Christopher Dunn
Analyst · Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Sure. I was just waiting for you. Orest, you're absolutely right, it's something we debate on a quarterly basis. I mean fundamentally, as you know, we are exposed obviously to the BRL. And when we bought the Company, every banker in Brazil was telling us the BRL was going to 2.90. We didn't take that view. But at the same time, it crossed our minds that we should have some degree of insurance in -- to flex our operations. You can't really hedge for more than a year anyway, as you know, maybe 18 months. And it's an insurance policy, it gives you a chance to reorganize your business. So that's why we started the collar program. Obviously, the pandemic kicked volatility up and moved -- weakened the fundamentals of Brazil and moved the exchange rate significantly, adversely in the context of the hedges because it's above the collar, but positively in the context of our business since we make dramatically more money. So what -- how do we think about it today? We think about it pragmatically. So we have existing hedges. And what we've been doing is working on the assumption that volatility will ultimately die down as the world emerges from the pandemic. In Brazil, as an export-driven economy, the oil and gas or soya beans or iron ore will benefit from a recovering world. You should, all other things being equal, expect the Brazilian currency to strengthen to a degree, although fundamentally given its domestic issues of savings rates and government debt, to limit to that expectation. So we are therefore pragmatic. We're not actively writing new collars. We do roll some of the existing collars. We also opportunistically take profits when we can or rather reduce the hedge when we can. So when the Brazilian real strengthened back towards five in the fourth quarter, we opportunistically went and took out a bunch of hedges, i.e., took a small cash loss. But that was a smart thing to do because fundamentally we thought that was a relatively short-term value and that the real would probably weaken again. So that gives you some insight. We manage it proactively. We're not seeking to hedge our operations fully. We're happy to just let things roll at this point, given where the exchange rate is. We don't anticipate the Brazilian currency to strengthen a lot. We expect to be in the 5 to 5.50 territory for most of this year, and then we'll see where it will go to. But this is a -- when you say hedging, people always think five years or something like that, but really this is just a 12 to 18 months' insurance policy. And so we manage it with that kind of mindset. Does that help?