer prevalence. And so if prevalence in a population moves up or down outside of that corridor, then the parties will come back to the table and adjust the rate accordingly. So that’s an important part of the model. And I think it’s also important to recall that we can have some visibility into that potentially happening before we see it in the claims.

Okay. That’s super helpful. Thanks again.

The next question comes from Ryan Daniels with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Yes, guys, thanks for taking the questions. Wanted to start with a little bit on the pipeline as it relates specifically to the potential for more Medicare business, which I think is a little under a third of your book today. So Seth, you talked about some of the pressures that some might be facing there with increased surgical utilization, and then we have the lower MA rates and risk adjustment pressures for 2024. And I’m curious if that is accelerating the pipeline as more and more payers are turning to you to help them manage their MLR, what could be kind of a more challenging outlook for 2024 and 2025?

Hey, Ryan, the answer is yes. It is moving the pipeline in a good way for us. And I think the – it is the general pressure on MLR around utilization. I think the risk adjustment piece is maybe equally important in the sense that I do think that lever has been reduced a little bit. And so I was talking to one of our customers a couple months ago and he said exactly that, which is, we’re going to have to attack utilization a little bit more aggressively without that lever or with that lever being a little bit reduced, right? So I think the answer is yes, we’re seeing it as we said in the script today, it’s feeling positive in the pipeline, and I think the combination of that pressure, but also the broader set of solutions that we can offer Tech Services model, Performance Suite model, multiple lines of business, multiple specialties gives us a lot of different ways to create win-win partnerships with our clients and prospects. So it feels pretty good, Ryan.

Okay. Perfect. And then John, maybe one for you just on Medicaid redeterminations. I want to make sure I heard you correctly. Can you just go through the impact that you are contemplating in the guidance regarding churn and revenue impact? And then, maybe number two, it sounds like some states have paused redeterminations and a couple plans have indicated that maybe it’s progressing a little bit better. So, net-net is it right in line with what you’re thinking or maybe a little bit better? Thanks.

Yes. So our thinking on this hasn’t changed, so I’ll give our expectation for this year and then also for into next year when the redeterminations are complete. For this year, we anticipate a gross reduction in Medicaid membership of between 8% to 10% comparing end of last December to end of this December, which is about we think two-thirds of the way there ending with total redetermination impact on a growth basis probably middle of next year in the mid-teens. On the speed question, I think what I wanted to highlight in my prepared remarks there was the amount of our revenue that really just started redeterminations four weeks ago, five weeks ago. And so it’s still too early for us on our populations to see is it going slower or faster than expected. What I would say is we’ve been encouraged both in talking to our partners and in hearing some of the MCO announcements over the last couple of weeks at the way both CMS and the Managed Care organizations are working to ensure that Medicaid enrollees stay enrolled where they’re eligible.

Okay, perfect. That’s very helpful clarification. Thank you.

Thanks Ryan.

The next question comes from Charles Rhyee with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thanks for taking the questions and then congrats on the quarter. Maybe if we think about the pathway to the $300 million, obviously we have a lot of moving parts here with new – with like the Humana partnership kind of ramping up and some of the new partnerships you signed. Can you give us a sense of timing on when you – when we should start expect some of these to start hitting? I know with Humana ramping, it sounds like you’re saying starting here in the third quarter more with EBITDA contribution coming more next year. The new – and the new – sorry, tech and services partnership that you announced, when would that you expect that one to start? Is that would be one of next year or is that sometime this year as well? Maybe just for some of the new ones a sense of timing where we should start to expect contribution either both from top line and EBITDA, that’d be great.

Yes. So on the – let take those in turn. I’m going to focus first on EBITDA and then I’ll circle back to growth. As you think about the path to $300 million, one of the things that we’ve sought to communicate there is, if you look at our TTM EBITDA today of $158 million add in the remainder of the acquired EBITDA then you’d see a pro forma EBITDA of about $190 million. On top of that, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we have a couple hundred million dollars of new Performance Suite revenue that’s live today that is not really contributing in that $190 million. And so that is going to add by the time we’re exiting next year north of $25 million of flow through down to the EBITDA line. Now you start to stack up on top of that some of these announcements that we’ve made, the Humana relationship going live, which will be generating EBITDA probably mid next year. The series of T&S deals. And I think one thing that you’ll see from us, Charles is, an announcement like today with a number of partnerships is an important piece of the path to $300 million, right? Because while these partnerships are strong margin partnerships, we can add a lot of value to the clients and they can enhance our EBITDA. They don’t have a lot of top line. They tend to be pretty small given the PMPMs. So that’s how I would think about it in terms of where are we starting pro forma today of about $190 million, how are we adding from there based on the current Performance Suite book, and then adding on top of that to the $300 million. And the last thing just to be [indiscernible] is the rollout of the NIA synergies that we talked about at the time of that deal which is $35 million in total.

Okay. And then I guess, to follow-up on the question about redeterminations, I think in particular, Illinois is a big one, and that started July 1st. Any kind of sense that you’ve gotten there on the progress or lack of progress perhaps. Are they one of the states that are taking into consideration sort of the procedural issues?

They certainly seem to be, yes. I think if you read some of the notes that have come out of the state government and health agencies it seems to us that they’re taking a very deliberate approach there to support their citizens. It’s also too early to see in the numbers.

Okay. Fair enough. I’m sorry, just one follow-up on another question. I think Sean asked about sort of the acuity in how you would see it. You talked about leading indicators. How early would those – in those leading indicators, would you be able to notice something changing? I know you talked about seeing the pre-ops, but maybe any other factors that would give you some lead time in seeing changes? Thanks.

That’s going to be the big one, Charles, because that contains a lot of information, right? It’s not just the information around the requested treatments, but it’s also what’s the diagnosis, what’s the history of disease and all of those different factors. So that’s an inclusive set of information.

Okay. Great. Thanks a lot.

The next question comes from David Larsen with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Hi. Can you talk a little bit about Bright Health? Like how much revenue is coming from that in 2023? And then I think Molina is buying a significant portion of them. Are you going to recapture that revenue through Molina in 2024? Any color there would be very helpful. Thank you.

Yes. So on Bright, we’ve indicated an expectation for total revenue this year between $30 million and $40 million that is related to the wind down of their IFP lives and not related to any of their Medicare Advantage lives, which is a plan that Molina is purchasing. It said that is a plan that we had not done any work with.

Okay. That’s great. Thanks. And then can you maybe talk a little bit more about the expansion with Molina in Florida and that Medicaid book and that process, just any more color there? And then are other states looking at that, and I mean, does that increase your odds of winning business in like, Texas, for example Medicaid?

Yes, David, it’s Seth. I can take that one. It’s a lot like the other six states that came before Florida, and it’s really a process of working with the local leadership to build confidence around our ability to drive savings and the internal reference ability within the other states in the markets, which we got to continue to perform. And I think each time we add a state, it’s good evidence that we’re delivering on our commitments. And I think it will be the same for states eight, nine and beyond. And look, we’re pretty heads down focused on execution. We feel like we do a good job for our clients. This is what comes out of the back of it, and we feel really good about that partnership and continuing to deliver a lot of value, David, on it. I do think the Medicaid piece in Florida would be a potential interesting opportunity for other Medicaid plans in the state for that arrangement beyond Molina. So there’s a couple of different reasons we’re excited about that announcement.

Okay, great. Thanks. Congrats on a good quarter.

Thanks David.

The next question comes from Sandy Draper with Guggenheim. Please go ahead.

Thanks very much. I think most of the failing operational questions have already been asked. So maybe, John, a financial one, thinking about a couple of my other companies have recently started talking about refinancing, which is kind of interesting because Feds just raised rates but it’s because their financial conditions were getting better, their leverage is coming down. And their comment was the debt markets are actually playing a little better. I’m not a certainly a debt analyst or a debt banker, but would love to hear your thoughts about the potential to refinance. Are there certain either leverage metrics that hit triggers were like, okay, if we get to this leverage ratio, we could do it, rates start to tick down. I’m just trying to think about that opportunity and how we would think about tracking what the timing might be on that opportunity? Thanks.

Yes. It’s a good question, Sandy. We really seek to balance and optimize three things as we’re contemplating potentially refinancing cash interest, total leverage and dilution of the common, right. And so as we sit and look at it today, if you pro forma in the acquired – the rest of the acquired EBITDA, we’re sitting at about 2.7x net levered. And we are committed to maximizing and optimizing those three things. So we see an opportunity to refinance into something that is cheaper than absolutely would contemplate doing that. If it was the right thing to do for those other two metrics, leverage and dilution of the common.

Got it. That’s helpful. And that was my only question. Congrats on the good quarter.

Thanks Sandy. Appreciate it.

The next question comes from Jessica Tassan with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. So first, I wanted to just come back to your comment around Humana starting to generate adjusted EBITDA in the second half of 2024. Can you just help us understand kind of the margin trajectory of Performance Suite deals maybe in their first six months and then their second six months post launch?

Yes. You got it. So what we’ve typically indicated right is an expectation that at go-live and for the first couple of quarters, as you look at your claims expense and watching the claims complete, your claims expense has a lot of IBNR in it. And so you’re building for those first couple of quarters, the IBNR stack, and on a reported basis, you’re not generating a lot of earnings. As those claims complete, the IBNR comes down, then you would have a natural release of that initial actuarial conservatism that then translates into what we’ve typically indicated for the first full year of a Performance Suite arrangement between 4% and 6% of the total profits down to the bottom line. So that’s how I think about it. Quite little in the first couple of quarters and then ramping up, and is that three quarters , is it five quarters, that’s going to spend a lot on the specific partnership with specific geography and so forth. But that is the way that we see it playing out.

Got it. That’s fair. And then that’s really helpful. And then I was just hoping maybe you could describe any changes you’ve seen lately in the competitive landscape for the tech-enabled solutions, specifically, mostly interested to understand if some recent controversy around the competitors’ prior authorization algorithm that’s created an opportunity for you guys into 2024?

Yes, Jess. I mean, I would just say, in general, without commenting on the specific situation. Like just in general, I think our model tends to be highly clinical in nature, right. That’s been our differentiation point from the beginning, which is really more around pathways and I think we talked last quarter about the satisfaction rate of oncologists using our platform being really high. And I think just in general, we tend to differentiate based on being more clinical and being more physician friendly. And I think added to that, our ability to offer multiple specialties, Jess, I think we feel like the competitive environment is a little more attractive for us now than it was six months ago, 12 months ago. And I think it’s really based on less what others are doing and more what we’re doing. And that’s really how we’re focused is continuing to meet the market where they are and listen to our customers, voice of customers, core part of how we run the company. And I think we continue both in terms of the product that we’re delivering also some of the innovation things that we talked about today. Patients with AI, we can have a longer conversation about it. But I think that’s going to be the determinant of our competitive landscape is our ability to execute, and we’re going to stay pretty focused on what we can do to control it, and we feel really good about it.

Got it. And that’s helpful. And then my last one would just be, can you offer an updated stat on the percent of your NCH Performance Suite live or I’m sorry, the Evolent Performance Suite live that are covered by a vital vision solution or have access to advanced care planning. And that’s it for me. Thanks.

Hi Jess, we haven’t disclosed that. It’s an important piece of our integrated portfolio, right, as we’re both ramping into existing clients and including in new sales, but we’re not breaking out the specific mix.

All right, thank you.

Thanks Jess.

The next question comes from Richard Close with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Yes, thanks for the questions. Maybe just building on Jess’ question and your answer to Ryan, with respect to saying attack the utilization, I’m curious with the increased press on utilization management and then calling it out in Medicaid here recently over the last week or so. Based on your clinical, I guess, being more clinical, are you seeing that accelerate the pipeline in terms of people deciding to switch out the old utilization management and go with the more clinical focus that you guys are offering?

Yes, Richard, I do think that it has always been the core of our differentiation and will continue to be the core of our differentiation. And when we talk today about things like patient navigation is a new product that we’re developing, right. That takes us further down that path. And the more you do directly with the patient and the family, the less you have to think about utilization management because you’re sort of doing what I would call shared decision-making rather than a utilization management model. So it has always been our differentiation. I think it is helping, and it has always helped. I think we’re pushing that boundary further with the things that we talked about today. And AI would go down the same vector, right, AI, which we did not talk a lot about on the call and we’ll talk about in the future is a lot about reducing operation and doing things in an automated fashion. And so we’re going to – we intend to lead on that front across all these different areas, and we’re really pushing as quickly as we can down a lot of different vectors. And I do think the underlying issue and frustration that you’re articulating is an opportunity for us.

And just as a follow-up, is it portend, I guess, maybe an acceleration in the adoption of the Performance Suite versus maybe just tech and services?

It’s a good question. I don’t know if I could forecast it one way or the other on that front. I think the way we’ve thought about the business, I don’t feel a huge shift in mix right now. It’s a fair bit of growth on both sides, Richard. And I think it tends to be a little bit more client specific as so they need to guarantee or are they okay with the tech services platform.

Okay, thank you.

You’re welcome.

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Jailendra Singh with Truist. Please go ahead.

Thank you and thanks for taking my question. Actually, first quick kind of clarifying question on Molina partnership in Florida. I believe you said like 100,000 Medicare lives at typical Medicaid PMPM. Our understanding is Molina has close to 175,000 lives. Maybe they include duals and long-term care lives there, maybe those are not part of the contract? And if so, do those remain a future opportunity for you guys? And any color on PMPM for exchange lives? Is that comparable to Medicaid PMPMs?

Yes. Two things there, Jailendra, we only do Performance Suite for adults, not peds. That’s likely the distinction. I would also say that as we think about this for next year, of course, we are including an allowance for redetermination impact, right. So those two things are important. As you look at aggregate size of that potential partnership, we would scope it likely over $20 million at top line.

Okay. Exchange PMPM, how much is that?

We typically don’t do that granular. That gets pretty nuanced, Jailendra.

Okay, all right. Maybe in my follow-up on the comments around oncology cost trends. Clearly, you guys have seen pretty stable trends. But as you pointed out, some commentaries have been pretty mixed from some entities. Have you guys done any analysis on the cancer screening data for your population, which keeps you comfort that you never saw screening go down. So any such cost is unlikely to pick up in the future? And a quick follow-up on your earlier comment that you had corridor around your prevalence of cancer rates. But are there any protection around the acuity mix, like more late-stage cancer cases versus early stage cancer cases?

Let me try to take those in turn. On screening, we don’t take risk on screenings and so don’t tend to have access to that data. What we do have access to is both in conversations with our partners and broad-based research, the report that Epic put out, for example, back in February, indicated what we have seen and we’ve heard from our partners, which is the cancer screenings, in particular, in Medicare, Medicaid have been at sort of normal rates for quite some time. And so that to us is pretty definitive. And it’s consistent with what we’re seeing in our data around aggregate prevalence and acuity. On the second question, the answer is yes. The specifics, as you can imagine, in a risk contract like this get pretty nuanced around specifically how we work with our partner to ensure that we’re fairly sharing the value that we’re creating as a population might shift over time. And so the headline just as we talked about corridors around prevalence and other items is that we’re seeking to drive aligned partnerships with risk-bearing health plans. And that model to-date has generated both significant profits and significant growth.

Okay. And then my final question on your MSSP business. CMS came out with some changes in their proposal under financial fee schedule. It looks like they’re encouraging more ACO participation. Can you talk about your thoughts on the changes included in the proposal and does that change your view on how you plan to approach your MSSP business next year? And on the same topic, any visibility on improvement in MSSP savings for 2022 plan year and expectations this year?

Let me take that last one. Seth, maybe you can talk about how we’re integrating this into the broader strategy. But on – so on the fee schedule, Jailendra, there’s a bunch of stuff in there. That is net positive for primary care, inclusive of the ACO programs. So that’s good, and that should be supportive of growth, both our ACO and of that the overall product line. As we think about the share savings for 2022 at this point in the year, we typically have pretty good sense and line of sight into what that might be and have, of course, incorporated that into our guidance. Seth, do you want to talk about the strategy?

Yes. I’d just say in general, Jailendra, business is performing well, as John said, and we feel good about it. And things are top and bottom line feel good for this year, as John said, baked into the numbers. I think as you go forward and you go back to IR day and look at how we talked about the focus of the business, we have $150 billion TAM in the specialty side of the business, largely with private payers. And a lot of what we’re doing, whether it’s with formerly known as IPG, formerly known as Vital, Evolent Care Partners is stitching a lot of things together to go to serve payers’ needs in a more integrated fashion. So I think going forward, you’re going to hear us talk a little bit less about Evolent Care Partners as an entity and ACO is a thing by itself, while it’s still important, what we’re really thinking about is the $150 billion TAM, which integrating specialty and primary care is interesting. And the things we can do for that, but that shows up less as an ACO and more in direct contracts with private payers, right. So I think just sort of setting the table for future quarters, that’s really going to be how we think about whether, again, it’s formerly known as IPG, formerly known as Vital, ECP, you’re going to really hear a lot more about just Evolent and how we’re stitching all of it together.

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Thanks Jailendra.

That concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Seth Blackley for any closing remarks.

All right. Thanks for joining us tonight. We look forward to connecting with everybody out on the road. Have a good night.

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