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Energy Recovery, Inc. (ERII)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, greetings and welcome to the Energy Recovery Fourth Quarter and Full Year Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this program is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, James Siccardi, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

James Siccardi

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Energy Recovery’s full year 2018 earnings conference call. My name is Jim Siccardi, Vice President of Investor Relations with Energy Recovery. I’m here today with our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Chris Gannon; and our Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Joshua Ballard. During today’s call, we may make projections and other forward-looking statements under the Safe Harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding future events or the future financial performance of the Company. These statements may discuss our business, economic, and market outlook, the Company’s ability to achieve the milestones and commercialization of the VorTeq licensing agreement, growth expectations, new products and their performance, cost structure and business strategy. Forward-looking statements are based on information currently available to us and on management’s beliefs, assumptions, estimates, or projections. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and other factors. We refer you to documents the Company files from time to time with the SEC, specifically the Company’s Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. These documents identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in our projections or forward-looking statements. All statements made during this call are made only as of today, March 7, 2018, and the Company expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during this call to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, unless otherwise required by law. In addition, we may make some references to non-GAAP financial measures during this call. You will find supplemental data in the Company’s earnings press release, which was released to newswires and furnished to the SEC earlier today. The press release includes reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to the comfortable GAAP results. At this point, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Joshua Ballard. Josh, the floor is yours.

Joshua Ballard

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. When I joined Energy Recovery last August, I was excited by the opportunities that the Company presented. First, its strong global Water business offering multiple sustainable growth paths; and second, the potential of its Pressure Exchanger technology in Oil & Gas as well as other industries. My excitement has only grown as I've gotten to know the strength of our team and core technologies. I believe 2019 will be an exciting, transformational year for Energy Recovery. Turning to our 2018 financial performance. We have closed a record year at Energy Recovery. For fiscal year 2018, we generated a $74.5 million in total revenue, an 8% increase over 2017, our previous performance high watermark. Our Water business achieved $60.5 million in revenue, an increase of 11% over 2017. This strong growth has been driven largely by mega projects, those generating over 50,000 cubic meters of water or more per day. We are very pleased with the upward trend in our core Water business and expect additional strong growth in 2019 and 2020. The overall seawater reverse osmosis desalination industry remains robust throughout the Middle East, Africa and Asia. Our Oil & Gas business generated total revenue of $14 million for fiscal year 2018. Of the total Oil & Gas revenue, $13.5 million was related to ASC 606 recognition of VorTeq license revenue. The remaining revenue was associated with cost-to-total cost revenue recognition related to the sale of multiple IsoBoost systems. Product gross margin remained strong ending the year at 71%. This is the highest product gross margin in the Company's history, driven by the shipment of a record number of PX Pressure Exchangers in 2018. Overall, operating expenditures grew from $40.8 million in 2017 to $46.7 million in 2018, a 14%…

Chris Gannon

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

Thank you, Josh. And thank you everyone for joining us today. Let me first begin by reiterating a couple of our key near-term strategic objectives. First, we are focused on growth and reinvestment in our core Water business; second, we are concentrating the efforts of our Oil & Gas business on commercializing the VorTeq system. Throughout this call, I will provide updates on our progress around these two objectives. A year ago, I pledged to our shareholders of tireless work ethics, full transparency and a single minded dedication to the success of Energy Recovery. At that time, I had just taken over as CEO, and my assessment then that it was an exciting time for Energy Recovery is even more true today. I see a level of momentum within our Water and Oil & Gas businesses that is unprecedented. Over the past year, I have spoken often of our near need to invest in infrastructure to enhance our near-term execution as well as support rapid, sustainable and transformational growth. While the Company may have had solid business fundamentals at the beginning of 2018, it was clear to me that a stronger foundation for near and long-term success needed to be built. As such, over the past year, we have made substantial progress in this regard across all areas of Energy Recovery. For instance, we separated the Company into two business units to ensure appropriate focus in resource allocation. In Water, we began investing in the improvement of our existing product lines, expansion of our water product and solution offerings, increase of our manufacturing capacity in the improvement of processes throughout our operations. These investments should support our efforts to maintain our commanding market share in seawater reverse osmosis desalination and grow our presence within the broader desalination market. On the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Tom Curran from FBR. You're now live.

Tom Curran

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

So, product revenue ended up coming in for 2018 about 20% higher than what you used to think of as around your cyclical ceiling. The product gross margin at 74.5% was simply astounding. Chris, Josh, as you guys look into 2019, questions on both the top line and profitability. First, given this ongoing surge we've seen in MPDs, just how much visibility and coverage do you have already for 2019 revenue? And then, what should we expect for the quarterly sequence from here for gross margin?

Joshua Ballard

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

So, when we are looking forward in terms of our visibility, as you know, we see roughly 18 months out -- or we see 36 months out in terms of our mega projects. We start signing projects, they give us a good feeling for about 18 months out -- 12 months to 18 months out. So we've got a relatively good feel for mega projects this year. But OEM and our aftermarket have much shorter cycles, and so we see at OEM, maybe up to 12 months, and aftermarket just a few months, if that's helpful.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

And in terms of our gross margin going forward, and we feel that the gross margin going into 2019 is going to be fairly similar to what you saw in 2018.

Tom Curran

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

And would that include a similar quarterly sequential progression in addition to comparable average annual?

Joshua Ballard

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

No. When we're looking at quarterly numbers, remember there's a lot of movement that occurs with our mega projects from quarter to quarter. So I don't think you should look for -- specifically quarter against quarter more at the overall year.

Tom Curran

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

Okay. And then Chris on VorTeq, just a few points of clarification, a three part, but simple question. So, one, could you just confirm that by saying in the press release that you're collaborating closely with your partners. By partners, you mean, both of the two licensees that have been involved contractually from the beginning, Schlumberger and Liberty? Two, when you referred to the next phase of commercialization, that the next phase does indeed include the successful completion of M1? And then, three, just what are the remaining conditions that must be met for the M1 test to be resumed?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

So, to your first question on who we're working with, we are back working with our product licensee, and our product partner very closely. So that was that one. In terms of the -- if I remember the word, the next phase of commercialization, what we're focusing on is field testing and regular field testing. So now that we have our own equipment, we are able to test at scale constantly. We now have the resources and the structure in place to independently advance the development of the VorTeq system. We didn't have that before. What was the third part?

Tom Curran

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

And then, just what conditions would need to be met at this point via all of that field testing? What's going to determine when you're ready to resume M1?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

So, we're focusing on the reliability of the system. And so the timing along the path of R&D is never, never certain as you know. However, field of the requirements and activities successfully developed VorTeq are well within our graph at this point. So I'm not going to give you a specific timing, some of that's in our control, others it's not. But the challenges that we face continue to diminish complexity, again, as we continue to accumulate run time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Hello there.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Hey, Joe. Go blue.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes, indeed. So, following up a little bit on the questions that were just asked. The understanding that we can't get into too many details. Is it really down to in terms of what you're trying to understand with VorTeq at this point, just reliability and run time, or are there any other more fundamental issues around your vibration or the way the materials acting or is it just getting run time on the system at this point?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes. I mean, it's really down to the reliability of the system in real-world conditions, and that's where we're focused. We're past the -- again, the fundamental viability of the core technology, that we know works.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Okay. And given how you kind of reposition this with your internal test capability, I mean, is it possible that you might go out and engage additional parties or you kind of happy working with the people that you have at this point?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

It's really not something we're evaluating at this time. I mean, we have the internal capability to test, and then of course, then we can test with both our licensed partner and our product partner. We've already begun to experience tangible benefits, given that we have our testing independence at this point, and it's really about accumulating run time.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

That makes sense. And we had spoken at one point about the idea of maybe all building another missile, so this one isn't getting just madly toward the hither and thither and yon. Is that still something that you're entertaining?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

At this point, we are focused on -- again the reliability of the system, and as we experienced changes we -- or things that we need to improve, we will continue to adjust the existing missile. At the right appropriate time, yes, we'll go and build another missile and hopefully many, many missiles, but right now I'm not evaluating spending more CapEx specifically on another missile.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

And shifting gears to the Water business, obviously, there was the ducting announcement. And I'm wondering what if anything you might be contemplating in terms of additional additions to your skill set on that side?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Can you repeat that question?

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Just wondering, if you're looking at maybe doing anything else like ducting in terms of adding additional skill sets to your Water portfolio?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes, absolutely. Okay. So, I apologize for that. We're looking at expanding our product offering very considerably. And we're doing that for on an organic and the inorganic means. And so not only are we focusing on just products, we're also focusing on solution offerings. And so, that's where we're going, and so we're at the front end of that process. We spent a lot of time last year developing that strategy and now we're in the process of executing upon that.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

So, we could see additional M&A or additional activities in that space as you continue to move forward?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes. So, we're not right now focusing on M&A, but more partnerships and getting to know potential partners like Duchting, for example. So as we expand our product portfolio, that's what we're going to do first.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

And then, last question for me. Just wondering if I can get a sense as to what the sort of operating cost run rate might look like in 2019. And I'm sorry if I missed that.

Joshua Ballard

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

No problem It's Josh. You can expect operating income to grow -- I'm sorry, operating expenditures to grow at a similar pace as they did in 2018. And that's going to, I would assume, just -- we saw about $11.5 million to $12 million in quarterly spend last year. And I'd expect that here in the early part of the year and it will slowly ramp up through the year.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes, it will grow less rapidly than revenues, yes?

Joshua Ballard

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Well, it grew a little bit over -- about 14% last year. So it's going to grow at that same amount, give or take this year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Urban from Seaport Global. You're now live.

Mike Urban

Analyst · Mike Urban from Seaport Global. You're now live

So, I wanted to follow-up on the one of the last questions about some of the growth efforts in your adjacent verticals there. So it doesn't tell you're expecting much in the way of revenue contribution this year, maybe more of a 2020 and beyond. But can you give a sense for when we could expect kind of commercialization of new products roll out or some of the first tangible signs of benefit from those efforts?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Mike Urban from Seaport Global. You're now live

Yes. I mean, where we see -- we currently have the relationship with Duchting, which has shown some early great signs later in the last part of 2018. We think that we'll continue to see growth with that partner as we enter 2019. In terms of our new products that will be out there, selling or bundling, if you will, it's really going to be in 2020, and I anticipate that.

Mike Urban

Analyst · Mike Urban from Seaport Global. You're now live

Okay. Got you. And apologize if I had missed this. I think you said CapEx would be up considerably in '19, but I missed the number. Do you have a kind of a dollar amount you're looking at for this year?

Joshua Ballard

Analyst · Mike Urban from Seaport Global. You're now live

We're looking at about $10 million of spend this year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Tom Curran from FBR. You're now live.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Tom Curran from FBR. You're now live

Thanks for letting me back in guys. Sticking with the same recent line of questioning on the strategic initiative to expand Waters' TAM, Chris, could you expand on the specific offerings you're considering within two areas of desal plant construction, one would be installation and fabrication, and then the other equipment and materials. I felt like we've talked a lot about the existing exposure you have in pumps, and how you might be looking to expand there. But those two areas, they're pretty broad and vague sounding. So maybe if you could just provide some more color on what specifically in each of them you might be interested in?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Tom Curran from FBR. You're now live

So, great question, by the way, and where we're focused is on expanding from our Pressure Exchanger out in that area of the plant. In terms of the overall, that's the main desalination part of it, RO process. And so when we think about growth there, on the mega projects we're looking at getting a larger crack at pumps certainly, racks and manifolds, and things of that nature in that area. And then we'll expand from there. On the OEM side of the business, which is where we certainly have greater competition, we are looking to not only improve our overall technologies, but then expand our pump offerings there as well. I think historically we've shown a pie chart in our IR material that talks about our total addressable market and more specifically where we play, namely in the Pressure Exchanger or the Energy Recovery area and then to a lesser extent in pumps. So we're trying to get more exposure to the pump market in general, and then we'll expand from there.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Tom Curran from FBR. You're now live

And then beyond the award hotbed, that is the Middle East, could you also expand upon the nature and the potential of the opportunities you're seeing in some of the other nascent RO desal growth markets like Chile, Australia and Asia, outside of China, such as Singapore. Where across those are the less high-profile growth markets? Have you started to see maybe signs of an acceleration or some interesting movement?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Tom Curran from FBR. You're now live

Yes, certainly you mentioned Chile. We're certainly seeing activity there. I think there has been some discussion in the news as of late that certain other areas down in Australia are starting to need desalination activity again. They were certainly -- they went to a water surplus for a while there. It seem like they built a whole bunch of plants and then it's immediately started to rain. Well, that issue has now come back to them in their focus there. But, right now it's mostly Middle East, Africa, regions like that. We're also seeing a move in a lot of regions to converting thermal plants to desalination or to SWRO facilities, and that's a big boon for us, because there's a lot of those plants out there.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Hey, I'm back, to continue the previous question there for a little bit. We -- so you may have just seen that this New Fortress Energy deal came and part of what was going on there is gas fired power in smaller Caribbean markets like Puerto Rico and Jamaica, and places like this. One of the issues that came up there is power for desal. So I'm wondering what kind of potential you see in some of these much smaller form factor desal equipment, in some cases, like the container form factor stuff or are you playing in that space and what do you think of it?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes. We do play in the smaller plants, in the small containerized areas. So we sell into those with the actual companies that create those products.

Joseph Osha

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Can you imagine an environment where you might want to trying for, obviously I think it's pretty clear you don't want to do membranes, but were -- given your reach could you become some kind of system integrator or you just happy selling -- selling parts into those companies?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joseph Osha from JMP Securities. You're now live

Yes. I mean, we definitely want to begin to develop solutions, but we're not offering more to our end customers, including these containerized type companies that are building those small RO systems. However, we don't -- we're not interested in competing with them to do that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have no further questions in queue at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for closing comments.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · FBR. You're now live

All right. Thank you for joining us this afternoon and we appreciate your continued support of our Company. We look forward to providing an update on our next earnings call and I guess at the eight weeks. So, thank you very much. And have a great rest of your day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude our teleconference for today. You may now disconnect your line at this time and log off your computer. Thank you for your participation. And have a wonderful day.