Sure, again, keep in mind that we're just thinking in terms of everyday Mark what we do, right. I mean, everyone kind of views us just as the MI company, right. And we're out just, you know, handing out [indiscernible] to lenders and getting loans. But it's way more complicated than that. I mean, we're integrated with all the vendors so whether it's Ellie Mae, Optimal Blue, other loan origination systems, you know, [Blue Sage], you name it, we're integrated, and we work with them, you know, pretty much on a day-to-day basis, especially as we're evolving EssentEDGE, right. We're now on our second version of EssentEDGE, we're connected to all the servicers. So, we understand that part of the business well, and also, as I mentioned, in previous calls, we've invested in approximately 10 venture FinTech farms over the last, I want to say 24 months to 30 months. And with our investments in those funds, we have looked through and I want to say 250 to 300 type companies. So, we own [indiscernible], a lot of the names that you see that are getting [stacked today] or going public, and we've known them, you know, for years. So that's all the way from kind of the iBuyer market all the way down to servicing. So, we feel like we're in a really good position and we understand a lot of these company's strengths and their weaknesses. And I think we bring a few things to the table. We clearly bring kind of capital and liquidity, which I think helps especially provide growth capital to these firms. We also bring operational expertise around how to start a business early and grow it. I think we've done a pretty good job with that. I think our view on it is and it's why we have a longer term view, you know the valuations in some of those areas are a bit frothy right now. So, I think as we continue to look at it, you know, an investor's greatest strength is time. And our view is, we own this business for the long-term. And we believe we will have the ability to put that capital to work to continue to expand the Essent franchise. We're not going to do it small, we're going to do things that we think really kind of moves the needle, but again, if something as an investor we'll continue to look at, and we'll continue to, you know update the market as we see things.