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Energy Recovery, Inc. (ERII)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 8, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Energy Recovery's Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Brian Omer, Managing Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

Brian Omer

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Energy Recovery's earnings conference call for the fourth quarter and year-end 2017. My name is Brian Omer, I’m here with our Chairman of the Board HP Michelet and our President and Chief Executive Officer, Chris Gannon. During today's call, we may make projections and other forward-looking statements under the Safe Harbor provisions contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding future events or the future financial performance of the Company. These statements may discuss our business, economic and market outlook, the Company's ability to achieve the milestones and commercialization under the VorTeq licensing agreement, growth expectations, new products and their performance, including the MTeq system, cost structure and business strategy. Forward-looking statements are based on information currently available to us and on management's beliefs, assumptions, estimates, or projections. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and other factors. We refer you to document the Company's files from time to time with the SEC, specifically the Company's Form 10-K and 10-Q. These documents identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in our projections or forward-looking statements. All statements made during this call are made only as of today, March 8, 2018, and the Company expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during this call to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, unless otherwise required by law. At this point, I would like to turn the call over to our Chairman and Board of Directors HP Michelet to provide opening remarks. HP please go ahead.

Hans Peter Michelet

Analyst · Craig Moss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Brian. Good morning. I would like to thank you everyone for dialing in today. Last Saturday, the 24 of February I received a call from Joel Gay as he tendered his resignation to attend to personal matters. The Board of Directors accepted his resignation and called to order an urgent meeting the following day. At that time, we appointed Chris Gannon to become president and CEO. Now for the business moving forward. At Energy Recovery, we pride ourselves in recruiting top tier talent. We have a very deep pool of candidates that quickly came to mind as options for the CEO job where the top - discussed by the Board. Chris’ experience and education brought him to the top of the pack. His background in engineering, MBA from the University of Chicago, experience in Turnaround Consulting and leadership as the CFO of Energy Recovery made him stand out as the next individual to lead the Company. The Board will ensure Chris has the resources and support as he leads to next leg of growth at ERII. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Chris Gannon, President and CEO. Chris the floor is yours.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Thank you HP, and thank you everyone for joining me on my first call as President and Chief Executive Officer of Energy Recovery. I’m honored by this opportunity and excited to lead this Company as we continue to grow our core water business and develop our innovative pressure exchanger technology within oil and gas and other new industries and applications. Before we begin with the strategic commercial and financial update, I would like to take a moment and introduce myself directly to our shareholders. Know that I hold the stewardship of this Company with the upmost responsibility. I will lead to the very best of my ability, and you can continue to expect from me a tireless work asset, full transparency and a single minded dedication to the success of Energy Recovery. We have a world-class group of professionals of whom I expect and demand the same level of hard work and excellence that has been the hallmark of these last few transformative years. In terms of style and approach, I believe in clear, honest and direct communications. This has served me well throughout my career from my formative investment making years to advising and leading other international corporations in the city of Detroit to my last almost three years as Energy Recovery’s Chief Financial Officer. I hope it is something that you our shareholders will find a great value. I will endower to keep you informed on material developments and I will do my best to describe and translate the complex fluid and fluid matters which this Company and our team address daily. It is an exciting time for Energy Recovery. We have never been better situated and I couldn’t be more excited for the opportunities and challenges ahead. Now moving forward with our strategic, commercial and financial update,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Sonny Randhawa

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I guess you provided a lot of good clarity on VorTeq and M1 testing. Just wanted to see how much of the M1 testing is under your control in terms of if you hit all of those KPIs, how quickly would you receive payment after M1? Or is it still a discussion in terms of what hitting those KPIs actually is?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Sonny. Thanks for the question and thanks for being on the line. The contract is very clearly defined in terms of when we get paid for M1, VorTeq and it would be immediate.

Sonny Randhawa

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Okay, and then when we are thinking about and you guys gave I guess a pretty conservative estimate for when MTeq was starting. If I could drove down on that a little bit more, are we looking to have all of those component in-house, machined and on site and ready for testing to begin sometime in May or are we going to be pushing into June or further?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Yes. So, you keep our Prime to MTeq, it’s really VorTeq. So we are awaiting those components. We expect to receive them in early Q2 at this time.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And then I guess just finally in the past, you’ve announced buybacks and you haven’t come close to completing them, it seems like you intend to do the full amount here. Can you speak to that?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Yes. We fully intend to purchase the full $10 million.

Sonny Randhawa

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Okay. Great. I will turn it back. Thank you.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, Sonny.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Blake Gendron

Analyst · James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question

Good morning guys. This is Blake on for James. I just want to ask a quick one the water desal; you guys have some pretty sizable orders come through fairly recently that were tracking. Can you just talk about the levers that you guys still possess both on the pricing front and perhaps on the internal costs and manufacturing yield front, just so we can get a handle on how gross margins will evolve through 2018 and beyond?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question

Hey, Blake. Glad to take the question and great to hear from you. In terms of looking at the desal business, we are very bullish on that line of our company. We do not see any slowdown at this point in desal. So in terms of our product gross margins, we continue to believe and see that they will be consistent.

Blake Gendron

Analyst · James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question

Got it. Thanks and then a follow-up on the IsoBoost and IsoGen, any sort of update you can give us on the penetration in the GCs with that technology?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question

Absolutely, we licensed that technology for Alderley, which I think we announced last year, they are now in the driver seat of deploying that technology in marketing math technology.

Blake Gendron

Analyst · James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question

Got it. Thanks.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · James West with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I’m in for Tom this morning. Chris I know that as of your conference presentation last week, you had another chance to touch base with some about Joel’s departure and your appointment as a replacement. Have you had that call or meeting up to this point?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Ryan, thanks for the question. Yes, I have absolutely spoken with our licensing partner.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Okay, great. Had they responded? Did they give any indication about how it might impact their commitment or adherence to the licensing agreement?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Well I’m not going to speak on behalf of our licensing partner, but what I can tell you is that its business is usual. They were very enthusiastic and we are very focused along with them on commercializing VorTeq.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Great, thank you. And then on the harder grade replacement components, you are expecting the 12 rotors and 24 MCAPs to be delivered in Q2, I want to clarify that?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Correct.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And then turning to MTeq. I know that Sidewinder has found itself with the high-quality problems faster than expected rebound demand for its idle rigs. Given that when it comes to timing of the field trial, is there any risk that you won’t be able to get a firm date window and it could become subject to Sidewinders’ job calendar with the risk of it slipping out further?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

I missed the great question. I’m actually really happy you asked that. The MTeq is a closed-loop system and we can intend to do all of our testing in the near-term privately.

Ryan Pfingst

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Okay, great. That’s it from me guys. Thank you.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Ryan Pfingst with B. Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, Ryan.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question.

Joe Gibney

Analyst · Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, good morning. Chris just curious on the sort of the broader strategic question. I appreciate the emphasis on the VorTeq, MTeq and certainly continuing growth in desal. I’m just curious how you think about additional product degradations down the road with the pressure exchanger technology and what you can’t accomplish there in a pace of that. Understand that there was a little bit more of the background now, but just curious on some perspective of R&D how you think about additional reservations obviously this seems to be moving a little bit further down, where are they focused, all hands on that can be VorTeq and MTeq and water, but just curious on some perspective there? Thanks.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question

Sure, Joe. Thanks for that question. Look that’s our long-time strategy. It’s not changed. We are focused on ideation and our new product development as it relates to the PX technology and taking that these other markets. What I’m trying to emphasize in my prepared remarks was that we are going to be a laser focused right now on MTeq, VorTeq and our desal business, and we will not sacrifice that further ideation.

Joe Gibney

Analyst · Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question

Okay. Next, just one modeling question as associates with sort of the oil and gas gross profitability in the quarter and 4Q. Are there some moving pieces associated with Alderley but sort of then gross profitability there just trying to understand that it’s a smaller piece I get it, but just trying to understand a little bit data has some [indiscernible] there on the product side of oil and gas possibility in 4Q?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question

Yes, that’s a great question. When we look at the product revenue associated with the multiple units of the IsoBoost that we are selling that had actually nothing to do with Alderley. I have to deal with the PO that we signed a year ago in developing those units. So we are under the percentage of completion, revenue recognition process that’s what we have adapted. We have seen some delays in that, but we fully intend to shift that product over the next couple of quarters.

Joe Gibney

Analyst · Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question

Okay, helpful. I appreciate it. Thanks.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, Joe.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of [Eric Brinkley] (Ph), Private Investor. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Hey, Chris. I noticed that there are about 9.3 million short shares on a free flow of about 27 million shares with little availability of further borrow. Besides today’s buyback as new CEO is there, a message you would like to convey to those who are bearing office to VorTeq success, MTeq success, growth in the existing product line and at the single-digit price a financial weakening of your Company.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Well yes. It’s an interesting question. Look, I mean at the end of the day, the short can pile on if they want, I think that we will have the last lap, that is fully our intention and that’s where we are moving forward on. So the short so will get there at some point. We are totally focused on execution that’s what we have under our control.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Moss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Moss

Analyst · Craig Moss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question

Hi. I have two questions, the first just pertains to the turnover and the leadership with the Company. I was curious if the Board considered doing a more detailed search for somebody with an extensive engineering background given I guess disappointment in how quickly we could get the issues with VorTeq resolved and the second question is, does the Company have any exposure or liability pertaining to the departure of Joel Gay.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Craig Moss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question

Look, I will let HP address your first question. The second one I can’t discuss that. HP why don’t you address that question?

Hans Peter Michelet

Analyst · Craig Moss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question

Absolutely. As to our responsibilities and I would say as it relates to our Fiduciary responsibilities to look outside of ERII for a compatible or other candidates, we have actually initiated that search, but we hope that to be quick and that’s the agenda we are following.

Craig Moss

Analyst · Craig Moss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question

Okay thank you for that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities, please proceed with your question.

Sonny Randhawa

Analyst · Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities, please proceed with your question

Hey, thanks for letting me back in. You mentioned that the impact is a close loop system and it’s a lot easier to test than the VorTeq is. Where are you guys in terms of announcing a commercial partner or MTeq or are you planning on proving up the technology and proving up the value more before you announce a commercial partner there?

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities, please proceed with your question

Yes. Great question, MTeq is a close loop system, we can do a great amount of testing on our own to continue to prove out that technology. The reality is that we are doing both in parallel, so we will continue to develop that technology and at the same time we are continuing to talk to and explore long-term strategic partnership. Look, we have a balance sheet that’s very strong and so we can to that. In addition, as we prove out our technology further, we will be in a better negotiation position, so that’s our intention.

Sonny Randhawa

Analyst · Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities, please proceed with your question

Okay, I guess since it is a little bit earlier to test and the technology hurdle is lower as well and you sort of stream line your focus to VorTeq and MTeq. Could we theoretically see MTeq coming out prior to VorTeq just based on just the technology hurdle there.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities, please proceed with your question

I mean it’s all possible, I’m not going to address specific timing. Look we don’t have a late stage partner just yet. We are talking to a number of parties. These are early days. We have had a lot of great success in our yard test for MTeq. We have had a lot of lessons learnt from that and now we are going back and completing some design modifications. So I’m very bullish on that, but we will not rush that technology.

Sonny Randhawa

Analyst · Sonny Randhawa with Seaport Global Securities, please proceed with your question

Okay, great. Appreciate it, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session, and I would like to turn the call back to Chris Gannon for closing remarks.

Chris Gannon

Analyst · Seaport Global Securities. Please proceed with your question

Alright, well thank you. If there are no more questions which currently are there or not, let me just say that appreciate you joining us this morning and we look forward to talking to you in Q1 earnings call. Thank you and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.