I'll defer the commentary on 2017 and 2018 just until we get a little further or closer to that, but just, Jim, relative to sequentially, let's start there: Q3 which we just reported and how we look at Q4. John asked what was the sales mood between and I think we indicated it was a couple million dollars, and so you're going to see a sequential Q3 to Q4 at Doble of that at least $2 million and then you get the normal fourth quarter stuff. So we fully rationalized that step up so moving that thing up $2 million to $3 million to $4 million, Q3 to Q4 -- the nice part of that, it brings along a lot of margin through that as well, so that addresses that. On the test side, as Vic indicated, looking at what we're doing Q3 to Q4, it's very consistent with what we did last year, when fourth quarter carried probably 33% of the volume. The one thing I think we did to be prudent is to make sure that we didn't outsize ourselves on expectations in Q4 so if you get through the math, you'll see that we're presenting Q4, in tests, slightly lower than Q4 last year, and that certainly appears rational based on the last three or four years of our Q4 performance. So I'll comment on that one because you're going to see a clean quarter in test and while you'll see kind of adjusted 13% EBITs there, it's going to be north of 14% in Q4 just because that volume carries a lot of overhead absorption through it. So we feel pretty good on that. On the filtration side, we always indicate that the Virginia Class Sub, the largest manifold that we sell, that product ships in Q4. And so, of our big step-up in filtration revenue, if we peg that in round terms of $10 million, $8 million or $9 million comes from VACCO, primarily between the Navy business and the space, and that as well pulls additional margin through. So that's a bunch of narrative around the sequential aspect of how we see Q4 playing through, being prudent -- I don't like the word conservative because it indicates something else, but I think we're being very prudent because this is all real time live for us. So that hopefully gets you comfortable on Q4, and then I'll defer the conversation on 2017 and 2018 until we get through September. But everything that we've indicated in our prepared remarks where we say the growth opportunities are tangible and presentable, I think it's reasonable to take that as we have comfort.