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Q4 2013 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 28, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2013 EPR Properties Earnings Conference Call. My name is Denise, and I’ll be the operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. David Brain, CEO. Please proceed.

David Brain

Analyst

Thank you very much. Good afternoon all. Thank you for joining us. It’s David Brain I’ll start with our usual preface, which is as follows. As we begin this afternoon, let me inform you that this conference call may include forward-looking statements defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of ‘95, identified by such words as will be, intend, continue, believe, expect, may, hope, anticipate, or other comparable terms. Company’s actual financial conditions, results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Discussion of the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company’s SEC filings, including the company’s report on Form 10-K for the year ending December 31, 2013. All right. With that said again I’ll bid you good afternoon. Thank you for joining us on this earnings call for fourth quarter 2013. This is David Brain, the company’s CEO. With me to go through the news of the quarter as usual are company’s COO, Gregory Silvers.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Good morning – afternoon sorry.

David Brain

Analyst

Company’s CFO, Mark Peterson.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Good afternoon.

David Brain

Analyst

As many of you probably already know, there are slides to accompany this call and you can find those via our website eprkc.com. I’ll start as I usually do with headlines for the quarter and they are for the fourth quarter 2013 number one, year finishes with earnings per share right in line with increased guidance; second, key tenant industries and portfolio performance remains strong; third, portfolio growth achieved also right in line with guidance; fourth, strong balance sheet positions supportive of further growth; fifth, dividend increased substantially; and sixth, 2014 guidance affirmed reflecting continued of substantial portfolio and shareholder results increases. It’s good to join you this afternoon and report these headlines in our fourth quarter and year-end results for 2013. These headlines reflect results of steady material progress along our articulated course for the year, and they are highly repetitious each of our prior quarters, but sometimes repetition can be a beautiful thing. As indicated by our first headline this afternoon, year finishes with earnings per share right in line with increased guidance. Our year-end reported FFO as adjusted per share of $3.90 was right in the middle of our guidance range as of our last call that had increased this midpoint by $0.02 per share. Thus, we finished the year with an increase of about 6% in this metric over the prior year. We feel very good about this result. We combine with our dividend yield and our relative multiple stability, we delivered a total shareholder return of about 14% for the year, very consistent with our historical record. Our second headline this afternoon, key tenant industries and portfolio performance remains strong. It’s the same as I’ve been reporting to you repeatedly for quarters. 2013 box office and total theatre receipts set another record for the year,…

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, David. 2013 continued the execution and validation of our stated strategy of focusing on specialty assets that deliver reliable and dependable results, as opposed to competing for commoditized assets with increasingly thinner spreads. In the fourth quarter of 2013, we continued the positive momentum of the year with approximately 151 million of capital spending in the quarter, bringing our year-end total to over 400 million, a 35% increase over the prior year. The capital was deployed across our three investment segments and with our spending guidance for 2014 you can see that we continue to see good opportunities to put capital to work at 2014, with a planned 30% increase in investment spending as a midpoint. On today’s call, I would like to spend a minute highlighting not only the fourth quarter achievements, but also the total year performance of our portfolio, along with discussing our plan for 2014. In the entertainment segment, our primary asset group for theatre exhibition continues to perform well. Once again, 2013 turned out to be a record box office year as the fourth quarter of 2013 was up approximately 10% over 2012, led by the success of the Hunger Game series and the strong showing of Disney’s Frozen. Early forecast for 2014 tend to point a slightly up year-over-year comparison and the Lego movie has gotten us off to a very good start. During the quarter, we funded approximately 25 million, primarily related to the purchase of the remaining interest of our German joint venture partner in two theatres located in Florida and Illinois, as well as the ongoing funding of eight build-to-suit theatre projects. In 2013, we continued to see an increased focus by our tenant operators on the customer experience. This focus included the introduction of expanded food and beverage…

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thank you, Greg. I’d like to remind everyone on the call that our quarterly investment supplemental can be downloaded from our website. Also, please note page 20 is a new page in the supplemental that provides future investment spending estimates for build-to-suit projects in process as of 12/31. Hope investors find this information useful. Now turning to the first slide, FFO for the fourth quarter increased $63.3 million or $1.23 per share from $41 million or $0.87 per share in the prior year. FFO as adjusted per share was $0.97 versus $0.96 in the prior year, an increase of approximately 1%. As you can see on the next slide, there are number of gains in the quarter that are included in net income, but is excluded from FFO as adjusted and I want to discuss these gains upfront before reviewing the other variances versus the prior year. First as Greg mentioned, we completed the acquisition of the remaining ownership interest in two joint ventures for 18.6 million. We had previously held minority interests in both of these entities and had made prior loans to them totaling 33.1 million, recognized a gain on acquisition of 3.2 million and a gain on previously held equity interests of 4.9 million, related to the fair value adjustments required as a result of the changes in control. Second, we recognized the deferred income tax benefit of 14.8 million during the quarter. This benefit was chartered by a Canadian tax law change effective 1/1/14 that limits the deductibility of intercompany interest expense for our Canadian entity that holds our four entertainment retail centers in Ontario. Because we now expect to be a tax payer going forward in Canada, we reversed the previous 100% allowance we had, had against our deferred tax assets. This non-cash benefit will…

David Brain

Analyst

Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Greg. As we go to your questions, I just hope you will join me in recognizing the quarter and the year is on plan and on guidance. We have and we expect to continue to reliably deliver attractive returns with strong investment safety fundamentals. Now with that wrap up, let’s go to questions. Operator, are you there?

Operator

Operator

Yes. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Craig Melman with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed. Craig Melman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hey, guys. Mark, on the taxes the 1.5 million that’s going to flow through FFO, in ‘14 is that ratable or is that going to be kind of chunkier?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

You can assume that’s ratable because our earnings for those centrums are fairly ratable so that’d be a fair assumption. Craig Melman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Okay. And then on TopGolf on the percent rent the 1.2 million in ‘13, I think the majority of that was in 3Q and 4Q. Is that sort of why we should think about it going forward? And how high think that can get given sort of the new projects you had to bring in? I know you kind of changed the arrangement at some point.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Craig, it’s Greg. I think yeah third and fourth quarter is generally when that’s going to hit. I think the issue of how it work and go is really going to be dependent we’re adding more facilities and it’s going to be depending upon on how those performing. So, it will be interesting to see if they could – we’ve had some that have greatly exceeded our expectations if they move back toward the areas where they’re just meeting our expectations then that will be a little more less immediate. It will have to grow into it but so right now I would say that the way we model it is kind of what we did last year and then any addition to that is bonus dollars. Craig Melman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: And can you remind us the breakout between 3Q and 4Q the dollars?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Mark, do you have that?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Sure. Let me grab it real quick. So Q3 actual percentage rents as a whole was 1.3 million this chopped off so 900,000 in Q3 and 200,000 in Q4. You wanted year-over-year, that was versus last quarter, year-over-year last year was 550,000 roughly and this year it was 200,000. Craig Melman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Okay. And then just lastly on the education segment, can you go into a little bit more what the private schools actually represent and may be give some thoughts behind it? I mean I was understood that charter schools because it’s public, you have the public dollars behind it and there is sort of a captive audience. Can you kind of go through what the investment thesis is on moving into the private school segment?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Sure Craig, it’s Greg again. I think again as we said in our comments, that the increasing demand for quality education what we if you look at how basis has been able to deliver and public charter schools top 10 kind of rates schools in the country and Dr. Block founder of those approached us about that there is a market for – in some areas of the country call them generally gateway cities that there is demand and not enough supply for quality private education, and really in some ways not in some opening sport charter schools. So it creates a unique opportunity we think, it’s not necessarily as big as public charter schools that’s call it for the masses. But there are certain targeted like I said gateways cities where we think there is a growing appreciation and demand by middle and upper middle class demographic that are looking to deliver that kind of quality of education for the kids and there is a need for it. And we have the operators that we think can deliver that at a reasonable price and it’s a quality that we think will be valued by parents and have demonstrated that they can do that before. So we’re very excited about that opportunity.

David Brain

Analyst

These are all long transactions for known operators and Craig it’s as is often the case. Our experience in this space has led us to greater insight about the whole dynamics of space and great operators and this opportunity that there is that continue on unmet needs. So we’re excited about it. It is an expansion, but it’s based on a lot of experience in the space. Craig Melman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: What would be point for tuition?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Generally I think you’re talking about the low to mid 20s so if you look in and you saw in the picture that we’ve talked about, we’ve got some of the first facilities going with bases is going in Brooklyn and Brooklyn New York, where there is a lot of demand for quality private education but not – it’s a very difficult, difficult market for people to crack. So if you can deliver an education model that allows children and kids to advance to good quality colleges and deliver on the educational results, that price point is very attractive for people who are closed out to some of the premier private schools in the area. Craig Melman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Great. Thank you.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Anthony Polini with JP Morgan. Please proceed. Anthony Polini – JP Morgan: Yeah thanks. Good afternoon. Hi. You guys talked about your relationships and really your niche over time kind of driving higher returns than may be kind of going into the auction market. But if I look across the net lease REIT landscape, a lot of companies have spent a lot of time trying to drive down their capital cost to size. And in some instances it seems to be working. Just wondering how you think about the risk of seeing some of these other players entering into your space potentially making it more competitive particularly as it relates to the build-to-suit stuff which seems to be coming up more often in conversations with others?

David Brain

Analyst

Well Tony I think we’ve been driving down some more capital costs as well as we’ve climbed the credit curve and we continue to expand the portfolio as well. So we’re not out of that. We may not be increasing the size may be as fast, but just remarking on Mark talking about the 5.5% average debt that used to be 6% for a long time. So we continue to do that each offering we tend to make a debt mortgage tends to be better in those spread rate than we did before. So we are not out of that game, number one, number two is really I still think the areas that we play with the relationships that we have and the depth of knowledge and experience that will still be – We’re certainly understanding may be competition but we think we’re ready to meet that and ready to sustain our growth and our performance of the company and as indicated like the private schools, we continue to expand marginally. The attachment of investments so that we’re prepared to have you even greater opportunities that we can bring in and competitively if some people in our space I think we’ll prepare to meet them and still succeed.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

And Tony, it’s Greg. I think the other thing that I would point to especially as you pointed out in the build-to-suit market it is the equation of, are you just money or are you about the value added partner? And I think most of the theatre exhibition partners we have, see us as understanding exhibition and understanding what makes a good theatre location? And do we agree that? And do we come in and often as we do approximately we’re coming in to a market, and we’re actually working with the operator to decide the site what it should look like how many auditoriums things of that nature to where we are a much more value added partner than just simply a cost of capital. Anthony Polini – JP Morgan: Okay. Thank you. A follow up on the theatres, do you guys have these portfolio transaction I think in your for a while any update there?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Yeah it’s still we still anticipate that we will close that transaction. It’s in service for now as you know those things have a defined time and generally speaking our history as they take as much as time as they can because they are getting credits for assets under management during that period of time. So, I think our anticipation is it could be mid-to-late second quarter. Anthony Polini – JP Morgan: Okay. And then Mark, any prepayment ability or does it make any sense you’re after any debt that comes up to 2015-2016 now or in the next few quarters?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Well when you’re this far out, the prepayment penalties are pretty high and so it probably doesn’t make sense. We’ve taken things out six months in advance, but when you go two or three years you’re probably looking at a pretty severe penalty and probably it doesn’t make sense. And those debt rates aren’t that bad but so probably wouldn’t be doing that in 2014. Anthony Polini – JP Morgan: Okay. And then just last question on [inaudible] just remind us I know you guys were signing up for infrastructure spend there, but is that all after and if the license is awarded or is there anything you have to spend in the meantime?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Other than we’re dealing some planning dollars it’s kind of the dollars that we’ve said and met in the sense of giving the planned and everything ready for those to be actual hard dollars for construction would occur after the award of the license.

David Brain

Analyst

Word of an enhanced license, remember that they are already licensed it’s just a matter of whether they’re going to license upgrade. Anthony Polini – JP Morgan: Okay. Thank you.

David Brain

Analyst

Thank you, Tony.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Dan with FBR. Please proceed. Daniel Altscher – FBR Capital Markets: Hey thanks. Good afternoon. Appreciate the time. Mark I apologize if I missed it, but as I was going through the numbers there seems to be some new things going on with Series C preferred and I guess as diluted FFO and share count and AFFO being different. Can you just may be help I apologize again if I missed it, can you just help us explain some of the nuances there?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Yeah there is a calculation when you have these convertibles to whether they are in the money or not in the money and interesting we get a different answer among net income FFO per share and FFO as adjusted per share. That’s the cross point with respect to the 575 C convertible preferred so that’s the reason for different share counts for the difference in I think two of them is not in the money two of them and one of those it is in the money. So that is why you have the difference in share account. Daniel Altscher – FBR Capital Markets: Got it. Thanks for explaining that. And may be a little bit more higher level I guess the question is probably for David. You guys have done a really good job on the execution front and kind of delivered everything you said you’re going to do, but I imagined probably as you wrap up this year you may not be as thrilled on the multiple the execution might suggest. So what do you think going forward is going to help to get the multiple to look may be more like execution actually shows?

David Brain

Analyst

Well I appreciate that Dan. It’s definitely seems like a lagging series and we hope that lag is just about exhausted and that multiple is coming our way. It seems and feels that way we’re putting these together quarter after quarter year after year and so it’s hard to say I wish had the exact answer for you it isn’t exact science but it does feel like it’s coming our way and we’re increasingly getting more reflections of the like you just gave. Daniel Altscher – FBR Capital Markets: All right. We’ll see what 2014 brings I guess?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thank you. Daniel Altscher – FBR Capital Markets: Thanks.

David Brain

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Emmanuel Korchman with Citi. Please proceed. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: Hey good afternoon guys. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you guys mentioned that 60% of the investment spending would be build-to-suit in 2014 was that right?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

That’s correct. No, no I’m sorry. 60% of the spending that we have listed has already commenced and began construction so the actual number of build-to-suit projects I think that we believe is closer to 70%. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: So of that just help me – so of the acquisition guidance 70% has built-to-suits?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Yes that’s right. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: And then 115 of that’s going to be this theatre acquisition?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Correct.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

More like 120. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: So essentially there’s probably not more room left for any existing sort of property acquisitions?

David Brain

Analyst

Yeah that’s what we see right now but now that doesn’t mean as always that number can’t go throughout the year as we have more clarity on certain thing. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: But if it didn’t grow so it mostly build-to-suits and acquisition really know about?

David Brain

Analyst

That’s correct. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: And then, Mark may be you can sort of follow up on a similar build-to-suit comment. Of the build-to-suits completed in 2013, I guess how much income has been reflected and should we think about hitting in ‘14 that hasn’t hit in ‘13 so the –

Mark Peterson

Analyst

So here’s the thing so we have a new schedule that helps you out with that which is on the page 20 of the supplemental. And what it details is two things number one everything we have in process that’s commence as of 12/31 sort of starts with our developments and process and it shows you at the top of the schedule we do this for both owned build-to-suits and those we are financing via mortgage and we show the spending how the spending is going to take place and the second part of the schedule shows for those own build-to-suits when those go in service. So when those go in service that’s when the full cap rate kicks in that we’re capitalizing cap rate as we’re building as we’re spending the money and the in service estimates shown in the middle of page. As far as what those rates are, we’ve indicated ranges those cap rates reach the segment they tend to kind of all-around nine cap or so ranges and education can get a little higher than that on a gap basis than the other two sectors because they tend to be more straight lined. But you can get a sense of projects that we are in process at the end of the year, how those will go into service by looking at the schedule. On the mortgage front, which is the bottom of schedule those in effect earn the full cap rate as you spend it so little in-service such as the spending estimates and that’s kind of the correlate with the interest earnings that you’re going to get on those projects. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: And is there a similar to and thank you for that schedule, is there a similar for 4Q ‘13 that we need to think about a sort of in service either mid ‘13 or 4Q ‘13 that’s not being fully reflected in the 4Q ‘13 result?

David Brain

Analyst

Well unless you fully understand, this starts with everything in service as of December ‘14 that not everything in service sorry everything in process as of December Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: No I got that. I’m saying stuff that was delivered so it’s no longer underdevelopment right? So those in service but it wasn’t in service for the entire 4Q?

David Brain

Analyst

Yeah you get an annualization effect

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

We haven’t broken out what started mid fourth quarter to know what the annualization is.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

None of these have started any earnings in ‘13 because they are still in process they are all being capitalized.

David Brain

Analyst

No but what I hear you saying mainly is do we have a chart for saying what is the things that came on for the fourth quarter that will have an annualization Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: That’s right.

David Brain

Analyst

No, we don’t that. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: Do you have something sort of would be?

David Brain

Analyst

I don’t have it’s inherited in our guidance.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

As time goes along, you’ll have that as the spend. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: Sure. I’m just wondering if there is someone out that you’re not giving sort of credit for in 1Q ‘14 because we have

David Brain

Analyst

Let us take a look at that and we’ll get back with you. Emmanuel Korchman – Citi: Thanks guys.

David Brain

Analyst

Thank you.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Rich Moore with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: Hey guys good afternoon. The occupancy on the entertainment portfolio was down very slightly but it was down 98% versus 99% and the theatres were 100% leased. I’m curious what is down exactly?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

We also in our entertainment segment is where our PRC retail centers are. So we have small shop space and some other things that we are either had some vacancy or is becoming or had some roll over and we’re not leased up yet. But it’s generally in those retail type centers. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: And the progress on that Greg, I guess is you is normal?

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

It’s normal that’s kind of where – if you look we used to break it out generally our ERCs were running 95% 96% it’s consistent with that and so this is not out of line with what we’ve seen historically. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: Okay I got you. Thanks. Then on the theatres looking at your explorations on your theatres and you’re all done for this year and then you have a handful in each of the next three years. And then you had a big chunk I think 18 something like that in 2018 and I’m curious about the whole dynamic around these theatre explorations I mean first of all, do they just all sort of exercise their options or are you trying to re-lease them ahead of time in other words? Go ahead.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

They had options and so historically what we’ve seen is it’s about a 75% that just exercise their options and we go on. And sometimes when we are downsizing or some of the things that you see we’ve been talking about if they wanted to change the amenity package and convert these to format or the format then we’re generally involved in some level discussion do they want additional capital or are we going to get expected to pay as we go in there. So we’re talking about renegotiating the lease. And generally you’ve seen that in some of those that instead of a five year renewal we’ve bumped them out 10 or longer years. That’s when we’re recutting and generally remodeling or amenity enhancement package. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: Okay. So they do that at the end of lease typically as when they’ll start asking for the changes for the

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Yeah typically or it bodes well good or bad what we’ve seen is this enhanced amenity package really come over the last couple of years. What we’ve seen and I’ll use AMC as an example. AMC if they wanting to change a package on an existing theatre, chances are they’ll spend their own money and do it. And just go ahead and create the conversion as per approval and spend their own money on it. If we’re toward the end and talk about additional capital from us and what the rightsizing of the theatre should be Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: The reason I ask all this is I’m curious it doesn’t sound like you expect as you get into these heavier lease maturity sort of years, that you’re going to have a big spander a big strategic sort of initiative that you got to address a whole lot of theatres wanting to do different things.

David Brain

Analyst

No and in fact 18 year one of those is a 10 theatre master lease so it looks bulky in that but it’s generally our expectation with those will roll in a group so it’s not as – it looked more cumbersome than it is bulky in that year but no we don’t expect that there is. And generally when we’re doing this even these amenity changes we’re talking somewhere 2 million to 4 million so it’s not a huge capital investments and we’re getting paid on that money. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: Yeah okay. I get it. And then on the page 20 thank you guys very much, that’s extremely helpful. Do you have by the way, the coverage ratios or can you give us rough coverage metric for different property types?

David Brain

Analyst

Sure I think our theatre portfolio as we’ve said has been around the it may trend up a little bit this year because we were slightly up. Overall if you recall our ski portfolio last year returned to normalization about 1.7 I would tell you that number is going to be appears to be trending higher nice baby clothes are back to the 2.0 level. We’ll see how February and early March plays out. Our school portfolio is kind of in line with what we’ve said 1.5 to 1.7 and our other recreation aspect our TopGolf high twos or over three. So overall real, real consistent and how they’ve been performing year after year. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: Okay good. Thank you. And then the last thing the mortgages market the one away it looked like though there were two I’m guessing they were associated with the buyout of the joint venture?

David Brain

Analyst

Yeah. We had loaned some money to those projects to those debt maturities some of anticipation effect, will be taken out this interest and we took out the remaining interest in this quarter. Richard Moore – RBC Capital Markets: Great. Very good. Thank you guys.

David Brain

Analyst

Thank you.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We have no further questions. I would now like to turn the conference back over to David Brain for closing remarks. Please proceed.

David Brain

Analyst

Thank you very much. Again I’ll thank you all for joining us this quarter. We always look forward to reporting to you and we look forward to entertaining your questions and speaking with you if you’d like to contact directly. Thank you again. We’ll see you next quarter.

Gregory Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.