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Equinox Gold Corp. (EQX)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 7, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Equinox Gold Third Quarter 2024 Results and Corporate Update. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Rhylin Bailie, Vice President, Investor Relations for Equinox Gold. Please go ahead.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everybody, for joining us here this morning. We will, of course, be making a number of forward-looking statements today. So please do visit our website, SEDAR and EDGAR to learn more about the company and read the rest of our continuous disclosure documents. I would now like to turn the call over to our President and CEO, Greg Smith.

Greg Smith

Analyst

Thanks, Rhylin, and good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining the call. On the line with me is our COO, Doug Reddy; our CFO, Peter Hardie; our EVP of Exploration, Scott Heffernan; and of course, our VP of Investor Relations, Rhylin Bailie. Today, we are discussing Equinox Gold's 2024 third quarter financial and operating results. I'll start with a broad overview of the quarter, and then I'll turn the call over to Pete and Doug for more details. I'm going to start with safety. Our safety performance this quarter was good. Six of our sites had no lost time incidents with two recorded for the quarter overall, and our 12-month rolling total recordable injury frequency rate stands at 1.79 per million hours worked. We also had no significant environmental incidents in Q3. With the increasing production from Greenstone and the strong gold prices, this was a record third quarter for the company. In terms of gold sales, revenue, adjusted EBITDA and other metrics with just under 174,000 gold ounces produced and sold at a cash cost per ounce sold of $1,720 and an all-in sustaining cost per ounce sold of $1,994 per ounce. Note that cash costs and all-in sustaining cost per ounce do not include cost per ounce for Greenstone as Greenstone was not yet commercially producing in Q3. However, revenue and operating costs in the financial statements do include sales and costs from Greenstone. For the nine-month period, we produced approximately 408,000 ounces and sold approximately 406,000 ounces at cash costs of $1,678 per ounce and all-in sustaining cost of $1,994 per ounce, again, excluding the cost per ounce for production from Greenstone. Onto Greenstone itself, the ramp-up of mining and milling has progressed well since our first gold pour in May, though at a slightly slower pace…

Peter Hardie

Analyst

Thanks, Greg. We're now on Slide 6 in the presentation. During Q3, we realized $2,461 per ounce on the 174,000 ounces sold for revenues of $428 million. The increase in revenue for the quarter is driven by higher production and the higher gold price. The increase in sales was driven by the contribution of 44,000 ounces sold by Greenstone. Keep in mind last year, Greenstone was in construction, and so it had no sales. For the quarter, income from mine operations was $101 million, an increase of $76 million from Q3 last year, and that's primarily thanks to the increase in revenues. We had $268 million in operating expenses in Q3 2024, an increase compared to Q3 2023, primarily due to Greenstone ramp-up as Greenstone was in construction last year and had no operating expenses. We also had some higher operating expenses at Los Filos. Our open pit and underground cost per tonne mined were less than last year as was our cost per ton processed. However, we stacked and processed more ore tonnes in Q3 this year than the Q3 last year, which led to higher overall operating costs. On a per unit basis, we had a Q3 2024 cash cost of $17.20 per ounce, which is an increase of $357 per ounce compared to last year's Q3 cash cost of $13.63 per ounce. Keep in mind that while Greenstone's revenues and related cost of sales are recorded in our income statement as required by IFRS, I'll reiterate, as Greg mentioned, those results are not included in our cash and all-in sustaining cost metrics for Q3 as Greenstone wasn't yet in commercial production. Our increased net for our cash and all-in sustaining costs for the quarter is primarily volume driven with 24,000 ounces in lower sales in Q3 this…

Doug Reddy

Analyst

Thanks, Pete. We're now on Slide 9 of the presentation. As noted, we had a very good Q3 for overall gold production. And we look forward to Q4 and we should get about one third of our annual production coming in, in Q4. At Greenstone, the mine produced 42,448 ounces was an all-in sustaining cost of $938 an ounce. Throughput achieved a rolling 30-day average of 60%, that's 60% of the nameplate of 27,000 tonnes a day as of August 28 and the ramp-up continued through October. And as of November 5, the 20-day average was 76% of capacity. Recovery is still being addressed. It was 79% in the quarter. We've been addressing issues with screens, pumps and conveyors in the mill, typical of a ramp-up. All of these have been resolved or are being addressed as we went through October, and we have had throughput over 27,000 tonnes a day. The fleets now 25 haul trucks with four shovels on site, and we'll be adding to that fleet through the end of the year and into Q1. At Mesquite mine, gold production was 15,223 ounces with an all-in sustaining cost of $1,421 an ounce. Waste stripping continued in the Ginger pit and the majority of the ore from that pit goes on to leach pad starting in the latter part of Q1 in 2025. We also rehandled a stacked and began leaching the old Vista leach pad material during the quarter. And for the rest of 2024, our production will be mostly drawdown of the leach pad inventory side slope leaching and leaching up some additional ore that comes during the stripping of the Ginger pit. At Los Filos, the mine has the second highest quarter for gold production since Equinox acquired the mine. Production increased during Q3 to…

Greg Smith

Analyst

Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to make a couple of closing comments before we move on to Q&A. So on the last quarterly call, I noted that we were at an inflection point at Equinox Gold with Greenstone coming online. And even though we really just started production at Greenstone and are still ramping up, you can see here on the slide the effect Greenstone is having. We had record gold sales for our third quarter. And with the strong gold prices, we also had the all-time highest revenue and adjusted EBITDA and adjusted operating cash flow for any quarter. And at these current gold prices and with increasing production, Q4 should be another strong quarter for us, and we should be in a great position to further deleverage over the coming quarters, as well as investing in our mines for the future. I think Rhylin, I'll wrap up there, and we can move to Q&A.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Sure. Operator, can you please remind people how to ask the questions.

Operator

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions].

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Thank you. While you queue up, I'll take the first question that we've got from online here. So congratulations on achieving commercial production at Greenstone, I noted that your calculation of how you calculate that is different than what you had initially said in Q2. Could you explain?

Greg Smith

Analyst

Sure. So yes, our internal criteria for declaring commercial production was more conservative, certainly than many of our peers and certainly from where we ultimately announced it. The reality is, over the third quarter, the mine generated a substantial amount of all or all-in sustaining cost contribution margin. We've seen throughput rates increased meaningfully over the back half of October and into November. And you can only -- it becomes very hard to argue you're not commercially producing when the mine is producing gold at sort of sub of $1,000 cash cost per ounce, and it's increasing every week. So it made sense from an accounting perspective, from an operating perspective to declare it. And what that means is over the last two months of the year here, the costs and for Greenstone will be incorporated into the cash cost and all sustaining costs and we'll have depreciation, et cetera, being reflected in our financial statements. The reality is Greenstone is our largest and lowest cost mine now even in this ramp-up period, and really, there's no debate that it's commercially producing.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you. Operator, we can take that question from the phone, please.

Operator

Operator

Our first question comes from Anita Soni from CIBC. Please go ahead.

Anita Soni

Analyst

Hi, good morning, Greg and team. First off, congratulations for swinging to a free cash flow positive this quarter and declared commercial production at Greenstone. Secondly, I was just hoping if you could give us some color on how the unit costs at Greenstone are trending. I was hoping to get some data for my model on mining and processing. I know it's not a full quarter or it's early days, but just want to see where it's pegging at right now.

Doug Reddy

Analyst

We're just going dig that up and come back to you in a minute.

Greg Smith

Analyst

Anita, we do -- I think we do have some of that data in our -- where we went through some of it at the site tour. From a mining cost perspective, we're effectively on plan as what we anticipated. But we'll pull that data and maybe this is a conversation we can have offline.

Anita Soni

Analyst

Okay. Second question was with respect to Santa Luz. I think Doug addressed it a little bit, but is the go-forward expectation on recovery rates perhaps into next year as well, like more along the lines of 60% recovery rate? Or are we still trying to target something higher? And if so, when do you expect to achieve the higher number?

Doug Reddy

Analyst

So without de-sliming, we're operating around, like I said, 64% to 75%, we're actually averaging about 68%. So as a default, we'll consider without de-sliming, but we do intend to continue to work on the de-sliming because we see it works. But the problem is doing the increased throughput that comes with the trend and at the same time as doing the de-sliming meant that we have to readjust our cyclones to be able to properly do the feet. So the guys are working through testing that to try to bring it back and try it again. We do intend long term to do the de-sliming. But without de-sliming, we still get a decent recovery, albeit not where we originally intended.

Greg Smith

Analyst

Anita, if I could just add something to that. What I would say with Santa Luz, we have periods where the recovery is excellent and kind of exceeding our targets. And then we have periods where the chemistry changes in the plant and recovery plummets. And the word I would use is that recovery at Santa Luz is quite volatile. And that's something that we're continuing to struggle with and something we're continuing to work on, is trying to get some stability. So I mean, as you can see just through our -- all of our calls this year, it's been very challenging for us to forecast recoveries Santa Luz because of this volatility, I think we're making some good headway and the trending has worked out great for us. The recoveries over the last three or four weeks have actually been probably the best we've seen all year and relatively stable. But I don't really want to project that into the future because we've seen this volatility at Santa Luz multiple times. But as Doug said, we're going to refine this de-sliming circuit, and I think that's going to help going into 2025. By February when we release our 2025 guidance, we'll have a better handle on this, hopefully, and can give you more details.

Anita Soni

Analyst

Okay. And then last question on Aurizona and the Piaba pit. I'm not sure if it was the reiteration of the expectation or if it was a little bit different. I couldn't -- I had a lot of companies report last night. But is it -- is this a change like at Piaba -- like I think it said you're expecting to get into that in Q4. Were you expecting to get into it earlier? Or was Q4 always a target?

Doug Reddy

Analyst

Q4 was always the target, but we had the opportunity to start in on the eastern and west end of Piaba in October well, actually, it is Q4. Yeah. We're doing exactly what we said. Sorry.

Anita Soni

Analyst

That’s all I feel too today.

Doug Reddy

Analyst

We're very much on track with our expectations and bringing on Boa Esperança as well, we did indicate that we would do that. So we're in there as well. So it gives us a lot more flexibility than we had last year going into the rainy season, and we continue to have essentially four areas that we can be mining.

Anita Soni

Analyst

All right. Thank you for taking my question.

Doug Reddy

Analyst

Thank you.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

We'll take one from online. This is for you, Peter. Are you able to give any more clarity on your plan or potentially the time line for deleveraging?

Peter Hardie

Analyst

I think you'll see us do a combination of things. One is, as some of the debt matures, as for instance, the second of the $140 million convertible notes, which matures next year in September, we'll likely retire that. That will either get converted because of the share price, it's in the money or we'll just outright retire it from treasury. The revolving credit facility will be opportunistic and aggressive in paying that down with cash flow from mines. And then with the term loan that we took out to consolidate ownership of Greenstone, I think you'll see us optimize debt maturity as well. So we'll take a combined approach to it of outright retirement and then also maturing our debt ladder maturities, if you will, or extending it to work on the deleveraging.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Thank you. Operator, go ahead.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Jeremy Hoy from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Hoy

Analyst

Hi, good morning, Greg and team. Just a quick one for me. Previously, I believe it was mentioned that you thought there could be a resolution to the discussions with Los Filos communities by the end 2024. Is that all the expectation? Or could that drag into 2025 as well? And just any more color you guys could provide on that.

Greg Smith

Analyst

Sure, Jeremy. So you have to appreciate that this is a commercial negotiation, so I can only give so much color. There's a few things I can say with some certainty, and that is -- we do need to renegotiate these agreements to secure the long-term future of Los Filos. If we're not able to do it, then in 2025, we would move toward a suspension of operations and the timing of that would occur through the course of the first quarter effectively. That being said, we've had constructive discussions with the communities. I think it's fair to say that all stakeholders, government, community members, obviously, us. We all want that mine to operate. So I think the goal of everybody is to get to an agreement. Nobody wants to close this mine. But these are -- it's a negotiation. So we don't have a line in the sand as to a date. But if we're not somewhere by the end of this year and early Q1, we're going to have to move toward that because we're not going to run this mine for the long term with these agreements in place. And also, we need new agreements anyways because these agreements are expiring. So it's -- it is a critical time for us, and we're very engaged in this, and I would say everybody involved is very engaged, and we're all working toward a resolution. And certainly, we hope we get there, and we'll continue working on that.

Jeremy Hoy

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you. I realize it's tough to provide specifics, but I do appreciate the color.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

You all done Jeremy?

Jeremy Hoy

Analyst

Yeah, that's it for me. Thank you.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

We have a couple of questions online about Castle Mountain, just for an update on the permitting time line and our expansion plans.

Doug Reddy

Analyst

So Castle, as we've said, we've suspended mining and crushing and agglomeration of the low-grade material that we were doing as part of Phase 1. Those -- that was all contractor provided. So we've reduced to a minimum team on site, and we continue to do residual leaching and continue to do well on drawing off ounces from the pad, with size of leaching and re-leaching areas that have previously been under irrigation. So that will continue as long as possible through the permitting phase. We have had good interaction with BLM in the county. We've already dealt with our notice of completion of documents, and we're looking forward to the notice of intent, and we hope to see that coming into the New Year and then we'll be working through. We're already engaged -- agreed on a formula or way for having a contract to provide support to BLM for the review of the EIS, and then we'll work through the whole permitting process. So it's advancing well.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Okay. I have no more questions online, and we have no more questions from the phones. Greg, do you want to do some closing remarks?

Greg Smith

Analyst

Thanks, Rhylin. Yeah. I mean I think just to reiterate, this third quarter was really a record quarter for Equinox in a lot of ways. We're looking forward to a very strong fourth quarter. And of course, as Greenstone ramps up here into 2025 -- a very strong 2025. Obviously, very much enjoying the strong gold prices. And so we'll talk to everyone again here in February for year-end. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to Rhylin, reach out to me, and we'll be doing a little bit of marketing over the next couple of months. And of course, our website has any other information you might want to take a look at. So thanks, everyone. I appreciate it.

Rhylin Bailie

Analyst

Thanks for joining us today. Operator, you can now conclude the call.

Operator

Operator

This brings to a close today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.